Discussion Lets talk about the elephant in the room

How should the league proceed

  • Fold the Furies

    Votes: 6 31.6%

  • Fold the Dragons

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Merge Furies and Dragons

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • Do nothing, ignore the drip until my basement is under water.

    Votes: 11 57.9%
  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .

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Cadsky said:
Good folk of Sweet, I'm here today to discuss the elephant in the room. As we sit, from what I understand we're currently less than a week away from match threads starting with round 1 matches to be posted Sunday 22nd January. Although there has been no official word on the exact start day of the competition. Along with that there had been no thread started by our glorious and super organised leader Kennedy Parker for teams to list their office squads for season 35. Even as a simmer for S35 I haven't been given a solid time frame. There's been no mention of how many games will be played this season or how long the break will be between season 35 & 36.

Still, this is not the reason I am writing this thread, no, there is a bigger elephant, there he is, sitting in the sand pit with his head out of sight. The elephant I refer to is the current state and health of the league. Through numerous sources I have found some very concerning information. Firstly let's shine some light on the Dragons list, which only a week ago was sitting UNDER the minimum list numbers. It has been confirmed by multiple sources that the only way they have been able to gain the extra poster required to bring them back up to the minimum is with out side assistance. Someone who has been generous enough to recruit for a club they don't enemy play for. This is incredibly concerning. What will happen should the Dragons face a similar situation next off season? Will this same poster be kind enough to render the same assistance? Now today it has come to light that the poster who has agreed to join the Dragons purely to keep them afloat has just been BANNED. It is unknown at this stage if the ban is permanent or temporary, but even still, this puts the Dragons back into a precarious position of not making the minimum list numbers before the season starts.

It is clear to me that expansion has let some clubs in a very bad position. The second example I have today is the Fighting Furies who have been left in a seriously bad position when Tigerturbulance and co. All up and left for their expansion team. Where are the furies at? Well they lost their best chance at rebuilding at the end of the last season kananooks and to rub salt in their wounds he left for the exact club that caused this mess, the Opidian Old Boys. Losing Dominic03 mid season was another shot in the foot for the furies and losing myself also didnt help their cause. Now it has been confirmed to me by one of their leader ship group members just last night that they have "no idea" if the club has picked up any new recruits because " Pickitt is ******* useless at communicating" not good at all. So the state the furies are in is currently unknown.

Now last season their certainly was a 14th bid for expansion in the works. The team consisted of 7 of the most experienced and highly regarded leaders and posters within the league, of which I was a part. Now why would such a great team of individuals not formally announce any sort of bid confirmation you ask? The answer is simple. Should a 14th team be anointed it will be detrimental to the league. I can guarantee you that we will have more clubs in crisis just like the 2 examples I have already given you.

Today I am hearing a new prominent poster has decided to run their own 14th bid. Good luck to them. I certainly don't think now is the time. Infact after 1 full season, I believe most would agree that odd number of teams just doesn't work in the sfa. So why would I be advocating against expansion if I so desperately want an even number of teams in the competition? Well I believe the time has come where a discussion needs to be had and a decision needs to be made.

Ladies and gentlemen, the time has come for the hard decisions to be made. I believe one for the following two outcomes must happen for the league to remain healthy.

FOLD or MERGER

that's right, either we fold one of the Furies or Dragons, or we Merge them together. Personally I am in favour of a merger because both teams hold a rich history and neither team deserves the dishonour of being folded. Merging these teams means they absorbe the best players from both teams into one. T2B_ , serial_thrilla, NaturalDisaster & omgfridge all playing on the one team. Now I don't say this light heartedly and I certainly don't say it to offend or upset anyone from either of those teams, I have a lot of greats friends that play for both but something must be done.

This brings an added bonus to the rest of the league as players will certainly need to be cut. This leaves an abundance of players on the open market to be wooed by the remaining clubs. A much needed breath of fresh air as recruitment is certainly lacklustre at best by most clubs and there are far more players considering retirement than rookies being recruited to sustain the league.

