Its Time For Trigg To Resign.

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Oh dear. The Trigg-has-ruined-us brigade.

Do you blame him for Crows having dangerfield? Do you blame him for Crows having Betts?…if you want to say yes because we lost draft picks and had to go the free agent road, then fine. Do you blame him for instigating the police lectures to the players about the dangers of associating with scum bikies and other low-lifes to prevent the kind of shitstorm Jake King will eventually bring to Richmond? …long before it became a publicised issue. Do you blame him for the Crows being able to afford to pay their share of their $20Mill training complex? Did you blame him for Westpac's sponsorship? …and now Bendigo Bank?

In answer to the pre-empted posts that will ensue, and that we've all heard a thousand times over - Nup, Nup, I Don't care.
This has to be one if the worst and most ill informed posts I have ever read on big footy*

*not including the port board
 

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Not many people are privy to the inside running of the club. But from the outside looking in, coming from someone who has been fine with Triggs performances prior to the flog that was Tippett, he needs to remove himself from the AFC as soon as possible.

People from within the club would know this but unless they are higher up, they'd have no chance of saying so because they'd get the bullet!

If he had the best interests of the club at heart, he'd already be gone.
 
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The list of Trigg stuff ups long that has now seen our club ridiculed and tarnished along poorer in fines, income etc. However off course we have lost 6 top 2 round draft picks or equivalent which if added to our strong base of players would have us in a extremely strong position . But here is the real brain burner rather than the man that done all this damage to our club has survived ,but the man who pulled off those draft
picks that has given us some future hope has been sacked .
Now you try and explain that to a outsider.
Now lets look for positives
Well there is AO some say but lets be honest Vlad and politics pulled that off .
Now Jenny pulls out Bendigo Bank deal -- wow we pulled off a country bank that is trying to keep a strong base in SA so hard decision by them to sponsor biggest SA sporting club .
No the sponsorships deals Power have pulled off have deserved credit under their circumstances.
I like many many other FB posters do not like to see our club suffer in anyway and I for one will not stop criticising this man until he no longer is connected to our club.
 
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Oh dear. The Trigg-has-ruined-us brigade.

Do you blame him for Crows having dangerfield? Do you blame him for Crows having Betts?…if you want to say yes because we lost draft picks and had to go the free agent road, then fine. Do you blame him for instigating the police lectures to the players about the dangers of associating with scum bikies and other low-lifes to prevent the kind of shitstorm Jake King will eventually bring to Richmond? …long before it became a publicised issue. Do you blame him for the Crows being able to afford to pay their share of their $20Mill training complex? Did you blame him for Westpac's sponsorship? …and now Bendigo Bank?

In answer to the pre-empted posts that will ensue, and that we've all heard a thousand times over - Nup, Nup, I Don't care.
Bernie Vince says hello... As would still be at afc if we didn't have sanctions.

Imagine what our squad would look like with another 6 x 1st or 2nd round picks!

Trigg's " leadership" will cost us success including flags imo.

Along with a lack of a decent apology or promised explanation to supporters, this is why I have lost confidence in him to lead afc & I want him gone asap so we can get someone who will return us to be an afl powerhouse like we were prior to trigg
 

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The thing is its just not the lost picks, he has a history of gaffs, stuffing things up and incompetence:

Financial performance
Falling attendances
Lack of on field success
Backing Craig with "as far as the eye can see" calling supporters pathetic and then sacking Craig 6 months later
Criticising Port as a blight on SA footy and then getting caught for cheating
Sacking Rendell
Not trading Tippett in 09 when he knew there was an issue
Tippettgate and the lost picks and Bernie Vince
Demanding we receive unanimous SANFL club support for the seconds side and then retreating
Jumper fiasco, no written agreement to cover all conditions and then labelling criticism pathetic

His prescence leads us to being bitch slapped by the AFL at any opportunity. Consequences:
Losing first AO showdown
Not getting the Anzac Day weekend game, instead goes to Port

Jenny, why don't you run this list past Triggy, perhaps reality might sink in
 

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This has to be one if the worst and most ill informed posts I have ever read on big footy*

*not including the port board
Ill informed?…So we don't have dangerfield, betts, or a $20mil complex etc?

