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Jamara isn’t competing with Bruce, Naughton or English for a role in the 22. He doesn’t have the strength to play KPF at this stage. Why do we need to debut him as a KPF?
He is competing with Hannan for the medium tall role this year. Hannan still gets targeted and plays his role keeping the defence as separated as possible. Jamara was knackered after his third effort in a quarter.... we still debuted Buku Khamis, who appeared fitter than Jamara BUT he spent most of the last quarter on the bench.
The other thing that you must consider, is that so far Jamara’s last shot at a debut was against the Tigers @mcg. That sounded to me like a Jack Watts debut versus Collingwood situation. Those Tigers defenders scragged, tackled, held, punched and harassed our senior forwards way off the ball (like they always do). Something that those forwards learned from and are now structuring up differently as a result. Imagine that was Jamara. He would have been pummelled head first into the turf (like Bruce/Naughton). How is that not Jack Watts versus Collingwood all over again?
Schache played that game ahead of Jamara, as Schache was clearly playing better at VFL level than him. Clearly better. Anyone who watched those matches could see that. Jamara looked awesome but he couldn’t keep himself involved due to fitness issues.
I am a big fan of Jamara BUT we have a flag to win. Thanks to Collingwood generosity, our 5/6th best midfielder is Treloar and he is awesome. This isn’t a bottom team desperate to show their supporters hope OR provide a boost to on field play. We don’t need that. We do need a player who can win 2 contests a quarter (Hannan’s role) and be dangerous enough to demand an opponent.
Can Jamara be part of the win? Yes but he needs to be able to play 60% of an AFL game, which currently he can’t because he hasn’t played a full VFL game for weeks.
I expect Jamara will be given a shot versus North or similar later in the year. Beverage has shown that he will play kids, give them a taste and give them feedback about their game so that they can improve and take the next step. He has done this successfully with multiple players.... Bailey Dale being the latest example. Dale should easily be AA this year, massive meters gained, best kicker in the league (using expected result versus actual result, which is the best measure) and gets involved up the field to kick goals or deliver into 50. Dale spent lots of time improving his game in the VFL. We aren’t as extreme as the Hawks in getting young players up to standard in the VFL (who can then play AFL when ready) but we do follow a similar system. A player has to earn a spot.
Hi KM where do you think Jye Amiss. From WA will get drafted. He is the leading goal kicker ahead of Jack William's in WAFL Colts but no one has him in their top 20 or 25
Any thoughts?
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Hi KM
at what range would you have Jye Amiss and Rhett Bazzo in?
Bombers supporters started rumours prior to him be drafted.... some even stated events were going to happen even before Jamara confirmed he was committed to the Bulldogs. It’s all recorded on forums, not just BigFooty.com. This isn’t a new thing about the bombers being decent, it’s been going on for over a year. Some of the recent quotes attributed to Jamara were first written last year.... The lack of research and then realisation that these quotes are most likely made up, rarely occurs to most. It’s all so much bullsh!t, with no accountability.
I will repeat, this has been going on for more than 1 year.... it’s nothing to do with how well the Bombers are going right now. Bombers have a good coach & are finally started playing players in their true positions.... so are playing better as team. I still don’t understand why Stringer plays midfield but then the inside mid cupboard is bare. On paper, it’s the best list outside the top 8.
I will make a final point about Jamara:
The Bulldogs still have to agree to trade him. Why would they?
Bulldogs wanted two top 10 picks for Dunkley who requested a trade last year (which I actually think is about the right price for Dunkley, very happy we didn’t trade him). Jamara would be valued even higher. To get T Boyd (a ruckman being played out of position as a Forward), we paid our captain (R Griffin) and pick 6. Now, that is a comparison of a similar number 1 pick moving during his first contract.... so a senior player that the Giants offered pick 4 to secure plus pick 6 (& we paid the final year of Griffins contract).
Which team is going to pay 2 top 6 picks to get Jamara? Who is going to pay that?
Dogs won’t trade Jamara and will back their systems to turn him into a long term Star, even IF he requested a move. Dunkley is reportedly about to extend his contract this year.... his bromance with Treloar is going along nicely!
Pay wall.Knightmare have you read this article ?
WAFL colts mid-season team
Draft writer Jordan McArdle picks his mid-season team of the year in the WAFL colts, filled with AFL hopefuls eligible for this year’s draft and next.thewest.com.au
Knightmare have you read this article ?