I dont believe either team should have a say in the decision, for obvious reasons and both clubs will refuse either option. Certainly both clubs should have their say but ultimately this is a decision that should be made by the committee. This is the exact reason the committee exists. This is not food for thought, action must be taken now to protect the league and the clubs from themselves.

So to recap,

Timeframe on season start
How many rounds will the season consist of
How long will the off season be
Will Dragons and Furies meet the minimum
14th bid is live and in planning
FOLD or MERGE
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How did you find out about JT’s Jets?

While I’m here, who wants to join JT’s mighty fighting Jets?
 
Need a couple of teams to revisit their choice of committee rep. No point having one if they do not show up or contribute to the discussions.

Please also try and find one that can be objective occasionally, we might get some stuff done ... even if by accident.
 
Cadsky said:
Good folk of Sweet, I'm here today to discuss the elephant in the room. As we sit, from what I understand we're currently less than a week away from match threads starting with round 1 matches to be posted Sunday 22nd January. Although there has been no official word on the exact start day of the competition. Along with that there had been no thread started by our glorious and super organised leader Kennedy Parker for teams to list their office squads for season 35. Even as a simmer for S35 I haven't been given a solid time frame. There's been no mention of how many games will be played this season or how long the break will be between season 35 & 36.

Still, this is not the reason I am writing this thread, no, there is a bigger elephant, there he is, sitting in the sand pit with his head out of sight. The elephant I refer to is the current state and health of the league. Through numerous sources I have found some very concerning information. Firstly let's shine some light on the Dragons list, which only a week ago was sitting UNDER the minimum list numbers. It has been confirmed by multiple sources that the only way they have been able to gain the extra poster required to bring them back up to the minimum is with out side assistance. Someone who has been generous enough to recruit for a club they don't enemy play for. This is incredibly concerning. What will happen should the Dragons face a similar situation next off season? Will this same poster be kind enough to render the same assistance? Now today it has come to light that the poster who has agreed to join the Dragons purely to keep them afloat has just been BANNED. It is unknown at this stage if the ban is permanent or temporary, but even still, this puts the Dragons back into a precarious position of not making the minimum list numbers before the season starts.

It is clear to me that expansion has let some clubs in a very bad position. The second example I have today is the Fighting Furies who have been left in a seriously bad position when Tigerturbulance and co. All up and left for their expansion team. Where are the furies at? Well they lost their best chance at rebuilding at the end of the last season kananooks and to rub salt in their wounds he left for the exact club that caused this mess, the Opidian Old Boys. Losing Dominic03 mid season was another shot in the foot for the furies and losing myself also didnt help their cause. Now it has been confirmed to me by one of their leader ship group members just last night that they have "no idea" if the club has picked up any new recruits because " Pickitt is ******* useless at communicating" not good at all. So the state the furies are in is currently unknown.

Now last season their certainly was a 14th bid for expansion in the works. The team consisted of 7 of the most experienced and highly regarded leaders and posters within the league, of which I was a part. Now why would such a great team of individuals not formally announce any sort of bid confirmation you ask? The answer is simple. Should a 14th team be anointed it will be detrimental to the league. I can guarantee you that we will have more clubs in crisis just like the 2 examples I have already given you.

Today I am hearing a new prominent poster has decided to run their own 14th bid. Good luck to them. I certainly don't think now is the time. Infact after 1 full season, I believe most would agree that odd number of teams just doesn't work in the sfa. So why would I be advocating against expansion if I so desperately want an even number of teams in the competition? Well I believe the time has come where a discussion needs to be had and a decision needs to be made.

Ladies and gentlemen, the time has come for the hard decisions to be made. I believe one for the following two outcomes must happen for the league to remain healthy.

