Justin Charles..Richmond ruckman..drug cheat??

[footy75]

What ever happened to Justin Charles after he was caught cheating for using roids??

he played a few more games after his suspension i think and then retired..???

did he stay in football??

if i remember correctly he also played baseball in the states...i think when he got caught one of the things he said was all the American baseball players use them.. he wasn´t wrong there.

To his credit when he got caught i´m sure he manned up and admitted it and apologised and didn´t come up with some bullshit excuse like they all do (spiked drink, hormones in chickens ect). Must of been a tough time for him. Why the hell would you do it on such good money anyway??? silly. and it was equipoise a drug used for horses and pigeons...what was he thinking

What did he end up doing, where did he go? he still play at lower levels?

 

[1980GFVideo]

The reason he did it was to get onto the football field. He was troubled by an injury and stupidly decided to take the risk.

The money and other reasons would have made it enticing to get on the field at any cost rather than face delisting.

I think he went around schools warning about the use of steroids perhaps to salvage his image.

When you read this it makes you wonder.

Justin Charles - I would do it again.

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

Coached Nth Footscray for at least a season.
Heard he copped so much crap from the sidelines that he gave it up.
Saw him a few years ago at my chiropractors in Yarraville dressed in overalls.

Although he is essentially a drug cheat, I dont see him in the same light as Marion Jones etc.

Just a passionate bloke desperate to play footy.

 

[Ron The Bear]

The term 'drug cheat' wasn't entrenched in the public psyche like it is today. Nobody was sure what sort of penalty he'd get. Can't remember anyone saying at the time that he got off lightly with a 16-week suspension although Barassi said later that, after initially thinking the penalty was fair, he'd changed his mind and thought it should've been more severe.

 

[Easy Slips Catch]

I loved that photo of him in the paper where he had those massive triceps.

Good ad for the roids.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Coached Nth Footscray for at least a season.
Heard he copped so much crap from the sidelines that he gave it up.

This alone lends support to the modern "three strikes" approach, doesn't it.

To his credit when he got caught i´m sure he manned up and admitted it and apologised and didn´t come up with some bullshit excuse like they all do (spiked drink, hormones in chickens ect).

Or took them because his mum told him to.

 

[lemon chicken]

He coached Lilydale in the Eastern league maybe 2 or 3 seasons ago.

 

[Hodgepodge]

He went all holistic and he's doing acupuncture or some s**t these days.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I always wondered what happened to this guy

 

[jim boy]

The reason he did it was to get onto the football field. He was troubled by an injury and stupidly decided to take the risk.

And if you believe that piece of spin....

 

[Mofra]

Just a passionate bloke desperate to play footy.

True. I remember one game when he was at the Bulldogs, he leapt off the bench at one point and started to to wave his arms at the coaching box, trying to get the attention of the coach so he could go back on. He just loved his footy.

Turned down quite a bit of coin offered by US baseball scouts. It would have been AAA leagues as a minimum. Would have earned more in baseball than footy by all accounts.

 

[flamethrower]

True. I remember one game when he was at the Bulldogs, he leapt off the bench at one point and started to to wave his arms at the coaching box, trying to get the attention of the coach so he could go back on. He just loved his footy.

Turned down quite a bit of coin offered by US baseball scouts. It would have been AAA leagues as a minimum. Would have earned more in baseball than footy by all accounts.

I don't think so. Justin was playing in the Florida Marlins organisation, so he had already been signed, and it wasn't for a massive million dollar signing bonus like Glenn Williams. As for playing in the minors, you don't do it for the money.

JC is playing baseball at Wiiliamstown again after captain coaching Port Melbourne for a few years.

 

[FrankGrimes]

he was dating a friend of friend of mine years ago, was at her 21st ( he was about 30) and was carrying on like a complete nutcase....bloke is a d!ckhead...

 

[Admiral Byng]

The term 'drug cheat' wasn't entrenched in the public psyche like it is today.

?