WAFL colts mid-season team
Draft writer Jordan McArdle picks his mid-season team of the year in the WAFL colts, filled with AFL hopefuls eligible for this year’s draft and next.thewest.com.au
I actually like Jye Amiss the most of WA keys in that he just wills himself on the contest.
You think he is not going to get there to a contest, then he leaps spills the pack and takes the mark.
He also has a good very tank, and is a wonderful set shot on goal.
The other part of his game is his chasing defensive side he works his arse of in that regard.
Luke Polson is amazing below his knee's for a tall and is very mobile plays like a mid at times
I actually like Jye Amiss the most of WA keys in that he just wills himself on the contest.
You think he is not going to get there to a contest, then he leaps spills the pack and takes the mark.
He also has a good very tank, and is a wonderful set shot on goal.
The other part of his game is his chasing defensive side he works his arse of in that regard.
Luke Polson is amazing below his knee's for a tall and is very mobile plays like a mid at times
Was wondering why people don't rate amiss. have never seen him but his stats are amazing currently. Is he too short for a KPF?
Decent height at 195cm. Athletic.
Stats good for the level he's playing but not early draft standard. His stats/scoreboard impact is helped by playing at least from what I've seen exclusively i50 as that closest to goal option and because he's on the top ranked side.
He should be in the draft mix and his stocks have improved over his past two games with x2 five goal hauls. I'm not seeing dominant on a level where I'd be saying he's an early pick though. I'm open to moving him up my board though as he improves and adds to his game though.
I actually like Jye Amiss the most of WA keys in that he just wills himself on the contest.
You think he is not going to get there to a contest, then he leaps spills the pack and takes the mark.
He also has a good very tank, and is a wonderful set shot on goal.
The other part of his game is his chasing defensive side he works his arse of in that regard.
Luke Polson is amazing below his knee's for a tall and is very mobile plays like a mid at times
2020 AFL Draft re-done mid 2021:
Can't say I have, and now the mandatory 28 day subscription has passed on my The West subscription I have cancelled.
What are the key takeaways?
Knightmare Hearing Tigers are keen on Ned Long. What are the chances he falls to one of our picks? We're also looking at trading into the first round by packaging second rounders together.
Should we end up with 3 firsts, what are the chances that we could get all 3 of Long, Van Rooyen and Gibcus?
Looking at this years draft is it considered strong say Brisbane traded next year’s first round pick could we pick up 3 highly talented players with next years first highly likely to be swallowed up with a bid on Will Ashcroft
Catching up on this, and you're actually taking the piss with your rating and comments on Tom Powell. Just state you haven't watched him and move on, mate. To say that you don't see the same upside as the others when he's outperforming pretty much all of them despite being a skinny kid is silly to say the absolute least.
But yeah, 17th sure, checks out, especially when most of the players ahead of him in these rankings are 2nd/3rd-year players.
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Oh, we're rubbish so I get why you wouldn't want to watch us, but it's obvious in your analysis of Powell. Particularly his vision inside the contest and skills project to be elite if you watch him regularly.With how uncompetitive North Melbourne are, they're the side I'm watching the least this year.
Other than watching all preseason matches, I've only bothered watching two North Melbourne games this season.
What do you view Powell's upside as being? Will he be a future All-Australian? Multi-year All-Australian? Of my first three tiers, would you include Powell in tier 1 (only my top-4 talls are in there at this point), 2 (no room for any pure mids at this point with no star mids or multi-year All-Australian calibre pieces presently from last years pool) or 3 (where I have him)?
I have Powell as per in the video in that third tier and he's not one I'm going to get carried away with. I believe he'll be a good mid as I'm sure all do, but I'm not seeing the weapons I am with a number of the others. You're right he does have further physical development to go through and he can take on possibly as soon as next year a more prominent midfield role, so he can definitely continue improving his spot on my board, and particularly if a lot of the talls don't come along as quick as expected, but we're all at this stage going to have particular players we favour at this point over others. It's conceivable on the other side of the equation a Macrae, Bruhn, McInnes or Poulter push past him, with that group for me broadly for me at least in the same tier.