FOLD or MERGER

that's right, either we fold one of the Furies or Dragons, or we Merge them together. Personally I am in favour of a merger because both teams hold a rich history and neither team deserves the dishonour of being folded. Merging these teams means they absorbe the best players from both teams into one. T2B_ , serial_thrilla, NaturalDisaster & omgfridge all playing on the one team. Now I don't say this light heartedly and I certainly don't say it to offend or upset anyone from either of those teams, I have a lot of greats friends that play for both but something must be done.

This brings an added bonus to the rest of the league as players will certainly need to be cut. This leaves an abundance of players on the open market to be wooed by the remaining clubs. A much needed breath of fresh air as recruitment is certainly lacklustre at best by most clubs and there are far more players considering retirement than rookies being recruited to sustain the league.

I dont believe either team should have a say in the decision, for obvious reasons and both clubs will refuse either option. Certainly both clubs should have their say but ultimately this is a decision that should be made by the committee. This is the exact reason the committee exists. This is not food for thought, action must be taken now to protect the league and the clubs from themselves.

So to recap,

Timeframe on season start
How many rounds will the season consist of
How long will the off season be
Will Dragons and Furies meet the minimum
14th bid is live and in planning
FOLD or MERGE
Click to expand...
pile GIF
 
Jabba73 said:
Need a couple of teams to revisit their choice of committee rep. No point having one if they do not show up or contribute to the discussions.

Please also try and find one that can be objective occasionally, we might get some stuff done ... even if by accident.
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I’ve always admired your belief!
 
We have a few posters amongst us trying to polish a turd and hoping like hell no one remembers their shortcomings.

serial_thrilla or maybe a mod may be able to help me here but I do recall a "wishing you were dead " aimed at VeinGlorious in a thread. Ratsak was the poor and simples choice if I remember rightly.

Now a stickler for rules and a pet.

honest campaigners see right through Cadsky charade.

There are more bum kissers amongst us.
 
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BLUEALLTHRU said:
We have a few posters amongst us trying to polish a turd and hoping like hell no one remembers their shortcomings.

serial_thrilla or maybe a mod may be able to help me here but I do recall a "wishing you were dead " aimed at VeinGlorious in a thread. Ratsak was the poor and simples choice if I remember rightly.

Now a stickler for rules and a pet.

honest campaigners see right through Cadsky charade.

There are more bum kissers amongst us.
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SOW, where has Veiny been lately? That dude is a blast and a half!
 

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BLUEALLTHRU said:
We have a few posters amongst us trying to polish a turd and hoping like hell no one remembers their shortcomings.

serial_thrilla or maybe a mod may be able to help me here but I do recall a "wishing you were dead " aimed at VeinGlorious in a thread. Ratsak was the poor and simples choice if I remember rightly.

Now a stickler for rules and a pet.

honest campaigners see right through Cadsky charade.

There are more bum kissers amongst us.
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We all have our bad days and make mistakes. I've already apologised to ABV for my poor comment and coped my whack for it too. The fact you feel the need to raise it again goes to show how poor of a poster you really are. But since we're digging up old news should we revisit those homophobic comments of yours? Not your finest hour I would think. Or should we all just move on?
 
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PMBangers said:
It would help if you led by example in this regard Clarkey, I wanted to take Charlie Kelly as my new character inspiration anyway
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I’m not even reading any of this thread to be fair.

Same s**t every season. Clubs are struggling… they need to fold… who do they have… who will save them.

If only people realised that it’s the same conversation every season for the past 12 years and yet here we are, still kicking along.
 
ClarkeM said:
I’m not even reading any of this thread to be fair.

Same s**t every season. Clubs are struggling… they need to fold… who do they have… who will save them.

If only people realised that it’s the same conversation every season for the past 12 years and yet here we are, still kicking along.
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Difference is we have 13 clubs now, and 13 is a very unstable number.
Funny how Cadsky made this thread on Friday the 13th🤔
 
Greenery said:
Difference is we have 13 clubs now, and 13 is a very unstable number.
Funny how Cadsky made this thread on Friday the 13th🤔
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Don’t give him too much credit

It was just a coincidence
 
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