If everything else is Trigg's fault, then why not these?

Bernie Vince says hello... As would still be at afc if we didn't have sanctions.
Bernie Vince?….Oh, that player that so many on BF said was lazy and only played the occasional good game when it suited him? Bernie was a victim of himself.



But hey, I've said it before. Nup, nup, I don't care. I'll leave you folk to keep your knickers in a twist
 
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the only act that really matters is Trigg deliberately broke AFL rules and then deliberately lied about having done so right up until the moment he was caught. his resignation should have been accepted by the board because as we have seen since, those actions made his position untenable. he has lost almost all credibility and has been a lame duck CEO ever since. the other stuff that people are highlighting pales into insignificance by comparison.
 

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The thing is its just not the lost picks, he has a history of gaffs, stuffing things up and incompetence:

Financial performance
Falling attendances
Lack of on field success
Backing Craig with "as far as the eye can see" calling supporters pathetic and then sacking Craig 6 months later
Criticising Port as a blight on SA footy and then getting caught for cheating
Sacking Rendell
Not trading Tippett in 09 when he knew there was an issue
Tippettgate and the lost picks and Bernie Vince
Demanding we receive unanimous SANFL club support for the seconds side and then retreating
Jumper fiasco, no written agreement to cover all conditions and then labelling criticism pathetic

His prescence leads us to being bitch slapped by the AFL at any opportunity. Consequences:
Losing first AO showdown
Not getting the Anzac Day weekend game, instead goes to Port

Jenny, why don't you run this list past Triggy, perhaps reality might sink in
The first showdown and Anzac Day?? I'm thinking it's probably got a bit to do with some equalisation policy somewhere and I'm not that comfortable about setting the witch alight when the goblins had so much more to do with it.

As for the rest, apart from some petty bullshit (as far as the eye can see ) if you are putting the sole blame on Trigg then you are just looking for a scapegoat and making excuses for a whole range of personnel at the AFC and in the AFL, our players included.
 

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Ill informed?…So we don't have dangerfield, betts, or a $20mil complex etc?

If everything else is Trigg's fault, then why not these?



Bernie Vince?….Oh, that player that so many on BF said was lazy and only played the occasional good game when it suited him? Bernie was a victim of himself.



But hey, I've said it before. Nup, nup, I don't care. I'll leave you folk to keep your knickers in a twist
Bullshit you don't care. That's why you keep coming back.

What are your thoughts about Trigg sacking the recruiter who secured Dangerfield?

We've been courting Betts for a year, Trigg was suspended so you're giving him credit? Ok then how about the players we missed out on, if you are giving Trigg the credit for Betts then he's responsible for not getting Lecras, Polec, Gorringe, Edwards. In fact we can tie not getting Pearce or recruiting any player of note to Trigg in 2012 as we were distracted with an investigation. Actually it's Triggs fault we got Graham.

Vince, no matter what some posters thought of him, he was traded to get a pick, Sando repeated it again this week. A trade that wouldn't have been necessary had we not lost picks. Further to that, how did the playing group feel about losing a mate in these circumstances and seeing other names thrown up for trade?

And the $20M spent on the Westpac centre, what's it worth now? Property goes up right? What's it worth now?
 

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The first showdown and Anzac Day?? I'm thinking it's probably got a bit to do with some equalisation policy somewhere and I'm not that comfortable about setting the witch alight when the goblins had so much more to do with it.

As for the rest, apart from some petty bullshit (as far as the eye can see ) if you are putting the sole blame on Trigg then you are just looking for a scapegoat and making excuses for a whole range of personnel at the AFC and in the AFL, our players included.
Nice fluff piece to some deflect errors on Triggs behalf.
 
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I'm so over all this bullshit, nothing any of us on BF say will change anything!!
But the defenders of trigg never provide an opposing argument. Just rubbish like the above and stuff like "he's done lots of good things" without identifying any. I do take the point that the afc isn't as important as a senate election. However, that bloke fell on his sword and you can be quite certain that he had no physical role in the stuff up. Yours and Jenny's view is that he should keep his job because of the ballots that didn't go missing.
 

