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West Coast (73) v Geelong (64)

Titus O'Reily

It’s taken months, but we finally got a great game of footy.

For a few moments I even forgot the hellscape that is 2020 and just enjoyed watching a game.

It was wonderful.

Geelong showed that even with some key outs, they still have a fighting spirit that would make any club jealous.

With the Eagles looking like one of the favourites for the Premierships, the Cats ignored that script and were almost four goals up in the second half, when things started to slowly turn, and then it was on.

You could tell there was a real crowd there because the booing was back, as the fourth quarter became a real classic, despite the umpires still enforcing the holding the ball rule by a raffle method.

Seeing both side crash in whenever the ball was on the ground showed our game can still be great, especially when the umpires decide they don’t need to be a key part of the spectacle.

In the end, the Eagles just had the talent, but Geelong showed that effort is still more important than anything else people talk about in footy.
 


Awesome thread.


Interesting, aligns with my own observations this year.

Teams are being more cautious in their initial ball movement in response to the success of Richmond-style tactics based upon turnover conversion. Once a passage forward is identified however, the ball is actually moving further and faster in an effort to beat the shifting defence.

Reckon the current trend will moderate as clubs identify effective systems to get the ball out of defence and keep it moving quickly - with those successful systems invariably becoming copied across the competition.
 

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I'm feeling a little bit dirty, .... again!

First time was when I couldn't decide whether I was barracking for Fremantle or against Collingwood, and actually enjoyed their game.

Then to totally confuse me, I went and agreed with Robbo on 360!

It should have been a much bigger Collingwood fine (and with none of it suspended) because it was a second breach of Covid-hub rules.(hello Steele)
I wonder how it would have gone down if it was not a big Victorian club?
Didn't an assistant coach at one of the SA clubs get a 6 weeks suspension?
 
Good article on the ABC today about Nic Nat and how rucks are judged on the field.
 
Good article on the ABC today about Nic Nat and how rucks are judged on the field.
Damn I started reading and thought it was finally an objective analysis of NN’s impact

Then realised it’s written by a WC fan and bigfooty poster smh

Great article though
 

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I don't mind this idea from The Age.



A grand solution to the finale

Melbourne is obsessed with whether or not the grand final will be played at the MCG. It won't be. The real question is where it will be played. Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide and Sydney all have made claims.
Queensland has given the AFL refuge. That gives Brisbane the high moral ground. But it doesn't win the argument outright. Off-shoring has worked for Queensland as well as for the AFL, financially and in terms of prestige. It's been good business for both parties, but there was no wink and nudge.
Perth and Adelaide are both footy cities, with 50,000-capacity footy grounds. You only had to tune into the games at Optus Stadium and the Adelaide Oval on the weekend to remember what a difference even a portion of a real footy crowd can make.

Sydney's in the running because when it comes to putting one over Melbourne, Sydney's always in the running. It has a ground, and sometimes weeds it.
Since no one city has overpowering claims, why not give it to the team with the greatest claim? Why not award the grand final to the highest-ranked of the two grand finalists, or the minor premier?

If this confers an advantage, is it not merely the advantage Victorian clubs always have enjoyed in reverse? Optus Stadium and Adelaide Oval made West Coast and Port Adelaide even more confronting for opponents on the weekend.
Do you think it was any different at the MCG in each of the last eight grand finals when non-Victorian teams took on Melbourne opposition?
The beauty in this solution is that as things stand, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide and Sydney are all home to teams that could finish on top. If a Victorian team was to emerge in first place, it could take its choice of grand final venue. Everyone has a ticket in the raffle.
The upfront argument against it will be that it is not practical. In a normal year, the MCG prepares for the grand final for weeks. But this is not a normal year.

Once, it was beyond the AFL's wherewithal to move even a single game. It was the corporates, you see. This year, it has moved the whole competition, again and again, shape-shifting endlessly. The buzzword is "agile".
This season as never before, necessity has been the mother of invention. The entire league is a guinea pig. The AFL has experimented so freely it might yet accidentally stumble on a vaccine for COVID-19.
Some of the modifications may stay with us - shorter quarters, for instance.
And some variations will be once-offs. The grand final is one. A contract guarantees that for decades hence, it will be at the MCG. Pandemic permitting, tradition and rites will be restored, Melbourne's dignity, too, for those who somehow think this is more a sovereign issue than a footy matter.

What has been established for sure this weird season, what the network executives have long known: AFL is like every other sport a TV game.For fans, it hasn't much mattered where a game was on, only that it was on.
The absence of fans has been noticeable. The absence of TV would have been more noticeable. It would have been total.
In that context, it doesn't really matter where the grand final is played. But with political, historical and technical considerations out of the way, it makes sense to go with a footy answer.
I didn't come down in the last shower (which is right now everywhere AFL footy is being played). I know it will come down not to the top rung, but the bottom line.

If so, is it too much to ask for somewhere where it won't rain?
 
On 360 last night, Whately was saying the sports minister from Qld was saying they would still more than likely
have crowd restrictions for a GF if played there.

Whately is saying a crowd of around 18 000 wouldn't be a great look for a GF.
He's of the opinion that if the WA or SA government promised a full house (no restrictions),
there's a good chance they will get it.

He said only the GF, not all of the finals.

Thought it was interesting.
 
We have evidence that a half full stadium still produces a great atmosphere.

The benefit of COVID and border restrictions is - a lot of the tickets that normally go to players / sponsors / AFL members / afl exec etc / non-competing teams - won't be needed

If we could get 60000 - would produce a great spectacle
 

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Jake Niall, in The Age today, said that one of the options the AFL is considering is very similar to the article a couple of posts above. Apparently, the higher seed of each final matchup could have their choice of the current venues.

They did point out that the GF could not be held in Perth under the current border restrictions, unless there was a bye before the GF, which is probably unlikely when they want to end the season ASAP. But WC could choose the Adelaide Oval, for example.
 
Jake Niall, in The Age today, said that one of the options the AFL is considering is very similar to the article a couple of posts above. Apparently, the higher seed of each final matchup could have their choice of the current venues.

They did point out that the GF could not be held in Perth under the current border restrictions, unless there was a bye before the GF, which is probably unlikely when they want to end the season ASAP. But WC could choose the Adelaide Oval, for example.
In his article did he mention that, because the govt is allowing teams to play echother in quarantine, both teams could fly in to Perth and play straight away? As they'd both be in quarantine, they wouldn't have to hang around for 2 weeks before playing.
 

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