Ben Johnson, 1988 Olympics.

 

[Ron The Bear]

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Ben Johnson, 1988 Olympics.

It was something that "only happens in other countries". The media blindly defended any Australian sportsperson who returned a positive drug test.

Stephen Mount (premiership CHB) claimed players in the 1980 side used steroids, and Brian Taylor said he was offered them while at Richmond. These claims, made in the 90's, weren't sensationalised by the media like they would be today.

 

[JoondalupJ]

True. I remember one game when he was at the Bulldogs, he leapt off the bench at one point and started to to wave his arms at the coaching box, trying to get the attention of the coach so he could go back on. He just loved his footy.

Turned down quite a bit of coin offered by US baseball scouts. It would have been AAA leagues as a minimum. Would have earned more in baseball than footy by all accounts.

Probably wouldn't have made it in Baseball USA style. Much much harder than you think to be a top level player in that game.
He was very unfortunate doing the steroid thing, and, had his career wrecked, when a few later "models" should have gone by the wayside before him.
I reckon too his passion and need to play footy drove him to "cure" that injury, whats the difference between that and getting injections before a match.
Hypocrasy reigns supreme in the sporting world because there are degrees in guilt in everything that goes on. When scientists still keep developing drugs that can't be detected what message does it send to any athlete "oh I'll try that just so I can do what I love, thats playing sport". We all know there are drug cheats and drug abusers. There is a difference, I can tell you. Trying to get muscle healthy again isn't to me some bleeding crime, but getting high and behaving like a crim or a drongo well thats another story.
If you are ever unfortunate enough to need an organ donation transplant check out the steroids jammed into the old body in the beginning of your recovery.You wouldn't get a game in the kindergarten backyard left overs.

 

[Slattery_20]

Side question - does anyone really believe that no AFL footballer in the 15 years since has done (performance enhancing) drugs?

 

[peejay]

Side question - does anyone really believe that no AFL footballer in the 15 years since has done (performance enhancing) drugs?

Well Dale lewis certainly did not think so - for that matter so did akermanis !!!

 

[Deep Blue]

Spoke to him several times some 5 or so years ago. Worked for his father's company (plumbing or electircal business) and had difficulty climbing ladders (almost crippled). Very genuine bloke and a real gentle giant - did go on a fair bit about alternative medicine and therapies though: almost obsessed with the subject.

 

[NQTIGER]

And if you believe that piece of spin....

Actually he bought them for a mate.....troll

 

[Hahndozer]

This alone lends support to the modern "three strikes" approach, doesn't it.




Or took them because his mum told him to.

Doesn't the three strike approach only apply to recreational drugs and not steroids and the like?

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Doesn't the three strike approach only apply to recreational drugs and not steroids and the like?

Who knows, nowadays?

 

[ausfatcat]

Doesn't the three strike approach only apply to recreational drugs and not steroids and the like?

Yes, if he was caught now he would probably face harsher penalities in line with the WADA rules and sanctions.

 

[Hawks88bestever]

Interesting point - it amazes me how little this period of Warne's career is mentioned these days. The "me Mum gave it to me" line was clearly a blatant lie, highly doubtful a professional sportsperson would knowingly ingest something without checking it out first.

Then there's the time he was receiving money for "pitch condition reports"...

We seem to gloss over the true facts about Warne - he was a drug cheat and a match-fixer. Brilliant cricketer but a cheat.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Amusing that this was asked by an Essendon fan, but it is a fair question. Aside from the ASADA investigation, which was actually brought about due to investigations by the ACC, the AFL was "clean" for years. Stretches believability, really.

Back in the 70s, steroids were available to footballers. Although there were always suspicions that they may be detrimental to future health, it wasn't illegal for sports people to use them if desired. I know of cases where coaches and boards were divided on whether they should use steroids to increase bulk and performance. I would have no doubt some players would have been on the sauce back then, but as I said, they weren't illegal.

By the time Justin Charles was found guilty, the landscape had changed.