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Don't understand the Jenkins bashing he's a half decent fwd who kicked 40 goals last year and didn't even play a whole season... His ruck work is serviceable stretches defenders by not allowing teams to double up on tex he's a very valuable player to our structure and I don't think the club will be offering him up any time soon
 

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Daniel1812 said:
You can't compare Beams deal and Aish

1. Beams was one of collingwoods best players
2. Beams was still contracted to collingwood
3. Aish is out of contract , so giving up our first and second like you suggested is far fetched
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Hear...Hear!

Thankfully our recruiting staff are far more wiser than some of our supporters.
 
feenix67 said:
Nah, Jenkins is warming the seat for a real CHF, Aish is a 200 gamer.
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At this point Aish is nothing more than the potential seen in him. Jenkins is also a two hundred gamer.

Edit is 26 yrs so won't make 200 obviously. But will be in the game for the long haul.
 
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Wayne's-World said:
It would have been so easy for the club to turn CEY over ......so much patience for a midfielder is unusual ....glad the club did.
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Just on that point I think if we hadn't lost our early draft picks for those two years it would be likely CEY would have been delisted, the same goes for Jaensch. If those two continue to improve we could have come out of the sanctions really well.
 
FullyBigKPro said:
Jenkins and our first pick at the end of the year (10-14)..... Not ideal for Brisbane but they would have to take that and move on you'd imagine..

Aish and B Crouch would absolutely cement our midfield for the next 10 years
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Thank Christ your not on our recruiting staff!

In your scenario your suggesting we wheel Pods out for the next 2 years because he is the only other PROVEN KPF on our main list, and who knows if Ramsay will ever measure up yet, and even if he does it will be 2 years before he is in anyway developed. Currently we need Jenkins far more than we need Aish unless somewhat miraculously we can find a fully developed and ready to go KPF.
 
Golumless said:
Fair point, it's what i'd angle for... it definitely doesn't feel right to give two draft picks up for Aish when he's out of contract and we've been screwed over in the past with this.
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You haven't been screwed as much as we have we are pretty flexible in trade week
 
whattagun07 said:
Surely Freo have more pressing needs than an inside mid such as Danger.
They should be all over Rance, and any key forward they can get their hands on
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What worries me is that it's that audacious and unpredictable it might just happen. Re Tippett and franklin.
 

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Bicks said:
Thank Christ your not on our recruiting staff!

In your scenario your suggesting we wheel Pods out for the next 2 years because he is the only other PROVEN KPF on our main list, and who knows if Ramsay will ever measure up yet, and even if he does it will be 2 years before he is in anyway developed. Currently we need Jenkins far more than we need Aish unless somewhat miraculously we can find a fully developed and ready to go KPF.
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But apparently it's easy to recruit a better KPF/CHF. Even though in our 25 year history, we haven't been able to draft/recruit too many who can kick goals regularly.
 
Dangerousfield said:
Getting screwed over in the past doesn't come into it. No team has been more screwed over than Brisbane in the 2013 trade period when five high draft picks walked out for home states and Brisbane got no where near correct value.

Look at Dayne Beams going home to Brisbane last year, cost Brisbane (roughly) pick 8, 25 and the highly promising Jack Crisp.

Aish will cost us our first and second picks minimum, Port will do that in a heartbeat. If Danger walks out, expect that compo pick to be in play as well. Aish is a rare talent, clubs will pay to get him.

Aish walking is a big reason why we should support the northern academies because the four northern teams suffer unfairly from go home factor because they have a much higher % of interstaters on their lists.
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The big difference there was Beams still had a year to go on his contract, as well as the fact that he's an all Australian player.
 
so this whole Aish thing is getting worrying, sounds like they are pressing him to sign, going by recetn history anyway.

what I don't understand is why the AFL doesn't clean this aspect up.

in reality, rather than doing what the CEO of Brisbane want, why not just put minimum values on the players in the first 8 years?

I like the NFL model to a degree, but surely we could come up with something pretty reasonable given the statistics we have avaliable to the value of 1st rounder.
 
The cost of getting Aish is more than the cost of replacing Jenkins. If a second round pick gets us Schoenmakers or Gorringe or Day or O'Brien, then they could deliver most of what Jenkins is doing (with Lowden on the bench, as there will be no sub rule).
 
Dangerousfield said:
Getting screwed over in the past doesn't come into it. No team has been more screwed over than Brisbane in the 2013 trade period when five high draft picks walked out for home states and Brisbane got no where near correct value.

Look at Dayne Beams going home to Brisbane last year, cost Brisbane (roughly) pick 8, 25 and the highly promising Jack Crisp.

Aish will cost us our first and second picks minimum, Port will do that in a heartbeat. If Danger walks out, expect that compo pick to be in play as well. Aish is a rare talent, clubs will pay to get him.

Aish walking is a big reason why we should support the northern academies because the four northern teams suffer unfairly from go home factor because they have a much higher % of interstaters on their lists.
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I highly doubt port would do that considering they didn't even give up a straight swap of the first rounder for polec, I'd be really disappointed if the club couldn't get a better deal done than giving up 2 first rounders
 
feenix67 said:
Nah, Jenkins is warming the seat for a real CHF, Aish is a 200 gamer.
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They don't grow on trees

Upgrading Jenkins will be extremely expensive in terms of dollars plus what we have to give up.

Not that we shouldn't try to.
 

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Mr MysteryGuest said:
I highly doubt port would do that considering they didn't even give up a straight swap of the first rounder for polec, I'd be really disappointed if the club couldn't get a better deal done than giving up 2 first rounders
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I'm not sure why people are mentioning Polec. Polec had done nothing at Brisbane, and was perennially injured. Aish is in his second year after having a very impressive rookie season in which he played 21 of 22 games (5 more than Polec managed in his 3 years at Brisbane). I agree that two first rounders would be on the high side, but if Aish comes to Adelaide via a trade, it's not going to be cheap.
 
headache1 said:
I'm not sure why people are mentioning Polec. Polec had done nothing at Brisbane, and was perennially injured. Aish is in his second year after having a very impressive rookie season in which he played 21 of 22 games (5 more than Polec managed in his 3 years at Brisbane). I agree that two first rounders would be on the high side, but if Aish comes to Adelaide via a trade, it's not going to be cheap.
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Because it's relevant, both were top 10 draft picks, even if it's not exactly the same situation, it provides a minimum precedent to go off. Port basically gave their first for polec and brisbanes 2nd plus a bit of maneuvering with other picks. Giving up two first rounders for an uncontracted 2nd year player if is not good enough
 
For the life of me I don't understand why people don't understand the problem with thinking that Aish as an uncontracted player will come to us cheap because the buying club has the upper hand. But that an uncontracted Danger (post matching) won't go to Geelong cheap because the selling club has the upper hand.

Put down the Kool Aid please!

If Aish is on the open market though it will be the first real test of the new admin.
 

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