Is Ross Gibbs the Aussie Rules equivalent of Damir Dokic?

[DynamoUltra]

So he thinks Adelaide are just going to tank in 2007 to snare his son? He has to be kidding.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

stop upsetting Toots with all this nasty, reality hocus pocus.

Alas, poor Crow-mo. The argument for the negative has moved from "No he didn't!" to "Well why shouldn't he?"

 

[afc9798]

No afc9798 made the claim that Ross Gibbs does not presume to speak for his son and is not trying to influence which club he goes to. I'm simply quoting Ross Gibbs doing exactly that.

Just because he expresses his opinions and has a well founded and well known hatred for Port, doesn't mean that he is interfering in the process. If I was a Glenelg player, I wouldn't want my son playing for Port, just as Graham Cornes didn't want his sons playing for Port either. He has accepted the reality of the AFL competition, just as Ross Gibbs will if this ever occurs.

If you were an ex-Port Adelaide player, would you want your son playing for the Crows? Would you try and do something if you thought you could? Of course you would and if it didn't work out, then you would accept the situation and move on.

The reality is that Bryce will not end up at Port or the Crows unless some unexpected trade occurs and that is highly unlikely. Toots you are a disappointment as despite your hyperbole and over the top attitude at times, I at least thought you had a skerrick of intelligence and reality....apparently not.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Just because he expresses his opinions....

Toots you are a disappointment as despite your hyperbole and over the top attitude at times, I at least thought you had a skerrick of intelligence and reality....apparently not.

I've found you to be a sensible person too, and I'm pretty confident that this is another one of your tongue in cheek rants. A pretty good one too with the hand on heart approach done very convincingly.

You'd have to acknowledge though that stating that "no son of mine will ever play for Port" is a little bit more than expressing an opinion. So is taking steps to alter father/son arrangements.

If I'm not mistaken it was West Adelaide that got moved to Port for father/son purposes in place of Glenelg? Did Ross Gibbs consider the feelings of ex West Adelaide players in all of this? No! He concentrated solely on manipulating a situation to suit his wishes for his son.

(BTW my position on the father son rule is that only the sons of ex Port players should go there under the father son rule and the Crows by virtue of coming into existence in 1990 are not entitled to father/sons from the other SANFL clubs. That creates some disadvantage for both sides compared to the Victorian clubs but reflects reality)

 

[Toots Hibbert]

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[Toots Hibbert]

"Boy, when you grow up I'm going to make sure you play for the Crows, juuust liiiike me! "



"But Dad, you never played for the Crows! "





"You're going to play for those Crows even if people think I'm living my dreams through you! "

 

[cruiser]

Moved heaven and earth to ensure his son could be selected by the Crows under the father/son rule. Failed in this. Now there are reports that he has said Bryce is no certainty to nominate for the draft this year.

Does this guy have too much influence over the career of his son?

Dont YOU HATE getting thrashed by Glenelg you sad Port feral.

 

[Bourky23]

haha nice work toots hibbert

 

[Total Power]

LOL!Thats pure gold Toots

 

[Crow-mo]

Alas, poor Crow-mo. The argument for the negative has moved from "No he didn't!" to "Well why shouldn't he?"

waiting in the background huh toots,
how unlike you.

care to explain - how the argument "is he the equivalent to damir dokic" can move from "no he didn't" to "well he shouldn't" . really, I'd be interested.

which obviously I wouldn't, but every now and then it's funny to watch you convince yourself you've not made a *** of yourself.

 

[Ruddiger]

Does he drive a truck and hate sausages?

 

[Toots Hibbert]

waiting in the background huh toots,
how unlike you.

care to explain - how the argument "is he the equivalent to damir dokic" can move from "no he didn't" to "well he shouldn't" . really, I'd be interested.

which obviously I wouldn't, but every now and then it's funny to watch you convince yourself you've not made a *** of yourself.

