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Can anyone cut and paste the article on Trevor Nisbett in today’s West Australian?

Nizzy has come out today. Sounds as though schisms are starting to appear between clubs. Struggling clubs want deep cuts to stay afloat and wealthy clubs are concerned about the impact that will have on the competition.



Coronavirus crackdown: West Coast Eagles boss Trevor Nisbett says list cuts could be disaster
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Steve ButlerThe West Australian
Saturday, 18 April 2020 4:00AM
Steve Butler

West Coast chief executive Trevor Nisbett fears that dramatic cuts to staff and player numbers because of the coronavirus crisis will turn the AFL back into a semi-professional slog.
Nisbett, part of the AFL’s special working group guiding football’s financial fightback, said any more than the suggested $3 million cut to football department spending — down from $9.7 million a year — could have devastating consequences for the league’s brand.
And a list-size cut to 35 players from 44 would be unworkable in the current structure and would put an end to AFL clubs having State league teams, such as the Eagles in the WAFL. It is already unlikely West Coast would be able to pay its $800,000 annual WAFL requirement as the club deals with the harsh financial fall-out from the coronavirus-led lockdown.
“This is a professional league and we need to keep it professional,” Nisbett said bluntly.
“We know there has to be cuts in finance, but if it goes lower than $6.7 million there is going to be so much trauma in the football departments because it will mean a lot of people may have to go.”
Nisbett said the impact of extra coaches, particularly in player development, had been underestimated. He believed some of the game’s greatest recent stories, such as West Coast pair Tim Kelly and Liam Ryan and Richmond’s Marlion Pickett and Sydney Stack, would never have emerged if clubs did not have the development coaches entrusted to bring “speculation” players through the system.
“They have been wonderful stories for footy and wonderful for those families and those kids,” he said.
“Yet what we’re saying is we’re not going to be able to do that any more because you’re only going to be allowed to have 35 players. I think it’s wrong and the wrong way to go. It needs to be staggered over a few years if we are going to reduce lists.”
Nisbett also pointed out that players had already agreed to a 50 per cent reduction for two months, but believed they would be prepared to negotiate further if it meant keeping teammates on club lists and coaches in football department jobs.
He said list sizes any smaller than 38 players would be damaging for the game’s standard, as would trying to top up lists with players from second-tier competitions who were not being trained at AFL level.
Nisbett harked back to 1989 when he first joined West Coast and the damage caused to the team because of the 35-player list size. They had only 18 fit players for the final game of the 1989 season when they were belted by Collingwood by 49 points at Victoria Park.
“You saw what a disaster that was in the Eagles’ first three years ... an absolute disaster,” he said.
“This needs to be given very careful thought before we make these changes.
 
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Makes sense from Nissys POV. We have a competitive advantage of success and profit that attracts the best people.

The struggling clubs want to go back to 2 coaches and a physio and player smoke durries at half time.

I posted in the other thread that the club is really positioning itself for a fight on finances moving forward.

The AFL has broken in to working groups, Nisbett and Brian Cook are on the finances subcomittee which will explore and deisgn potential footy department structures and explore what the soft cap should look like moving forward.

Apparently in 2018 Collingwood and Richmond were trying to get welfare spending to not count in the soft cap, and West Coast felt it should be included as the cap was large enough.

However, things have significantly shifted since then. The posturing of the club has changed significantly and apparently West Coast is strongly arguing that the cap can not under any circumstances be a hard cap, and should not be under 6.7.

This came through loud and clear in a radio interview that Simmo did with SEN last week. He was very strongly of the opinion that less coaches, means a less overall product and the clubs being less positioned to take risks to support players who may extra support when first entering the system.
 

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Nizzy has come out today. Sounds as though schisms are starting to appear between clubs. Struggling clubs want deep cuts to stay afloat and wealthy clubs are concerned about the impact that will have on the competition.
Lol - of course we can afford the $800k WAFL moving forward. Our revenue isnt going to drop from this and we dont have to go into debt to survive.

The big clubs are sounding keen to get their competitive advantage back due to having more cash and profitability. I was never convinced it was that much of an advantage, but might as well push for it.

