Draft Watcher Knightmare's 2012 Mock Draft

[Andy_Mac]

If they bid on Viney can anyone seriously see us passing on Grundy/Whitfield? Particularly given I think GWS will finish last and take Grundy at 1, leaving Whitfield to "slip".

 

[Zagg]

If they bid on Viney can anyone seriously see us passing on Grundy/Whitfield? Particularly given I think GWS will finish last and take Grundy at 1, leaving Whitfield to "slip".

100% yes, I'm convinced you'll take Viney no matter what. I can't foresee a situation where you'd let him go, even if it meant missing out on Grundy or Whitfield.

 

[Damo80]

It's irrelevant what I believe or don't believe. I'm merely giving you the facts. You can please yourself what you do with them.

I'm really not interested in the fact they said it... I'm only interested in whether they meant it, and at this point in time I'd really doubt if even the Demons know what they'll do if someone bids early. But Melbourne fans throw it up, as though it's an iron clad guarantee (a "fact", if you like) that they won't take Viney with pick 3 because it's a fact that the club has said something to that effect. I just don't buy that it's as simple as that, and think Demon's fans are trying to talk themselves into this "I'd be happy to miss out on Viney" crap. For the sake of one or two draft places (assuming he's rated 5th best player in this year's batch) I'd be spewing if it was my club.

But at the risk of derailing KM's thread, I'd say we agree to disagree

 

[manny100]

As i said the agendas are out - big time going by the posts. Scwabe on radio today made it quite clear that Melbourne will pick according to ratings at the time of the draft. The only reason they signed JV was to avoid a mini draft situation. If we let him go go then we only lose the money he was paid under contract for the last two years. He sais JV is very aware of that.
Gee its footy, crap happens, if he is rated at our pick we will take him otherwise its Whitfield etc, Scwabe made it quite clear again today.
As i said its all about agendas. Scwabe also made it quite clear that it is a risk for a club to nominate JV if they do not rate him at that pick, ie we really are playing for sheep stations at the pointy end - gamblings not an option.
The MFC cannot pick JV based on emotion - that is a recipe for disaster and for those who readily fall in and out of love!!!!

 

[Trav 20]

I'm really not interested in the fact they said it... I'm only interested in whether they meant it, and at this point in time I'd really doubt if even the Demons know what they'll do if someone bids early. But Melbourne fans throw it up, as though it's an iron clad guarantee (a "fact", if you like) that they won't take Viney with pick 3 because it's a fact that the club has said something to that effect. I just don't buy that it's as simple as that, and think Demon's fans are trying to talk themselves into this "I'd be happy to miss out on Viney" crap. For the sake of one or two draft places (assuming he's rated 5th best player in this year's batch) I'd be spewing if it was my club.

But at the risk of derailing KM's thread, I'd say we agree to disagree

Agree to disagree on what ? I just gave you the facts. Did you read an "opinion" in what I wrote?

 

[Yoda_]

Really like your new second round selection for the Bombers KM.

Essendon are in need of more KPP's so i would not be immune to see us take a KPP (forward or back) in the second round as well (even after selecting Joey with our first pick)..

We have plenty of young midfielders (developing) on our list already, off the top of my hear, we have Michael Ross, Elliot Kavanagh, Jackson Merret, Trav Colyer as well as younger guys in the ones like Melksham and hopefully Heppel can push up into the midfield group.

We may look to select an inside midfielder to develop for down the track as we do have a couple of high production inside midfielders (Jobe Watson & Ben Howlett) but then a handful of b/c grade inside mids (Nathan Lovett - Murray, Sam Lonergan, David Myers who seems to be more a stop gap inside mid).

I would also love to see us select a utility type who can play anywhere, much like Lovett - Murray has done for us over the past couple of years in particular.(however, you might be able to help, could you see Nick O'Brien as a utility type whom Essendon selected in the third round last year, or is he more of only a forward)..

Having seen where our list is at KM, our needs are really for

1. KPP x 2 (we do seem to like our swingmen who can play both forward and back, see Jake Carlisle, Michael Hurley, Cale Hooker was drafted as a forward - for this reason, I would LOVE to see us have a look at Tom Lee from Claremont)
2. Ruckmen (even though we do have Joe Daniher coming in, I would love to see us draft one we can develop).
3. Small forward
4. Utility
5. Inside midfielders

 

[Knightmare]

Really like your new second round selection for the Bombers KM.

