Is match/ spot fixing too deeply embedded in cricket to change?

[Parquet Court]

match fixing, a dirty word in cricketing circles. It took a bit of a back seat in the time after the Warne/ Waugh incident in which they provided details about the conditions to an indian bookmaker until Hansie Cronje....

Hansie Cronje was the biggest news story to hit cricket in some time and the inquiry into that revealed wide spread deceit and treachery from not only south african cricketers. Akram, Azzarhuddin, Mushtaq Ahmed, Gibbs and Boje are all investigated and had charges pressed against them.

we now move into more recent years with the spot fixing "no-ball" incident with Amir and Asif in England receiving jail time.

And in the past 12 months, there have been reports of the Banlgadeshi and IPL being rife with match/ spot fixing...players in IPL teams were claiming to have been approached to fix small facets of the game

It seems the problem (using the broadest brush i have ever laid eyes on) seems to be confined to the Asian cricketing nations.

Is the problem to far gone to rectify? how long until cricket games results are questioned frequently? how can the issue be resolved?

Thoughts?

 

[Belnakor]

it will continue to be an issue when members of opposite teams are getting paid grossly disproportionate amounts for playing in the same game. It ultimately means one teams incentive to fix the game is much much higher than the others.

in the IPL the guys who got nailed for spot fixing were the fringe guys. The reality is the guys earning 100k a match are only going to touch fixing if the pay off isb't huge, and the bookies don't have that kind of coin.

 

[Wallaby]

If you don't think a similar thing happens in almost every professional sport (check out some of the minor tennis tournaments, and their history of gambling investigations), you need a reality check.
It is not a cricket problem - it is a gambling problem.

 

[Tasmaniac]

Corruption is common in india.

India dominates cricket.

Therefore there is, and will always be, a lot of corruption in cricket moving forwards.

(Not that there would have been zero corruption before India took over, but even then most of it would have originated from the Asian bookies).

 

[Tex_21]

All I want to know is how I can get in on the match fixing and make some cash.

 

[Parquet Court]

walk up to an indian bloke wearing a trench coat outside a stadium.

tennins would have to be up there with cricket as one of the easiest sports to fix, individual performances have massive influences on results, tennis being obvious for that.

should betting companies be allowed to have spot fixing rights? why should people be able to bet on whether so and so will bowl a no ball or will a boundary be hit in the first over...

 

[PrideOf]

Corruption is common in india.

India dominates cricket.

There's the argument right there.

 

[Miqar_Baqfhied]

At least the ICC is trying to so something to stamp it out.

Look at the 'beautiful' game of soccer - it is completely riddled with corruption and greed. Match fixing runs riot, amongst other things...all the way to the top - Seph Blatter himself. Shit sport.

 

[courtjester]

It's the reason I play local cricket in the 3rd grade. No corruption.

 

[Chops_a_must]

it will continue to be an issue when members of opposite teams are getting paid grossly disproportionate amounts for playing in the same game. It ultimately means one teams incentive to fix the game is much much higher than the others.

This is on the money. When you look at how much Cronje was making - in the order of 30k a year - you can see why he took the cash.

It's the reason I play local cricket in the 3rd grade. No corruption.

Until you come across teams packed with Asians in self umpired games. They're a disgrace.

It leads one to suspect that cheating and suspect behaviour is actually a cultural problem in the subcontinent.

 

[Phone]

well yeah, corruption is usually a problem in developing nations. The whole betting being illegal thing makes it harder for it be fought.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

walk up to an indian bloke wearing a trench coat outside a stadium.

tennins would have to be up there with cricket as one of the easiest sports to fix, individual performances have massive influences on results, tennis being obvious for that.

should betting companies be allowed to have spot fixing rights? why should people be able to bet on whether so and so will bowl a no ball or will a boundary be hit in the first over...

The big problem is that where most of the corruption appears to eminate from, nobody has the rights. Gambling is illegal, people are not allowed to bet on the game, spot bets or otherwise.
This means only the criminal element take bets, with no oversight. Once they are already on the wrong side of the law, its not that big a stretch to attempt to move the odds further in their favour.

That doesn't mean there is no corruption here, but here it is more likely to be orchestrated by unscrupulous punters than unscrupulous bookies. Where gambling is illegal, its likely to be done by both sides of the betting market.

 

[Hotdees]

Shakib Al Hasan banned from all cricket for 2 years with 12 months suspended.

 

[Milang_Panthers]

Shakib Al Hasan banned from all cricket for 2 years with 12 months suspended.

What's the go with this? All I've heard is that he failed to report approaches from bookmakers.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Looks like a harsh penalty if it’s just for failing to report.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Cricket definitely has more integrity than the AFL on this issue. Though cricket has already been tarnished while the AFL try to cover up and preserve a fake image of no spot fixing happening in their sport.

 

[ioppolo]

2 years/12 months for failure to report seems harsh, The Speaker you know your cricket stuff, maybe you can shed some light?

 

[deanc]

Cricket definitely has more integrity than the AFL on this issue. Though cricket has already been tarnished while the AFL try to cover up and preserve a fake image of no spot fixing happening in their sport.

Not sure I understand your comment? How do you 'spot fix' an AFL player?

 

[Wallaby]

Not sure I understand your comment? How do you 'spot fix' an AFL player?

Individual stats. A player can easily manipulate his number of possessions (handballs instead of kicks etc), or give a way a free to his opponent in the first 30 seconds of the game ('first goal' - something similar was done in the NRL a few years ago) without obviously affecting the final score.

 

[Belnakor]

2 years/12 months for failure to report seems harsh, The Speaker you know your cricket stuff, maybe you can shed some light?

if you see what the texts were it seems suppppper sus

 

[Truckosaurus]

Yeah, it may just be they didn't have quite enough evidence to ban for an actual fix so went for the harsher sentence on the charge that they could prove.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Money ruins everything.

 

[Hamingja]

What did he get paid to play IPL? Surely the one Bangladeshi that didn't need to fix.

 

[The Speaker]

2 years/12 months for failure to report seems harsh, The Speaker you know your cricket stuff, maybe you can shed some light?

Lots of conspiracy theories flying around.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Good rundown of the evidence if anyone's looking:

'Do we work in this or I wait til the IPL' - Bookie to Shakib

He had three WhatsApp chats with a bookie - in November 2017, January 2018 and April 2018

www.espncricinfo.com