I think 50/50 at this stage, with every chance that it goes back to the Liberals in 2025.
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Josh Frydenberg. Out of his depth.
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That makes no sense, look at the last 20 - 30 years of election results.
I hope Frydenberg loses his seat, but the Liberals ain't going away.
They won’t get if they put up a joker like the just departed state member for kew Tim Smith?
And they wonder why they are on the nose?
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The LNP won't go away, but they'll fragment like the ALP had, and increasingly be at the mercy of independents/minor parties. They need major reform to prevent that, but I just don't see it given their talent pool and 'nursery'.
RE The Fry preferencing ON ahead of a teal, I'm sure Kooyong voters will be thrilled about that.
Really hard to tell TBH - The Fry seems to be trying his best to lose it. I'm not sure they'll go back to the LNP either, absent serious reform. If they have a relatively moderate leader in charge they will, but absent serious reform, maintaining it will be tough, and I can't see them voting for someone like ScoMo or Dud-ton. The problem the LNP has is that those types (religious nutters/drys) dominate the party now. There aren't too many wets left, the in-betweeners are scarce, and The Fry being defeated will deprive them of one of their most important wets.
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The last 20-30 years of election results point to a decline in the LNP/ALP duopoly. I expect that to continue.
And I think that's a good thing for Australian democracy - more views being represented and 'the bastards' being kept honest. Look at how utterly toxic the two-party system is in the United States.
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he wasn't saying they r going into oblivion just that it may force them 2 move away from extreme right mendacity of recent times - ala █████. hence using the words surviving "as we know it"
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Maybe so, but they are going to be under increasing pressure as the baby boomers die out and the current younger generation comprises a higher percentage of the voting public.
Yes but we are seeing mega dollars from the likes of Palmer an Holmes-a-court. May not be a great development eupithr
You can’t compare Palmer & HaC.
Palmer is in it for self interest. He’s amusing himself & making bank.
HaC is trying to shake up the political system to effect better outcomes, for Australia & the planet, primarily in transitioning to green energy.
HaC is highly articulate & intelligent.
Clive was last seen at a forum of RW conspiracy theorists talking trash about vaccines & NWO nonsense.
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I was meaning the injection of money direct into the democratic system. Eventually it could become beyond the reach of ordinary people
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Getting pretty desperate judging by his new advertising campaign
Not sure many Kooyong voters read the Herald Sun.
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Josh is confused, poor puppet.Always gotten everything he wants. Never been told no.
Ffs Josh.
Turn up to the next local debate, in your actual electorate, with locals asking the questions.
Whats that I hear, hell no....
You sir are weak, a coward.
Ffs Josh.
Turn up to the next local debate, in your actual electorate, with locals asking the questions.
Whats that I hear, hell no....
You sir are weak, a coward.
Kooyong labor voters itching to make a difference for perhaps the first time in their voting lives…….
Good to have you here Joshy.
So you are speaking for the people of kooyong, but live where?
I’m not speaking for the people of Kooyong, but I do live here
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Interesting take. My conversations with my neighbours all start with
"I think Josh is in trouble". Perhaps it is my bias and I am interpeting that as 'we are going to see the last of him'. I had dismissed your interpretation that 'the one we love will soon be gone'.
And I am in one of the most conservative parts of Hawthorn
The poshest booths swung thr hardest away from lnp in the last state election. Some double digit in there. Bloody toffs. Seems the culture wars don’t do a thing here.
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I don't live there but all my conversations start with Josh is a lady part and go downhill from there
Last election at my local booth we had Kroger handing out How to vote cards . It had one of the poorer results for Burnside
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Similar. The conversations do go downhill after the inital remark (we are more non gender specific and just call him an a***hole)
Taking this line isn’t doing him any favours. The people who’ve swung against will double down if anything.
I’m guessing his cushy private enterprise job is already sorted.
LNP don’t mind even encourage a protest vote if it’s right wing, so hugely hypocritical
I’m guessing his cushy private enterprise job is already sorted.
LNP don’t mind even encourage a protest vote if it’s right wing, so hugely hypocritical
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