Essendon are in need of more KPP's so i would not be immune to see us take a KPP (forward or back) in the second round as well (even after selecting Joey with our first pick)..

We have plenty of young midfielders (developing) on our list already, off the top of my hear, we have Michael Ross, Elliot Kavanagh, Jackson Merret, Trav Colyer as well as younger guys in the ones like Melksham and hopefully Heppel can push up into the midfield group.

We may look to select an inside midfielder to develop for down the track as we do have a couple of high production inside midfielders (Jobe Watson & Ben Howlett) but then a handful of b/c grade inside mids (Nathan Lovett - Murray, Sam Lonergan, David Myers who seems to be more a stop gap inside mid).

I would also love to see us select a utility type who can play anywhere, much like Lovett - Murray has done for us over the past couple of years in particular.(however, you might be able to help, could you see Nick O'Brien as a utility type whom Essendon selected in the third round last year, or is he more of only a forward)..

Having seen where our list is at KM, our needs are really for

1. KPP x 2 (we do seem to like our swingmen who can play both forward and back, see Jake Carlisle, Michael Hurley, Cale Hooker was drafted as a forward - for this reason, I would LOVE to see us have a look at Tom Lee from Claremont)
2. Ruckmen (even though we do have Joe Daniher coming in, I would love to see us draft one we can develop).
3. Small forward
4. Utility
5. Inside midfielders

Will keep the KPP needs in mind for Essendon. In the 2nd round there probably won't be a great deal of value available but perhaps later on someone slips through.

After Grundy there just aren't the ruck options. McBean could be a ruck option at his height if available but won't ever be a power ruckman.

Otherwise it's pretty much wait it out till the rookie draft.

Small forwards can always be added late draft/ rookie. Plenty of options. Anthony Tipungwuti, Anthony Bonnaddio, Marvin Warrell and Jarrod Stokes would be some others I'd look at.

As utilities Jackson Thurlow might be an option mid draft. Matthew Haynes as a quicker tall outside utility can play back and some forward. Cameron Banfield, Nic Amato and Mason Wood might be some later draft options who could also be worth looking at also with versatility.

As inside mids Nathan Hrovat, Jesse Lonergan and Nathan Stark could be worth looking at 2nd round and beyond.


I'm guessing with Tom Lee you heard about the 12 mark, 7 goal game too? His numbers are looking good this year and continues to improve so you might be onto something.

 

[Yoda_]

Will keep the KPP needs in mind for Essendon. In the 2nd round there probably won't be a great deal of value available but perhaps later on someone slips through.

After Grundy there just aren't the ruck options. McBean could be a ruck option at his height if available but won't ever be a power ruckman.

Otherwise it's pretty much wait it out till the rookie draft.

Small forwards can always be added late draft/ rookie. Plenty of options. Anthony Tipungwuti, Anthony Bonnaddio, Marvin Warrell and Jarrod Stokes would be some others I'd look at.

As utilities Jackson Thurlow might be an option mid draft. Matthew Haynes as a quicker tall outside utility can play back and some forward. Cameron Banfield, Nic Amato and Mason Wood might be some later draft options who could also be worth looking at also with versatility.

As inside mids Nathan Hrovat, Jesse Lonergan and Nathan Stark could be worth looking at 2nd round and beyond.


I'm guessing with Tom Lee you heard about the 12 mark, 7 goal game too? His numbers are looking good this year and continues to improve so you might be onto something.

I know you (along with Chris and now Tigs) have gone through this a number of times, but are there really NO other ruckmen worth mentioning? Even ones that you could stick on the rookie list because that is where they need to grow the most these days.

Word out there is that Dean Putt (yes the former Richmond player who Essendon were going to draft before the Tigs poached him two picks prior to us selection Cale Hooker) are very interested in him and thus the reason for him playing at Aberfeldie in the Essendon District Football League along as a top up player with the Bendigo Gold with out VFL team who has put in some really strong games, was BOg in our earlier win against Casey in a very depleted Bendigo side. There is another young guy by the name of Michael Sikora who has dominated the hitouts at times this year for Sandringham, pity he is only averaging something like 8 possessions per game, he is young in terms of ruckmen also. I think we will look to add a ruckmen, a kid, 19/20 y.o (how has Bolger gone this year by the way?) to develop, Id prefer us to go this way rather than log jamb our ruckmen all being in that same age group (TBC 22, Ryder is 24, Hille is 30).

i would love for us to add a genuine small forward, not a make shift one in the Kyle Reimers mould (a midfielder we are playing as a small forward) but a genuine crumber, like jeffy Garlett.