For me at least, last year's draft is all about the very top end talls. I'm seeing good mids, but there aren't any at this point I see as likely in the future to be elite. So I'm broadly critical of the mids from last years draft. They don't stack up compared to recent years or years past, which is why I don't have any inside my top-10 other than Phillips (who has dropped down to tier three) who I continue to hold out hope on and will be re-evaluating based on early 2022 form assuming a full preseason to see if I have to bump him down further. But at this stage there aren't any midfielders I'm looking at with confidence and feeling like can be All-Australian calibre or among the best two mids on their team. Are you? That can change for me with time and development and probably will, but I'm not seeing at this point at least.
Knightmare Do you think teams are already looking at draft strategy? Wouldn't they just be sticking to scouting and building draft board for now?
Oh, we're rubbish so I get why you wouldn't want to watch us, but it's obvious in your analysis of Powell. Particularly his vision inside the contest and skills project to be elite if you watch him regularly.
So much of his upside comes in his scope for physical development. His ability to win the footy, his vision by hand and foot both inside and outside the contest, and his skills, especially by hand, are better than every other player you listed. When he has the physical capacity to match his mental capacity, he'll be able to apply those attributes more effectively for longer and at more contests while also physically matching up conditioned bodies. He projects to absolutely be a mid that will be in regular AA contention when he matures on exposed form.
And yeah, as far as those in your arbitrary tiers above him, atm on the available evidence I'm taking Powell over everyone in your second tier with the caveat that obviously Hollands hasn't played league footy yet. I genuinely don't understand how you can justify having Jones, Campbell and a MSD ruckman a tier ahead of Powell tbh, let alone Perkins, Reid and Callow in particular ranked ahead of him in the third tier.
That's because he's already his executing his disposal by hand at an AFL elite level. It's strange to mark him down for something that he's already doing better than 90% of the AFL as a first year player, if that's what you're doing. As he develops the physical capacity to attend more contests and match it physically with bigger bodies, he'll have the opportunity to use those skills more frequently.Powell's distribution by hand hasn't just developed this year, he was sensational by hand also last year. Not sure I'd go as far as to say his skills project to be elite, but I can keep an eye out for what he does by foot next time I'm watching North as he wasn't damaging last year by foot when I watched him, albeit he was neat and tidy by foot I'd be more inclined to say.
Fine. I just don't agree that Powell's ceiling is any lower, particularly lower than Lachie Jones or Campbell. It's the same, if not higher imo. I think you're underrating Powell's ceiling, but again so much of that is speculation and projection and personal opinion. If you have two players, one with a ceiling of 10 and a floor of 2, and one with a ceiling of 9 and a floor of 6, I'm talking the second player 99 times out of 100.Edwards as with Callow from the MSD I rate in the same tier as Powell as tier 3 players, and for me they're slightly higher ceiling and slightly more desirably due to relative positional scarcities. The tier two group I favoured because they're players I'm seeing as having multi-year All-Australian capabilities, with the added bonus of respectively each having the versatility to be multi-positional impact players, but I'm fully aware most won't necessarily rate any of those guys as high as I would at this point when the likes of Gulden and Powell in particular have gotten off to such hot starts, and that's just my own projecting ahead.
That's because he's already his executing his disposal by hand at an AFL elite level. It's strange to mark him down for something that he's already doing better than 90% of the AFL as a first year player, if that's what you're doing. As he develops the physical capacity to attend more contests and match it physically with bigger bodies, he'll have the opportunity to use those skills more frequently.
I misspoke slightly. I think he's a good kick, not necessarily an elite technical kick. But his vision and decision making elevate him to be an elite disposer of the footy, if that makes sense. And especially inside the contest. His vision, decision making and ability to execute by hand in traffic is genuinely remarkable. Again, skills that will be able to be more consistently applied as he physically develops.
Fine. I just don't agree that Powell's ceiling is any lower, particularly lower than Lachie Jones or Campbell. It's the same, if not higher imo. I think you're underrating Powell's ceiling, but again so much of that is speculation and projection and personal opinion. If you have two players, one with a ceiling of 10 and a floor of 2, and one with a ceiling of 9 and a floor of 6, I'm talking the second player 99 times out of 100.
Hi KM,
With saints likely to finish bottom 6, are there any notable inside mids with acceleration and goal kicking ability? Wouldn't mind a Bailey Smith type mid on our list.
Additionally, are there any quality key backs in the mould of May/Barrass available in the draft. If so, where are they likely to go in the draft?
Keep up the good work.