Jack Darling

[Hotdees]

Pretty sure he could help provide a target for that rabble of a list to climb above 17th. The upgrade from Weideman is incalculable.

Preuss would be 80% of Gawn, Oliver can largely be replaced by any one of your slow, turnover merchant mids who can't hit a target with a 3m handball.

But the truth hurts I know. That preseason flag must seem like eons ago.

Ok Jack

 

[DirtySandman]

Ok Jack

You’re putting in as much effort into this, as your club has in 2019

 

[Hotdees]

You’re putting in as much effort into this, as your club has in 2019

I’ve stated my opinion. He won’t do sfa this week.

 

[omgfridge]

I’ve stated my opinion. He won’t do sfa this week.

This should age well.

 

[Hotdees]

If ever there was a delusional username, yours is it buddy.

Your excessive salt levels are indicative of a front row seat at Fed square for last years prelim.

Typical Eagles supporter. First class ****wit

 

[ronpingwins]

Typical Eagles supporter. First class *******

I think people are wanting you to justify your opinion a bit better, rather than just "ok Mrs darling", because the rebuttals contradicted your points.

 

[demondavey]

After half time. Prior to that he was having another disaster of a grand final day. Turned it round on the day which says a lot about him and been an immense player for a number of years. I think best forward in the game is a stretch, but he's a gun.

Who is better?

 

[demondavey]

Melbourne would be a better side if they traded Gawn and Oliver for Darling.

 

[Corkintheocean]

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Good giffage. But yes, an influential, contesting key forward would solve some of the Dees problems. I'm not saying he is better than those two players. Just that he would improve the side's win expectancy for 2020. Gap between him and your 2nd best key forward (who he would replace) is greater than the gap between Gawn to Preuss and Oliver to 4th mid combined.

It's a nuanced argument so I'm not expecting all Dees fans to understand. Perhaps "Hotdees" is Simon Goodwin?

Hi Simon

 

[demondavey]

Good giffage. But yes, an influential, contesting key forward would solve some of the Dees problems. I'm not saying he is better than those two players. Just that he would improve the side's win expectancy for 2020. Gap between him and your 2nd best key forward (who he would replace) is greater than the gap between Gawn to Preuss and Oliver to 4th mid combined.

It's a nuanced argument so I'm not expecting all Dees fans to understand. Perhaps "Hotdees" is Simon Goodwin?

Hi Simon

You do realise that without a midfield we can’t kick the ball to Darling right? As much as I rate Darling he really wouldn’t solve our issues unless he could play as an outside midfielder with elite disposal.

 

[Corkintheocean]

You do realise that without a midfield we can’t kick the ball to Darling right? As much as I rate Darling he really wouldn’t solve our issues unless he could play as an outside midfielder with elite disposal.

Centre: Preuss, Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw
Fwd: Darling

>

Centre: Gawn, Viney, Oliver, Harmes
Fwd: Fritsch/Weideman

IMO

 

[demondavey]

Centre: Preuss, Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw
Fwd: Darling

>

Centre: Gawn, Viney, Oliver, Harmes
Fwd: Fritsch/Weideman

IMO

 

[Corkintheocean]

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Nah you've got me there, your list is looking a chicken treat right now.

Far be it from me to suggest hypothetical changes to a winning formula.

 

[demondavey]

Nah you've got me there, your list is looking a chicken treat right now.

Far be it from me to suggest hypothetical changes to a winning formula.

Mate, you’re underestimating how good Gawn is and overestimating Preuss. You also have to realise with a fully fit McDonald we are making a PF last year. So the forward line isn’t that bad for us with Fritsch and Melksham. Plus Petracca as a fourth.

Now if you’d said Yeo could be added to our midfield, or even Ryan to our forward line, then we are talking. Our issue isn’t the forward target, it’s the pace and creativity a great small forward brings and a genuine A grade midfielder. You’re also overrating Viney and Brayshaw. Seriously seriously overrating them.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Mate, you’re underestimating how good Gawn is and overestimating Preuss. You also have to realise with a fully fit McDonald we are making a PF last year. So the forward line isn’t that bad for us with Fritsch and Melksham. Plus Petracca as a fourth.

