Player Watch Lcoemwe to Port Adelaide Ivan Soldo

[TeeKray]

Second game in a row he's started slowly and then got better and better as the game went on.

 

[davesnothere]

All heart.

We got lucky.

 

[Andyy]

I think he beat Nank personally, and I'm not surprised.

I wish Nank wasn't captain. I'd rather have kept Soldo and even now I'd consider playing Naismith ahead of him.

All heart.

We got lucky.

Not luck mate, PA did their due diligence and got a good player who has been second fiddle in a dynasty era.

What's not to love about a big, strong, friendly giant who gives 100%?

We used to love Ivan Maric for the same reason.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Was okay today but anything less than dropping his pants, bending over and handing Nank a bottle of lube would've been an improvement on what our last three rucks offered against him.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Another good game from Soldo.

Lets see what he can do against the Gawn this week.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Wouldn't surprise me if he delivers for Port this year, like what Aliir delivered in his first year with Port in 2021.

I'm talking output. Probably no chance of being named in All Oz team, might make AA40 squad, but like Aliir I can see him being named in in the top 10 even top 5 in the B&F voting. Just checked, Aliir was 3rd behind Ollie and Boaky in 2021.

 

[Andyy]

Another good game from Soldo.

Lets see what he can do against the Gawn this week.

I think he'll hold his own.

He has previously and whenever we played against teams with monster rucks I always wanted Soldo in the side. He's a physical beast.

He's played vs Gawn twice only though.

First time Soldo had 14 HO from 62% game time, 13 touches, 1 goal, 4 tackles, 5 clearances.
Gawn 26 HO from 86% TOG, 19 touches, no score, 1 tackle, 1 clearance, and somehow came away with 2 Brownlow votes lol.

Last time they lined up together Soldo had 26 HO from 80% TOG, 10 disp, 1 goal, 5 clearances and 6 tackles.
Gawn who was BOG/3 brownies with 40 HO from 89% TOG, 28 disp, 1 tackle, 11 clearances and 1 behind.

Beaten but not smashed IMO.

 

[jackag24]

Does anyone else love the way Soldo actually taps the ball into the path of our mids to run onto?

Apparently it's called a hitout.. to.. advantage? Have you ever seen a RUCKMAN do that?!

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Does anyone else love the way Soldo actually taps the ball into the path of our mids to run onto?

Apparently it's called a hitout.. to.. advantage? Have you ever seen a RUCKMAN do that?!

I like it. I like it a lot.

 

[sobrave]

Does anyone else love the way Soldo actually taps the ball into the path of our mids to run onto?

Apparently it's called a hitout.. to.. advantage? Have you ever seen a RUCKMAN do that?!

Saw a guy called Sam Hayes do it once or twice.

Lobbe was brilliant at getting it down the throat of the oppositions best mid.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Paddy Ryder was league best at it until we decided that "looks tough" was a more important quality in a ruckman than "is good" and brought Lycett in.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Does anyone else love the way Soldo actually taps the ball into the path of our mids to run onto?

Apparently it's called a hitout.. to.. advantage? Have you ever seen a RUCKMAN do that?!

Not our mids, who seem to more often than not, fail to run onto the ball but are looking around Ivan's bootlaces.

Some unlearning to be done.

 

[Andyy]

Any love for the big fella this week?

Didn't watch it unfortunately but the stats look decent.

Bummed, I picked Port.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Any love for the big fella this week?

Didn't watch it unfortunately but the stats look decent.

Bummed, I picked Port.

I thought he was pretty good. I think most people think Gawn smacked him but he needs to spend more time working with the mids as he does get his hand on the ball enough. He worked well around the ground but just not to the extent of Max but he's a beast in that way.

 

[raptalia]

Soldo is not up to single handedly carrying our rucks against a monster like Max Gawn

11

Max Gawn

Age

32

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

. Ivan is a solid ruckman who will do well against other solid performers but Gawn in form is something else.

Max Gawn

11

Max Gawn

Age

32

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

had 50 effective hit outs last night and that is a lot. Gawn also had 20 possessions around the ground with 6 marks. Soldo's stats were OK as he had 24 hit outs with 16 possessions and 2 marks but Gawn was clearly BOG and the difference between the two sides.

Soldo is doing OK and I am not knocking him but for chrissake Hinkley give the poor bastard some help in ruck. We had options last night but did not use them. As an example Scott used Ratugolea as a support ruckman with some success at Geelong yet he is not on Hinkley's radar. Maybe Esava has told Ken he does not want to play as a part time ruckman? It seems to be the way it works these days.

The bottom line is I am happy enough with Ivan's efforts but he needs help in ruck.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Yeah, I know Gawn had a lot of hit outs but I didn't think they were costly against us especially against Soldo.

But yes, a second ruck option would be nice.

 

[Wargreymon90]

just have to take the loss against Gawn. No one will beat him. I actually thought Soldo did well to make himself dangerous.

In no scenario should we be playing Soldo and Sweet in the same team.

 

[davesnothere]

Ratugolea has one job and one job only for the next 50 odd games. Aliirs form turned to crap Rucking for the Swans.

We could rotate the Rucks?

3 weeks on and Sweet or Dante a game or 2?

That could keep Soldo on top of the ground and lessen the injury risk?

He was mentioned as suffering knee soreness during the week. Soreness any soreness with his size and workload sets off an alarm for mine. Plays though it and it doesn't get better and he plays though it again and a month from now we have Scott Lycett

29

Scott Lycett

Age

31

Ht

203cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

6.3

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.0

5star

D

11.3

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

5.7

3star

CL

4.2

5star

HO

24.7

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

5.0

5star

.

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

Lost hit outs by 25 but won clearance by 15. It just wasn't a factor in the game

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Lost hit outs by 25 but won clearance by 15. It just wasn't a factor in the game

Thank you.

 

[The Hobo]

I felt Soldo was far too aware of Gawn, and was looking to nullify Gawn rather than just playing his own game.

The number of times I saw Soldo in great position with separation from Gawn, only to then go looking for Gawn was disappointing. Back yourself in!

 

[Amarula]

Yeah, I know Gawn had a lot of hit outs but I didn't think they were costly against us especially against Soldo.

But yes, a second ruck option would be nice.

Didn’t we win the clearances?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Didn’t we win the clearances?

Yeah, we did.

Hit outs
Port Adelaide 30
Melbourne 55

Clearances
Port Adelaide 52
Melbourne 37

Centre Clearances
Port Adelaide 16
Melbourne 11

Stoppage Clearances
Port Adelaide 36
Melbourne 26

Yes we won the clearances but as I like to say there are clearances and then there are clearances.

Drew with 10
Wines with 9
Soldo with 8

Rozee with 5
Butters with 3

Centre Clearances

Rozee 2
Butters 1

 

[Poo Eckert]

Yeah, we did.

Hit outs
Port Adelaide 30
Melbourne 55

Clearances
Port Adelaide 52
Melbourne 37

Centre Clearances
Port Adelaide 16
Melbourne 11

Stoppage Clearances
Port Adelaide 36
Melbourne 26

Yes we won the clearances but as I like to say there are clearances and then there are clearances.

Drew with 10
Wines with 9
Soldo with 8

Rozee with 5
Butters with 3

Centre Clearances

Rozee 2
Butters 1

Don’t frees count to clearance?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Don’t frees count to clearance?

I'm not 100% sure but I think they do.

I'm assuming you are talking about a ruck infringement or holding or something like that.