The utility type I am talking about is that Nathan Lovett - Murray mould who can play anywhere, tall or small, forward or back, can you give me some more info on Banfield & amato? havent seen there names thrown around yet, so curious.

As for the inside mids you mentioned, the other one i would love to see is one I have spoken to you about is Jason Pongracic who kicked 4 goals playing forward yesterday for Dandenong. Mate umpired them and said he was awesome. kicked a stunning goal on the run from 30 after busting a couple of tackles just to highlight his strength in the contest. i could definitely see Essendon picking Lonergan purely on the back of his uncle being at Essendon (people suggesting romanticism does not exist anymore are either blind or stupid, it still is), as for Hrovat, surely he will go inside the top 20? his production outside of the champs has been up there with the best.

As for Tom Lee's stellar game against Swan Districts, yeah heard about it, have got someone sending me a copy of the game that's how interested i am to see how bloody good he was.. Article came out during the week about Frankston's in demand key forward Khan Haretuku suggesting up to half a dozen clubs are looking at him, and that it also tells of Ross Lyon telling Khan he was "not good enough and won't make it" because he "does not have enough talent". So there is another player to keep in mind when doing the later stages of your draft KM.

But i would definitely keep Tom Lee as an option for a national draft pick, his numbers in the past month has been extraordinary.

 

[Chris25]

Tom Lee is so last year. Better late than never to jump on though.

 

[Yoda_]

Tom Lee is so last year. Better late than never to jump on though.

Anyone your keen on from the state leagues in SA Christoff?

Seen people are talking up Duffy a bit (even though he is from WA), but anyone from SA that are really demanding selection?

 

[blueiris]

knightmare you seemed to have forgoten Laine Wilkins do you not rate him if not. Why not inside football has rated him as going in the first round

 

[Chris25]

Anyone your keen on from the state leagues in SA Christoff?

Seen people are talking up Duffy a bit (even though he is from WA), but anyone from SA that are really demanding selection?

Duffy was one of my guys last year. Talent wise, he should have gone in the second round. Crazy that nobody rookied him.

Most of the guys from SA are your solid half back types - Spurr, Pfeiffer, Duigan. No doubt some of those solid older types will finally get a chance, but SANFL takes a back seat to U18 football for me. Sp most of the ones I like are guys who were overlooked last year (Hender, Raikiwasa, Gallard, Langford), along with a couple of new recruits from interstate. But I've probably mentioned them all already.

 

[Yoda_]

Duffy was one of my guys last year. Talent wise, he should have gone in the second round. Crazy that nobody rookied him.

Most of the guys from SA are your solid half back types - Spurr, Pfeiffer, Duigan. No doubt some of those solid older types will finally get a chance, but SANFL takes a back seat to U18 football for me. Sp most of the ones I like are guys who were overlooked last year (Hender, Raikiwasa, Gallard, Langford), along with a couple of new recruits from interstate. But I've probably mentioned them all already.

Has this guy been in the seniors team or stuck in the reserves this year? you were big on him last year for a mid round selection..

 

[Chris25]

Majority of the season has been in the league side, and he has been playing quite well too. He had a few things to work on to make it at AFL level, but the reason I liked him was because he would stop at nothing to get better. And he looks to have done that already.

 

[Knightmare]

I know you (along with Chris and now Tigs) have gone through this a number of times, but are there really NO other ruckmen worth mentioning? Even ones that you could stick on the rookie list because that is where they need to grow the most these days.

Word out there is that Dean Putt (yes the former Richmond player who Essendon were going to draft before the Tigs poached him two picks prior to us selection Cale Hooker) are very interested in him and thus the reason for him playing at Aberfeldie in the Essendon District Football League along as a top up player with the Bendigo Gold with out VFL team who has put in some really strong games, was BOg in our earlier win against Casey in a very depleted Bendigo side. There is another young guy by the name of Michael Sikora who has dominated the hitouts at times this year for Sandringham, pity he is only averaging something like 8 possessions per game, he is young in terms of ruckmen also. I think we will look to add a ruckmen, a kid, 19/20 y.o (how has Bolger gone this year by the way?) to develop, Id prefer us to go this way rather than log jamb our ruckmen all being in that same age group (TBC 22, Ryder is 24, Hille is 30).

i would love for us to add a genuine small forward, not a make shift one in the Kyle Reimers mould (a midfielder we are playing as a small forward) but a genuine crumber, like jeffy Garlett.