Now if you’d said Yeo could be added to our midfield, or even Ryan to our forward line, then we are talking. Our issue isn’t the forward target, it’s the pace and creativity a great small forward brings and a genuine A grade midfielder. You’re also overrating Viney and Brayshaw. Seriously seriously overrating them.

Gawn is good, I'm not disputing that. I just think you can get 80% of him with Preuss.

Your setup would be Darling, McDonald, Melksham and Petracca/Fritsch...which would actually be a pretty dynamic forwardline.

I'm not overrating Viney...was just keeping him constant in the comparison. He isn't a best 22 player on an AFL list. But he is in both sides for argument sake. Oliver wins a heap of pill but his disposal is Treloar like.

Anyway, you obviously disagree with me which is fine, some may agree. But the thing that is indisputable is Melbourne's list is not in great shape.

It's the Steven May of lists if you will.

 

[Turboman1994]

Gawn is good, I'm not disputing that. I just think you can get 80% of him with Preuss.

Your setup would be Darling, McDonald, Melksham and Petracca/Fritsch...which would actually be a pretty dynamic forwardline.

I'm not overrating Viney...was just keeping him constant in the comparison. He isn't a best 22 player on an AFL list. But he is in both sides for argument sake. Oliver wins a heap of pill but his disposal is Treloar like.

Anyway, you obviously disagree with me which is fine, some may agree. But the thing that is indisputable is Melbourne's list is not in great shape.

It's the Steven May of lists if you will.

Taking Oliver and Gawn out for Darling is robbing Peter to pay Paul

 

[demondavey]

Gawn is good, I'm not disputing that. I just think you can get 80% of him with Preuss.

Your setup would be Darling, McDonald, Melksham and Petracca/Fritsch...which would actually be a pretty dynamic forwardline.

I'm not overrating Viney...was just keeping him constant in the comparison. He isn't a best 22 player on an AFL list. But he is in both sides for argument sake. Oliver wins a heap of pill but his disposal is Treloar like.

Anyway, you obviously disagree with me which is fine, some may agree. But the thing that is indisputable is Melbourne's list is not in great shape.

It's the Steven May of lists if you will.

I agree, it’s in poor shape due to being unbalanced. We need to cut a few, trade a few and acquire two very different midfield types. We then need to focus upon changing the way we play. It’s possible to change it quickly now, as in this off season, but it’ll take a lot from the coaching group.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Taking Oliver and Gawn out for Darling is robbing Peter to pay Paul

That is certainly a saying. Albeit one that gives a poor synopsis of the topic.

 

[mighty_sainters]

Good solid player, has his premiership medal so congratulations to him.

But I just don’t like him, has the smugness of Adam Hunter. On the other hand, I absolutely love Josh Kennedy.

 

[Dazzler9]

Can peeps stfu about Jack Darling playing for Melbourne? Stuff of nightmares.

 

[Dazzler9]

Good solid player, has his premiership medal so congratulations to him.

But I just don’t like him, has the smugness of Adam Hunter. On the other hand, I absolutely love Josh Kennedy.

If there's one thing he ain't, it is smug.

 

[SloppyJoe]

I’ve stated my opinion. He won’t do sfa this week.

I'm not challenging your opinion - you can think/predict whatever you want, and your prediction may well come true - I'm just challenging the basis for it.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I agree, it’s in poor shape due to being unbalanced. We need to cut a few, trade a few and acquire two very different midfield types. We then need to focus upon changing the way we play. It’s possible to change it quickly now, as in this off season, but it’ll take a lot from the coaching group.

If I was MELBOURNE I’d be taking to Gold Coast and seeing what they’d give up for Brayshaw. If you could talk brayshaw into leaving he’d blossom and you’d get potentially pick 1 back, win win.

 

[demondavey]

If I was MELBOURNE I’d be taking to Gold Coast and seeing what they’d give up for Brayshaw. If you could talk brayshaw into leaving he’d blossom and you’d get potentially pick 1 back, win win.

You think we’d get pick 1 for Brayshaw?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

You think we’d get pick 1 for Brayshaw?

Probably have to give your second rounder back? They need established players. He can be a gun with a decent coach playing him in the center square