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the only act that really matters is Trigg deliberately broke AFL rules and then deliberately lied about having done so right up until the moment he was caught. his resignation should have been accepted by the board because as we have seen since, those actions made his position untenable. he has lost almost all credibility and has been a lame duck CEO ever since. the other stuff that people are highlighting pales into insignificance by comparison.
He didn't offer his resignation, that was pure spin. He did the exact opposite. I doubt he would even have admitted his treachery to jenny.
 

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I blame Trigg for getting rid of the guy who drafted Dangerfield, Sloane, Talia, Smith, Grigg etc
Oh really. You don't think fat Vlad had any influence there? This was clearly a situation of the perceived victim being a victim of himself and the AFL being particularly jumpy re racism - and rightly so.

Trigg is the CEO that you see as doing everything wrong, and that everything, repeat everything is Trigg's fault. This is clearly not the case and while it was a good way to vent at first after Tippett, the supposition is now just too childish. Didn't Trigg offer his resignation at some time? If he did then everything is all Chapman's and the board's fault. Sack em all.
 

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Bullshit you don't care. That's why you keep coming back.

What are your thoughts about Trigg sacking the recruiter who secured Dangerfield?

We've been courting Betts for a year, Trigg was suspended so you're giving him credit? Ok then how about the players we missed out on, if you are giving Trigg the credit for Betts then he's responsible for not getting Lecras, Polec, Gorringe, Edwards. In fact we can tie not getting Pearce or recruiting any player of note to Trigg in 2012 as we were distracted with an investigation. Actually it's Triggs fault we got Graham.

Vince, no matter what some posters thought of him, he was traded to get a pick, Sando repeated it again this week. A trade that wouldn't have been necessary had we not lost picks. Further to that, how did the playing group feel about losing a mate in these circumstances and seeing other names thrown up for trade?

And the $20M spent on the Westpac centre, what's it worth now? Property goes up right? What's it worth now?
You've got it wrong. I don't care that Trigg is still CEO.

What I do care about is the ridiculous repetitive bullshit that goes unchallenged, like blaming Trigg for property prices Now??? FFS, quit while your soul hasn't been eaten away by hatred.
 

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Oh really. You don't think fat Vlad had any influence there? This was clearly a situation of the perceived victim being a victim of himself and the AFL being particularly jumpy re racism - and rightly so.

Trigg is the CEO that you see as doing everything wrong, and that everything, repeat everything is Trigg's fault. This is clearly not the case and while it was a good way to vent at first after Tippett, the supposition is now just too childish. Didn't Trigg offer his resignation at some time? If he did then everything is all Chapman's and the board's fault. Sack em all.
Very interesting that you generalise not everything is Triggs fault and only defend one or two points.

As to this one, Trigg could have stood up to Vlad just as Eddie or Kennett would have.

So who do you give credit for Danger, Rendell or Trigg?
 

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You've got it wrong. I don't care that Trigg is still CEO.

What I do care about is the ridiculous repetitive bullshit that goes unchallenged, like blaming Trigg for property prices Now??? FFS, quit while your soul hasn't been eaten away by hatred.
Are you related to Jenny?

You spruked the $20M Westpac centre, I'm merely asking was it a good investment. It's a logical question.

And you said you didn't care about the responses to your defence of Trigg
 

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He didn't offer his resignation, that was pure spin. He did the exact opposite. I doubt he would even have admitted his treachery to jenny.
Sounds like you are making shit up. This sounds like your version of events. You would want to be sure this is true because unless you have proof it is a pretty inflammatory statement.

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Sounds like you are making shit up. This sounds like your version of events. You would want to be sure this is true because unless you have proof it is a pretty inflammatory statement.

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I trust my source 100%. The outcome supports the version that was told to me so there is no reason to doubt the source. Not that I would anyway.
 