A couple of points:- I don't think any sensible person would say I was waiting in the background in this thread. If anyone could be accused of that it would be you, surely, with your snide remark earlier in the thread while not making any contribution to the debate.

With regard to your question, here's the thing:- The thread title was designed to grab attention. I then asked in my first post whether Ross Gibbs is exerting undue influence on his son's career and stated that he'd gone to great lengths to ensure his son would play for the Crows. In response to that a number of people denied that he would speak for his son or push him into playing for one club or another. I then showed that he had done both those things with his push to have Glenelg moved to the Crows for father/son purposes and his declaration that "No son of mine will ever play for Port". In response to that, various people began to argue that he was justified in this. So I think it's perfectly correct to state that the arguments supporting Mr Gibbs have moved from "no he didn't" to "why shouldn't he?"

You have a sad habit of misunderstanding and misquoting things. It has gotten you into a real tangle on a number of occasions. You've successfully used the Quote button and so in that section of your post I say:- 'The argument for the negative has moved from "No he didn't!" to "Well why shouldn't he?"' But in your post you have me saying that the argument has moved to "well he shouldn't". That's quite a different thing! You're either foolish or you're deliberately misrepresenting me.

 

[noddy]

If the Bryce/Ross Gibbs saga is all yuse papsies have to hang your hat on for this year then you all have my deep felt sympathy & pity.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Does he drive a truck and hate sausages?

Funny you should say that! Ross Gibbs did some pretty bizarre things on the football field. Certainly a talented player but seriously, some of what he did was more than a little Damir Dokic-like.

 

[arrowman]

So he thinks Adelaide are just going to tank in 2007 to snare his son? He has to be kidding.

Obviously not. If Bryce did stand out of the draft it could only be because he genuinely (in conjunction with his father) felt it was best to wait another year. Which would be a very interesting decision - maybe the right one, maybe not, but certainly interesting.

 

[Junkie]

Funny you should say that! Ross Gibbs did some pretty bizarre things on the football field. Certainly a talented player but seriously, some of what he did was more than a little Damir Dokic-like.

What sort of things did he do on the footy field?

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Oh look we could be in danger of straying off topic.

 

[afc9798]

Oh look we could be in danger of straying off topic.

To help you out, maybe we need to start another thread entitled 'Is Toots Hibbert Bigfooty's equivalent of an idiot savant'.

Now to check:
1. Highly proficient at recalling pointless things....check.
2. Unable to have a cohesive discussion....check.
3. Unable to function as a normal member of the community...check.
4. Obviously intelligent, but in a pointless way....check.
5. Unable to produce facts or disseminate information to others....check.
6. Needs the assistance of pictures to communicate.....check.

Yep, all seems relevant here.

 

[The Fireman]

Oh look we could be in danger of straying off topic.

Aren't you the author of the dumbest and most embarrasing thread of the year?
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=258598


but on topic, the Clokes have Damir.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

OK afc9798 since you insist here are a couple of examples of Damir Dokic-like behaviour by Ross Gibbs. You didn't really think I'd come unprepared did you? :-

He once attempted to do the full monty on the football field. While playing full forward for Victor Harbour after his SANFL days were over he attempted to take a shot for goal in the nude. Having taken his jumper off and while taking off his shorts he was challenged by the umpire who awarded a free kick against him when he refused to stop.

He had a reputation for having tickets on himself while playing in the SANFL. This characteristic came to the fore while playing for Victor Harbour. An example was the day he was running into an open goal, placed the ball on the ground and back heeled it through.

Having been a good footballer in one of the top three competitions in the land, Gibbs had a wonderful time playing in the sticks against teams like Port Elliott who would go for years without winning a game. His showboating made him an object of hate amongst opposition supporters who would follow him from end to end at the beginning of each quarter in order to hurl abuse. He once took a bite out of an apple that had been thrown at him then hurled it back at the woman who had thrown it.