The utility type I am talking about is that Nathan Lovett - Murray mould who can play anywhere, tall or small, forward or back, can you give me some more info on Banfield & amato? havent seen there names thrown around yet, so curious.

As for the inside mids you mentioned, the other one i would love to see is one I have spoken to you about is Jason Pongracic who kicked 4 goals playing forward yesterday for Dandenong. Mate umpired them and said he was awesome. kicked a stunning goal on the run from 30 after busting a couple of tackles just to highlight his strength in the contest. i could definitely see Essendon picking Lonergan purely on the back of his uncle being at Essendon (people suggesting romanticism does not exist anymore are either blind or stupid, it still is), as for Hrovat, surely he will go inside the top 20? his production outside of the champs has been up there with the best.

As for Tom Lee's stellar game against Swan Districts, yeah heard about it, have got someone sending me a copy of the game that's how interested i am to see how bloody good he was.. Article came out during the week about Frankston's in demand key forward Khan Haretuku suggesting up to half a dozen clubs are looking at him, and that it also tells of Ross Lyon telling Khan he was "not good enough and won't make it" because he "does not have enough talent". So there is another player to keep in mind when doing the later stages of your draft KM.

But i would definitely keep Tom Lee as an option for a national draft pick, his numbers in the past month has been extraordinary.

I haven't seen/ heard allot about Bogler this year. I assume he has missed some time with injury. The few games he has taken part in numbers have been average. It will come down to what he does in this final part of the year. Just not the same depth this year through the draft. Probably a next year job or rookie draft thing to look into. No standouts beyond Grundy. Usually there are a few who have standout attributes but I'm not seeing it in any of the other options with McBean the only other who has to some extent shown some.

Do you have any measurements on Michael Sikora?

Banfield is a highly skilled type who can play mid, back or forward - foot skills and composure stand out.

Amato is more of a shutdown player who can win his own ball. Tough type with excellent endurance who you can stick anywhere and he'll compete for you.

I didn't mention Pongracic because I expect him to go early - mid 2nd round and before the Essendon 2nd round selection. Chance he is available but not highly likely at this stage. Doesn't mean you can't look out for potential sliders though.

Hrovat as a smaller type without pace might not get looked upon super favourably and isn't the typical fashionable selection. Don't think he will test super well. But I agree with you that he should be a top 20 selection. The guy can play right away and have never seen him play a poor game. Just a real footballer who competes and has every aspect of the game covered. Has the body of a 22 year old and plays like it. Looking at pictures he looks to be the same height as Jack Viney if not slightly taller despite his measurements so it will be interesting to see how he measures in at the end of the season.

I haven't seen a whole lot of Khan Haretuku other than in the state game but that was enough of a taste for me to put him on my state league watchlist and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a club take a chance on him. Ross Lyon while I consider him a clear top 5 league coach I've never rated his talent evaluation. I wouldn't be too concerned about any of his comments re. Haretuku.

I agree with you on Lee. If he can continue to produce the way he has in recent weeks there is no reason why he can't go in the national draft.

 

[Yoda_]

Sikora is 206cm, 102kg, 26.1.1989, played for the Melbourne Tigers under 18 basketball team, so this 23 y.o has come on in leaps and bounds in his short time in the AFL scene, as supported by his selection in the VFL Academy.

Stats are here

 

[Knightmare]

knightmare you seemed to have forgoten Laine Wilkins do you not rate him if not. Why not inside football has rated him as going in the first round

Hasn't impressed me. Felt his final game of the champs was an outlier. Wilkins has incredible pace for a medium forward and has a great leap on him. For a medium size opportunist forward not clean enough for my liking. Has some talent but not enough substance for my liking. Tackling game should be allot better for someone with his pace
and needs a few more tricks outside of his athleticism.

Late/rookie selection for mine. Have him in my 3rd round right now. Would be very surprised to see him go 1st round to be honest. I'm not seeing it.

 

[Knightmare]

Sikora is 206cm, 102kg, 26.1.1989, played for the Melbourne Tigers under 18 basketball team, so this 23 y.o has come on in leaps and bounds in his short time in the AFL scene, as supported by his selection in the VFL Academy.