He has a very valid point about list sizes. He and cook both saw the impact of that (Cook used to work for us at the time). I doubt that gets up, players association won't like it one bit. It would kill depth too, lose a few players in one position in the ground and it would be season over.
 
Lol - of course we can afford the $800k WAFL moving forward. Our revenue isnt going to drop from this and we dont have to go into debt to survive.

The big clubs are sounding keen to get their competitive advantage back due to having more cash and profitability. I was never convinced it was that much of an advantage, but might as well push for it.

He has a very valid point about list sizes. He and cook both saw the impact of that (Cook used to work for us at the time). I doubt that gets up, players association won't like it one bit. It would kill depth too, lose a few players in one position in the ground and it would be season over.
If they want to get player numbers down, they should start with getting club numbers down.
 
Lol - of course we can afford the $800k WAFL moving forward. Our revenue isnt going to drop from this and we dont have to go into debt to survive.

The big clubs are sounding keen to get their competitive advantage back due to having more cash and profitability. I was never convinced it was that much of an advantage, but might as well push for it.

He has a very valid point about list sizes. He and cook both saw the impact of that (Cook used to work for us at the time). I doubt that gets up, players association won't like it one bit. It would kill depth too, lose a few players in one position in the ground and it would be season over.

Many clubs can not afford it, what gives?
 
Many clubs can not afford it, what gives?
I think it's a problem for clubs who have to take the debt from the AFL. They are now going to pay interest (admittedly at a low rate) and need to pay back the principle within a certain amount of time. I'm not sure what loan term they have been given, but I think it's only a few years.

I'm not sure what they are going to do instead of their state-league teams. For example, the Blues pulled the pin on the Northern Bullants, are they going to align with another VFL club next year?
 
I think it's a problem for clubs who have to take the debt from the AFL. They are now going to pay interest (admittedly at a low rate) and need to pay back the principle within a certain amount of time. I'm not sure what loan term they have been given, but I think it's only a few years.

I'm not sure what they are going to do instead of their state-league teams. For example, the Blues pulled the pin on the Northern Bullants, are they going to align with another VFL club next year?

I posted this letter to Freo members from Simon Garlick:
There is some detail over the financial arrangement/covenant in this release by Freo.
I'll take it in tomorrow:

How it plays out is anyones guess, the Eagles are fine, but the clubs needing money will have to meet the conditions of the AFL line of credit, the AFL being mums purse are gone.
 
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I think it's a problem for clubs who have to take the debt from the AFL. They are now going to pay interest (admittedly at a low rate) and need to pay back the principle within a certain amount of time. I'm not sure what loan term they have been given, but I think it's only a few years.

I'm not sure what they are going to do instead of their state-league teams. For example, the Blues pulled the pin on the Northern Bullants, are they going to align with another VFL club next year?

There is no term of the loan.

The AFL has written in to the agreement that the amount owed to the AFL is subordinate to clubs other outstanding debt. Basically, the clubs, such as Carlton (3m in debt) and St Kilda (about 6m) are able to prioritise their debt to other creditors and are not required to pay the AFL debt until a time the board of the club determines they are in a position to pay it off, at an interest rate of 3.3 per cent from 1 November. The inclusion of that clause in to the agreement was essential to ensure that clubs were liable for trading while insolvent.

In terms of the Blues, it is thought that move was rather cynical. If and when the VFL starts up again, Carlton will be provided with their own standalone team.
 
There is no term of the loan.

The AFL has written in to the agreement that the amount owed to the AFL is subordinate to clubs other outstanding debt. Basically, the clubs, such as Carlton (3m in debt) and St Kilda (about 6m) are able to prioritise their debt to other creditors and are not required to pay the AFL debt until a time the board of the club determines they are in a position to pay it off, at an interest rate of 3.3 per cent from 1 November. The inclusion of that clause in to the agreement was essential to ensure that clubs were liable for trading while insolvent.

In terms of the Blues, it is thought that move was rather cynical. If and when the VFL starts up again, Carlton will be provided with their own standalone team.