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I trust my source 100%. The outcome supports the version that was told to me so there is no reason to doubt the source. Not that I would anyway.
So here was there in the meeting where Trigg, Chapman and the board were discussing what happens next. And he heard Trigg NOT say I am going to resign (or words to that effect). Unless you were a fly on the wall it is pure speculation.

This version sounds good so you are running with it.
 
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You've got it wrong. I don't care that Trigg is still CEO.

What I do care about is the ridiculous repetitive bullshit that goes unchallenged, like blaming Trigg for property prices Now??? FFS, quit while your soul hasn't been eaten away by hatred.
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Nice fluff piece to some deflect errors on Triggs behalf.
Seriously?
Very interesting that you generalise not everything is Triggs fault and only defend one or two points.

As to this one, Trigg could have stood up to Vlad just as Eddie or Kennett would have.

So who do you give credit for Danger, Rendell or Trigg?
No, you generalise that everything is Trigg's fault. I merely point out that that's what you do. I only have to defend one or two points to prove not everything is Trigg's fault, and going on your premise that everything is Trigg's fault, yes, I credit Trigg for dangerfield…and Danger re-signing.
Are you related to Jenny?

You spruked the $20M Westpac centre, I'm merely asking was it a good investment. It's a logical question.

And you said you didn't care about the responses to your defence of Trigg
OK, now I know your just takin' the piss. You are questioning whether the 'Westpac Centre' was a good investment? hmmm, well, if it was known that AFL footy would be moving to Adelaide oval, then there would probably be some substance in that question, but guess what...

And I don't care that my unpopular posts in this circle jerk of hate and irrationality draw the same ol' same ol' responses. That doesn't mean I have to let them slip through to the keeper….because when you do that, the bowlers think that because no one has opposed their ridiculous thinking, that everyone must agree with you.
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I'm pretty sure 'strawman' is a fair way down on my 'to love' list. But with humour like that, you are zooming up that list.
 

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Seriously?

No, you generalise that everything is Trigg's fault. I merely point out that that's what you do. I only have to defend one or two points to prove not everything is Trigg's fault, and going on your premise that everything is Trigg's fault, yes, I credit Trigg for dangerfield…and Danger re-signing.


OK, now I know your just takin' the piss. You are questioning whether the 'Westpac Centre' was a good investment? hmmm, well, if it was known that AFL footy would be moving to Adelaide oval, then there would probably be some substance in that question, but guess what...

And I don't care that my unpopular posts in this circle jerk of hate and irrationality draw the same ol' same ol' responses. That doesn't mean I have to let them slip through to the keeper….because when you do that, the bowlers think that because no one has opposed their ridiculous thinking, that everyone must agree with you.


I'm pretty sure 'strawman' is a fair way down on my 'to love' list. But with humour like that, you are zooming up that list.
You've made the fatal error of assuming you've proved they aren't Triggs fault. What's even more assuming is you think citing the drafting of Danger can be attributed to Trigg and somehow backs up your position.
 

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So here was there in the meeting where Trigg, Chapman and the board were discussing what happens next. And he heard Trigg NOT say I am going to resign (or words to that effect). Unless you were a fly on the wall it is pure speculation.

This version sounds good so you are running with it.
Not sure how you hear someone not say something. If I wanted to make something up and run with it, I could have done it months ago. As I said, I trust the person that I heard from and I know his source would be very capable of coming across this type of info. Of course, your view that everything uttered publicly is absolute gospel is much more likely. I mean the Tippett affair and resultant sanctions wouldn't be the type of event that would result in a bit of self-interest rearing it's head. Your view of complete honesty by the club, especially considering the actual issue, is incredibly naive.
 

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You've made the fatal error of assuming you've proved they aren't Triggs fault. What's even more assuming is you think citing the drafting of Danger can be attributed to Trigg and somehow backs up your position.
You watch too much television.

I only have to argue that at least one thing is not Trigg's fault (like property prices) and therefore everything cannot be Trigg's fault as you assume... oh, and you need to find someone who cares whether you claim victory in a life and death debate as to whether Trigg is to blame for everything or not.
 
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