Stats are here

Always room for size.

Hitout numbers promising and in talls it's that quick improvement I look for so that sounds positive. Are many of those taps to advantage? If so then we might have something.

How is his pace, agility + leap?

Tackling numbers interesting and looks to have more potential to improve in that regard.

Going by the stats he will need to do more around the ground and add some more tricks - maybe learn to go forward and take some more marks and hit the scoreboard or just add something else to his game.

Haven't seen him play as far as I know but will make an effort to look out for him over this last little bit.

 

[Yoda_]

Always room for size.

Hitout numbers promising and in talls it's that quick improvement I look for so that sounds positive. Are many of those taps to advantage? If so then we might have something.

How is his pace, agility + leap?

Tackling numbers interesting and looks to have more potential to improve in that regard.

Going by the stats he will need to do more around the ground and add some more tricks - maybe learn to go forward and take some more marks and hit the scoreboard or just add something else to his game.

Haven't seen him play as far as I know but will make an effort to look out for him over this last little bit.

There is a short 6.5 minute clip on youtube with some highlights from last year.

I saw him earlier in the year and he was alright against Bendigo. To be fair, we did not have a ruckmen (we had Essendon's fitness coach in as our ruckmen), dominated the hitouts, 45 to be exact, if i remember correctly, tried to tap to advantage, looked fairly agile and mobile for a big man. Id have to go back and look at the tapes to rejig the old memory bank..

 

[Knightmare]

There is a short 6.5 minute clip on youtube with some highlights from last year.

I saw him earlier in the year and he was alright against Bendigo. To be fair, we did not have a ruckmen (we had Essendon's fitness coach in as our ruckmen), dominated the hitouts, 45 to be exact, if i remember correctly, tried to tap to advantage, looked fairly agile and mobile for a big man. Id have to go back and look at the tapes to rejig the old memory bank..

Looks like he could do with some more strength through the legs. Would also like to see him become allot stronger with his marking and really put some time into it.

Would have to see him this year to see what sort of progress he has made and to have a better idea of what I'm looking at though. Would want to really stand out with his tap work if he wants to get drafted next year. But anyone at that height is worth a look.

 

[tigs2010]

I know you (along with Chris and now Tigs) have gone through this a number of times, but are there really NO other ruckmen worth mentioning? Even ones that you could stick on the rookie list because that is where they need to grow the most these days.

Word out there is that Dean Putt (yes the former Richmond player who Essendon were going to draft before the Tigs poached him two picks prior to us selection Cale Hooker) are very interested in him and thus the reason for him playing at Aberfeldie in the Essendon District Football League along as a top up player with the Bendigo Gold with out VFL team who has put in some really strong games, was BOg in our earlier win against Casey in a very depleted Bendigo side. There is another young guy by the name of Michael Sikora who has dominated the hitouts at times this year for Sandringham, pity he is only averaging something like 8 possessions per game, he is young in terms of ruckmen also. I think we will look to add a ruckmen, a kid, 19/20 y.o (how has Bolger gone this year by the way?) to develop, Id prefer us to go this way rather than log jamb our ruckmen all being in that same age group (TBC 22, Ryder is 24, Hille is 30).

i would love for us to add a genuine small forward, not a make shift one in the Kyle Reimers mould (a midfielder we are playing as a small forward) but a genuine crumber, like jeffy Garlett.

The utility type I am talking about is that Nathan Lovett - Murray mould who can play anywhere, tall or small, forward or back, can you give me some more info on Banfield & amato? havent seen there names thrown around yet, so curious.

As for the inside mids you mentioned, the other one i would love to see is one I have spoken to you about is Jason Pongracic who kicked 4 goals playing forward yesterday for Dandenong. Mate umpired them and said he was awesome. kicked a stunning goal on the run from 30 after busting a couple of tackles just to highlight his strength in the contest. i could definitely see Essendon picking Lonergan purely on the back of his uncle being at Essendon (people suggesting romanticism does not exist anymore are either blind or stupid, it still is), as for Hrovat, surely he will go inside the top 20? his production outside of the champs has been up there with the best.