 

[noddy]

OK afc9798 since you insist here are a couple of examples of Damir Dokic-like behaviour by Ross Gibbs. You didn't really think I'd come unprepared did you!:-

He once attempted to do the full monty on the football field. While playing full forward for Victor Harbour after his SANFL days were over he attempted to take a shot for goal in the nude. Having taken his jumper off and while taking off his shorts he was challenged by the umpire who awarded a free kick against him when he refused to stop.

He had a reputation for having tickets on himself while playing in the SANFL. This characteristic came to the fore while playing for Victor Harbour. An example was the day he was running into an open goal, placed the ball on the ground and back heeled it through.

Having been a good footballer in one of the top three competitions in the land, Gibbs had a wonderful time playing in the sticks against teams like Port Elliott who would go for years without winning a game. His showboating made him an object of hate amongst opposition supporters who would follow him from end to end at the beginning of each quarter in order to hurl abuse. He once took a bite out of an apple that had been thrown at him then hurled it back at the woman who had thrown it.

All the above might make him seem to be a little eccentric but definitely not a Damir Dokic clone.

Try again Toots.

 

[afc9798]

OK afc9798 since you insist here are a couple of examples of Damir Dokic-like behaviour by Ross Gibbs. You didn't really think I'd come unprepared did you? :-

He once attempted to do the full monty on the football field. While playing full forward for Victor Harbour after his SANFL days were over he attempted to take a shot for goal in the nude. Having taken his jumper off and while taking off his shorts he was challenged by the umpire who awarded a free kick against him when he refused to stop.

He had a reputation for having tickets on himself while playing in the SANFL. This characteristic came to the fore while playing for Victor Harbour. An example was the day he was running into an open goal, placed the ball on the ground and back heeled it through.

Having been a good footballer in one of the top three competitions in the land, Gibbs had a wonderful time playing in the sticks against teams like Port Elliott who would go for years without winning a game. His showboating made him an object of hate amongst opposition supporters who would follow him from end to end at the beginning of each quarter in order to hurl abuse. He once took a bite out of an apple that had been thrown at him then hurled it back at the woman who had thrown it.

Mostly anecdotal and rumours rather than any fact. Even if he did do these things, they were simply someone having a bit of fun after years of playing in serious competition football. Not all players are dull robots who have no sense of self expression. Also to my knowledge, Ross is very well regarded in the great Southern League and has been a valuable drawcard for supporters, as have those like Tony Modra.

Going back to your thread title, Ross has not threatened to move his son to another country, turned up drunk to Bryce's games and abused officials, complained about the price of fish at the Glenelg FC, threatened to kill Bryce's girlfriend or been thrown out of a game or deregistered as a coach. Now, you are clearly suffering as a result of a torrid year and I'm prepared to cut you some slack, but this is an amateurish effort that wouldn't and shouldn't be welcome even in Bay 13.

My how the mighty have fallen Toots and you just keep scraping lower and lower. Oh what might have been before Toots and his sanity parted. Perhaps you should dedicate your time to helping Kane Cornes to clean out his pants.

 

[Tas]

I have no doubt if Gibbs is ready this year then he will go into the draft and spend his two year apprenticeship at Carlton or Essendon.

The risk is of course, would he want to stay here long-term thus the problem when the 2 year contract expires. If he says after 2 years he wants to go to Adelaide otherwise he will just go into the PSD and go to another club then the club takes him on is going to risk of wasting 2 years time development time and the possibility of not getting adequate compensation or risk any compensation.

It is one thing for Judd to go to Perth and want to stay there while they are a contender, it is unlikely the club he goes to will be in the same position within two years.

There are some good young KPP, many of them from Victoria so I think there will be the temptation to go for some local talent. He might get picked up by Port Adelaide and stay in Adelaide given there is a lot of good talent there this year besides Gibbs.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

If Port picked up Bryce Gibbs in the draft I'm sure he'd be a great asset down the track but I hope we can pick up a gun CHF with our first pick.

 

[four]

Has there ever been a more famous Aussie rules footballer who has yet to be drafted than Bryce Gibbs I doubt it.