Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack II

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Mid East - Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

Breaking the law. 'International humanitarian law prohibits a siege of Gaza, UN human rights commissioner says From CNN's Eve Brennan Ravina Shamdasani speaks at the Palais des Nations in Geneva, Switzerland, on September 7, 2018. Ravina Shamdasani speaks at the Palais des Nations in...

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[madmug]

It should be shown to all Hamas and Hamas civilians.
If a flamboyant Israeli tv personality is that emotional about the hostages then it will reinforce the message which is fight and die or surrender and live. Because Israel are not mucking around. The way I read it is they have had 75 years of this and it’s finished. Simple as that. Surrender and live. It’s how wars end . The more Hamas and civilians realise this the more lives will be saved.

In your efforts to openly express your rage against humanity , might be making you feel better and cope with the lunacy of war … it is not helping at all. Stop indirectly supporting Hamas …it’s making it worse.

We have people as we speak been arrested because they think terrorism is a viable option.

You really need to learn the difference between anti Zionism & anti Semitism. And likewise between Hamas terrorism & Palestinian civilians.
The Zionist Israeli Government are sentencing their country to another century of Terrorism as a response to their Genocidal behavior.
To not not realise what making a rod for their own back is, you need to ignore the last 75 years of Zionist actions, & the reaction to it. Clearly you have!
The Palestinians are REACTING to 75 years of Zionist actions. Any population being invaded & having land stolen, would react to defend itself in any way it can.

 

[Cameron_Jezza]

Needs human intervention.
So many rotten pro Israeli supporters in America, rotten pro hamas supporters in Iran, Lebanon.
We just had Anzac day, Ww1, Ww2 had well over 100 million deaths for no good reason, due to a few rotten individuals and some ridiculous treaties ( and politicians happy to make others fight, but not themselves).

Create the 2 states, the rest of the world can go back to ignoring that liitle chunk of ghe world completely ( but wishing it a happy peaceful existence).

 

[madmug]

Needs human intervention.
So many rotten pro Israeli supporters in America, rotten pro hamas supporters in Iran, Lebanon.
We just had Anzac day, Ww1, Ww2 had well over 100 million deaths for no good reason, due to a few rotten individuals and some ridiculous treaties ( and politicians happy to make others fight, but not themselves).

Create the 2 states, the rest of the world can go back to ignoring that liitle chunk of ghe world completely ( but wishing it a happy peaceful existence).

Leaders cause wars. Whether they be Political or religious leaders. Civilians pay the price. Usually the poorest civilians at that.