As for Tom Lee's stellar game against Swan Districts, yeah heard about it, have got someone sending me a copy of the game that's how interested i am to see how bloody good he was.. Article came out during the week about Frankston's in demand key forward Khan Haretuku suggesting up to half a dozen clubs are looking at him, and that it also tells of Ross Lyon telling Khan he was "not good enough and won't make it" because he "does not have enough talent". So there is another player to keep in mind when doing the later stages of your draft KM.

But i would definitely keep Tom Lee as an option for a national draft pick, his numbers in the past month has been extraordinary.

I'd say Pierce and Prowse are the other 2 youngsters that could go late. I know teams are looking at Prowse. Pierce reminds me of Angus Graham and it makes me cringe. Bolger seems to have really stagnated. Can't really see him going this year unless he has a massive finish to the year.

Not sure if its romanticism in football or its more the fact you can get a very good feel for a players character as well as their ability to settle in as an interstater. Wouldn't surprise to see Brendan Verrier on our list if available late because a) he fills a need and b) his brother is a bit homesick.

Would love Tom Lee for us as an athletic CHF that's ready to go. He'd be better than McGuane/Miller. Shhhh Haretuku will go. Haven't seen Sikora play but he certainly sounds intriguing. Those big basketball blokes seem to go pretty well, have excellent co-ordination and develop quickly. Maybe we will have a crack after we missed Joe Ingles a few years ago.

 

[SumTingWong]

I'd say Pierce and Prowse are the other 2 youngsters that could go late. I know teams are looking at Prowse. Pierce reminds me of Angus Graham and it makes me cringe. Bolger seems to have really stagnated. Can't really see him going this year unless he has a massive finish to the year.

Not sure if its romanticism in football or its more the fact you can get a very good feel for a players character as well as their ability to settle in as an interstater. Wouldn't surprise to see Brendan Verrier on our list if available late because a) he fills a need and b) his brother is a bit homesick.

Would love Tom Lee for us as an athletic CHF that's ready to go. He'd be better than McGuane/Miller. Shhhh Haretuku will go. Haven't seen Sikora play but he certainly sounds intriguing. Those big basketball blokes seem to go pretty well, have excellent co-ordination and develop quickly. Maybe we will have a crack after we missed Joe Ingles a few years ago.

Absolutely. I saw him play for Clarmeont vz Port Melbourne yesterday.....what a talent! Any reasons as to why he hasn't been drafted as yet?

 

[Demonheart]

I'm really not interested in the fact they said it... I'm only interested in whether they meant it, and at this point in time I'd really doubt if even the Demons know what they'll do if someone bids early. But Melbourne fans throw it up, as though it's an iron clad guarantee (a "fact", if you like) that they won't take Viney with pick 3 because it's a fact that the club has said something to that effect. I just don't buy that it's as simple as that, and think Demon's fans are trying to talk themselves into this "I'd be happy to miss out on Viney" crap. For the sake of one or two draft places (assuming he's rated 5th best player in this year's batch) I'd be spewing if it was my club.

But at the risk of derailing KM's thread, I'd say we agree to disagree

You're forgetting one thing, or rather, one person. Mark Neeld will have the final say and he has absolutely no emotional ties with Jack Viney, all he wants is the best player available. Jack viney has also been told that it is not definite that he will end up at Melbourne.

Let's say that the teams finish in the current order. Do you honestly believe that GWS will use pick #1 on Viney? Seriously? I don't think so, by the look of their list they desperately need Grundy, it is highly unlikely they'll go for Viney instead.

That leaves GCS, who don't have a Sheedy working for them, someone who wants to stick it to Melbourne no matter what it costs his club. Let's say they do bid on Viney, that means Melbourne has the choice on Whitfield or Viney, meaning even though we have a pick after them, we're in control. Can you imagine picking up Whitfield and Toumpas in this draft? That's the scenario coming up for us.
Regardless I just can't see GCS letting Whitfield slip to #3, it just doesn't make sense to not go for the best player just to spite another club (unless you're Sheedy). Just because all the other supporters are desperate for them to bid for Viney doesn't mean it will happen, they'll do whatever is best for the own club.

 

[tigs2010]

Absolutely. I saw him play for Clarmeont vz Port Melbourne yesterday.....what a talent! Any reasons as to why he hasn't been drafted as yet?

He actually has been. Was on Adelaide's list for a year (2009??) and was delisted early. That could be counting against him. From memory, Knightmare and Chris would know better but he may have played as a ruck a bit last year and he's only about 192-193cm.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

I'd rather Viney than Whitfield.