Have you a link on club debt & priority?
 
Mick really seems to be standing up for the Eagles a lot these days:

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Love Malthouse on Grandstand. Really try and give him a listen most mornings before I drive to my own footy.
He makes a lot of sense when he talks about the National competition, something that pretty much every journalist, explayers and commentator forget that is based in that south east corner of the country.
 

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The West has a good article on Petch and how he would love to stay with us. Like many, I have sometimes been a bit hard on Petch for his lack of polish in finishing his work, but he looks to have come a long way lately and I liked some of his work with TK.

Also - I think we have done a great job at keeping our interstate recruits, over the last decade or so, the last big name we lost to go home factor was probably Sam Mitchell Judd

West Coast forward Jack Petruccelle doesn’t see himself leaving WA anytime soon despite being off-contract at season’s end
Mitchell WoodcockThe West Australian
Thursday, 23 April 2020 1:25PM


West Coast speedster Jack Petruccelle doesn’t see himself returning to Victoria despite being out of contract at the end of the season.
AFL clubs cannot negotiate or sign players during the season’s postponement, leaving out-of-contract players like Petruccelle in limbo regarding their future beyond 2020.
West Coast have 21 players un-contracted beyond the year, including stalwarts Josh Kennedy, Shannon Hurn, Lewis Jetta and Will Schofield as well as Jake Waterman, Liam Ryan and Nathan Vardy.
Petruccelle, 21, considers WA home after almost three years at the Eagles and is arguably one of the club’s priority signings after a breakout season last year when kicked 21 goals in 20 games.
The Victorian stayed in Perth during isolation and admitted it was difficult early to make the transition across the Nullarbor, but he was now comfortable in his adopted State.
“Early days in my first year I was a bit, I wouldn’t say homesick, but I guess the normal thing that kids move away from their parents are feeling,” Petruccelle told SportFM.
“Missing the family and the friends more than anything, but in my second year and this year I’ve made it a home here. You make friends here, got a girlfriend here.
“And all the boys, you get to know them more and more, it’s your family and your home here. I love it here and I don’t see myself going back soon.”
Jack Petruccelle is one of the club’s brigtest young prospects.

Petruccelle was almost lost to football, with the forward admitting basketball was his number one sport until he was in his mid-teens.
Having been a part of the AIS Academy and playing in national championships, Petruccelle was hoping for a hoops career before turning to football, a decision he wishes he had made earlier.
“Football was never the number one for me, basketball was always number one,” he said.
“Looking back now I think I was pretty silly.
“The pathway in footy in Australia is just so much better.
“I think it was a very silly decision by myself, taking basketball as far as I did just because the pathways for basketball is so much harder and I am probably a bit undersized for basketball.
“I did love basketball and I love playing basketball, but I just wish I played footy throughout and I chose the footy pathway when I was 15, 16 rather than putting it on the back seat for a bit.”
Petruccelle acknowledged the training they were doing now was not ideal, but was confident it would keep the Eagles fit for a return to the club in the coming months.
“We’ve got pretty professional programs in place,” he said.
“Obviously it hurts not having a game to keep us fit, but I think these programs are put in place to keep us accountable and keep the legs ticking over.”
 
The West has a good article on Petch and how he would love to stay with us. Like many, I have sometimes been a bit hard on Petch for his lack of polish in finishing his work, but he looks to have come a long way lately and I liked some of his work with TK.

Also - I think we have done a great job at keeping our interstate recruits, over the last decade or so, the last big name we lost to go home factor was probably Sam Mitchell Judd

Lets see when he gets a regular spot & closer to the 80-100 game mark.
 
The West has a good article on Petch and how he would love to stay with us. Like many, I have sometimes been a bit hard on Petch for his lack of polish in finishing his work, but he looks to have come a long way lately and I liked some of his work with TK.

Also - I think we have done a great job at keeping our interstate recruits, over the last decade or so, the last big name we lost to go home factor was probably Sam Mitchell Judd

Missed 3-4 years of development playing baskeyball b/w 13-16 years.

Got plenty of upside. Won't see his best until 25/26 IMO.
 

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