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Report has Amon ready to go with an "Assess" ... But Ladey in his interview says his recovery has been slower than expected and is still a couple of weeks off!

Must have started "signaling" again!!!
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OneGreatClub said:
Yes, it's weird. Has having almost nil injuries been our undoing in that Ken refuses to bring anyone untried in?
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Absolutely, his favourites are all available so they get selected.

Favourites
Boak, SPP, Ryder, Broadbent, Ebert, Hartlett, Gray, Trengove, Wines, Clurey, Wingard, Polec, Dixon, Impey, Pittard, Byrne-Jones, Hombsch, Westhoff, Jonas, S.Gray

Revolving Door players
Neade, Young, Amon, Toumpas, White, Eddy, Johnson, Ah Chee, Houston

Not trusted
Monfries, Marshall, Frampton, Lobbe, Austin, Bonner, Drew, Atley, Howard, Snelling, Palmer, Ladhams, Lienert, Hewett, Irra, Krakouer.
 
PatientMental said:
Absolutely, his favourites are all available so they get selected.

Favourites
Boak, SPP, Ryder, Broadbent, Ebert, Hartlett, Gray, Trengove, Wines, Clurey, Wingard, Polec, Dixon, Impey, Pittard, Byrne-Jones, Hombsch, Westhoff, Jonas, S.Gray

Revolving Door players
Neade, Young, Amon, Toumpas, White, Eddy, Johnson, Ah Chee, Houston

Not trusted
Monfries, Marshall, Frampton, Lobbe, Austin, Bonner, Drew, Atley, Howard, Snelling, Palmer, Ladhams, Lienert, Hewett, Irra, Krakouer.
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Can we add Ken to the non trust section?
 
PatientMental said:
Absolutely, his favourites are all available so they get selected.

Favourites
Boak, SPP, Ryder, Broadbent, Ebert, Hartlett, Gray, Trengove, Wines, Clurey, Wingard, Polec, Dixon, Impey, Pittard, Byrne-Jones, Hombsch, Westhoff, Jonas, S.Gray

Revolving Door players
Neade, Young, Amon, Toumpas, White, Eddy, Johnson, Ah Chee, Houston

Not trusted
Monfries, Marshall, Frampton, Lobbe, Austin, Bonner, Drew, Atley, Howard, Snelling, Palmer, Ladhams, Lienert, Hewett, Irra, Krakouer.
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Compared to Bigfooty's version

Favourites:
SPP, Ryder, Ebert, Gray*, Wines, Clurey, Wingard, Polec*, Dixon, Hombsch, Jonas*, Houston

Fringe:
Boak, Broadbent, Monfries, Hartlett, Trengove, Frampton, Austin, Bonner, Drew, Atley, Howard, Palmer, Impey, Pittard, Byrne-Jones, Westhoff, S.Gray, Neade, Young, Amon, Toumpas, White, Eddy, Johnson, Ah Chee, Krakouer

Not Trusted:
Marshall, Lobbe, Snelling, Ladhams, Lienert, Hewett, Irra

*maybe
 

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According to Nathan Bassett in his presser, Todd Marshall has concussion and is unlikely to play sanfl this week.
 
Two weeks in a row now, the coaching/medical staff have taken gambles.

In the Nth game, Ryder obviously pulled up lame after a marking contest in 3rd quarter with the game iced. Staff still pushed him back out on the ground, I stand behind the bench and you could see straight away he wasn't right. He still didn't look 100% in the Melb game, didn't look to be jumping all over Gawn.

Against Melb, blind freddy could see the damage Chad did. The video wasclear, you don't come back from that. Once again (at least this time the game was in the balance), he goes back on the ground to start the 4th, only to be forced off the ground after the first contest.

You will hear "we spoke to player and he was keen to go back out", OK, great. So whats the point of having coaching/medical staff. We just don't know now, we may have a lame Ryder and Chad heading into the finals. Well done.

And now we hear "we will take no risks with Chad", bit late for that.
 
nomisg said:
Two weeks in a row now, the coaching/medical staff have taken gambles.

In the Nth game, Ryder obviously pulled up lame after a marking contest in 3rd quarter with the game iced. Staff still pushed him back out on the ground, I stand behind the bench and you could see straight away he wasn't right. He still didn't look 100% in the Melb game, didn't look to be jumping all over Gawn.

Against Melb, blind freddy could see the damage Chad did. The video wasclear, you don't come back from that. Once again (at least this time the game was in the balance), he goes back on the ground to start the 4th, only to be forced off the ground after the first contest.

You will hear "we spoke to player and he was keen to go back out", OK, great. So whats the point of having coaching/medical staff. We just don't know now, we may have a lame Ryder and Chad heading into the finals. Well done.

And now we hear "we will take no risks with Chad", bit late for that.
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It can be hard to gauge with injuries like this. As you've said, you're rarely going to get good self reporting from the player themselves who is always going to be keen to go back onto the field if they can. You don't have the ability to scan the injury in real time at the ground. And sometimes swelling won't appear until after the player has cooled down. In the heat of an important game with the result on the line, these are hard judgment calls.
 
TeeKray said:
It can be hard to gauge with injuries like this. As you've said, you're rarely going to get good self reporting from the player themselves who is always going to be keen to go back onto the field if they can. You don't have the ability to scan the injury in real time at the ground. And sometimes swelling won't appear until after the player has cooled down. In the heat of an important game with the result on the line, these are hard judgment calls.
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Agree with everything you have said,
But...
Ryder : game was over
Chad : Video was clear and they had 10+ minutes to have a look at that. Yes, heat of the moment stuff, but full-time medical staff surely have time to have a look at the video. Ligament damage only gets worse if you strain it further. He could have been out a week, now likely out 2-4.

Alas
 
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