Traded Liam Baker - Now a West Coast Eagle

[Jeremias]

Time for some house cleaning.

1) Do not drag discussions or individual posts over here from other threads or boards.

Feel free to respond to those posts wherever they were posted, if you so choose.

2) Enough with the personal attacks. It’s a long season and this one may go the distance, so if you want to remain a part of the discussion, do it respectfully.

We will use thread bans and infractions if necessary.

 

[THE_GUN]

Anyway, I like Baker as a player. I don't think he would be in our top ten players so I am not sure how to value him from a needs basis. I would assume the deal has been done barring something extraordinary this season.

Ofcourse you like Baker all Freo supporters love Baker and are drooling over the possibility of adding him to a team thats ready to go and window open for the next 5-6 years. Its now or never for your team the next 6 years

But for some reason you guys here (not the club) seem to be pedantic about picks that may be 3-4 spots apart it just does not make any sense as most agree to the range.

If its pick 10 its pick 10 if its 18 then thats what it will be but this rubbish about PSD , Richmond dont have an option etc are just rubbish as proven in the past its all an imagination in the minds of supporters
Freo will pay what Richmond ask and they will negotiate and come to an agreement

But for Richmond supporters im taking 6-7 years of Baker than maybe the next Erasmus/Ellis/Lennon

 

[poshman]

Ofcourse you like Baker all Freo supporters love Baker and are drooling over the possibility of adding him to a team thats ready to go and window open for the next 5-6 years. Its now or never for your team the next 6 years

But for some reason you guys here (not the club) seem to be pedantic about picks that may be 3-4 spots apart it just does not make any sense as most agree to the range.

If its pick 10 its pick 10 if its 18 then thats what it will be but this rubbish about PSD , Richmond dont have an option etc are just rubbish as proven in the past its all an imagination in the minds of supporters
Freo will pay what Richmond ask and they will negotiate and come to an agreement

But for Richmond supporters im taking 6-7 years of Baker than maybe the next Erasmus/Ellis/Lennon

I haven’t said anything being pedantic about the picks. Though I’m sure if they are only a couple apart that argument could swing both ways.

Also I and many others are not drooling over him. In my mind it would be fine to good. So happy. Warner would have me drooling.

If you think everyone is drooling over him read the thread on our board. People are mostly in the same position I am.

 

[thistimeforsure]

So you predicted it in 2018, the year we won a flag?

To be fair Fremantle supporters predict (hope?) our downfall every year. Most of the time they’re left bitterly disappointed. But even a clock is right twice a day, I guess.

I dunno when did you trade for Kelly 2019

Sounds about right to me officer


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[kuhni]

We still going in circles around top 10 vs late first?

 

[juss]

Ofcourse you like Baker all Freo supporters love Baker and are drooling over the possibility of adding him to a team thats ready to go and window open for the next 5-6 years. Its now or never for your team the next 6 years

But for some reason you guys here (not the club) seem to be pedantic about picks that may be 3-4 spots apart it just does not make any sense as most agree to the range.

If its pick 10 its pick 10 if its 18 then thats what it will be but this rubbish about PSD , Richmond dont have an option etc are just rubbish as proven in the past its all an imagination in the minds of supporters
Freo will pay what Richmond ask and they will negotiate and come to an agreement

But for Richmond supporters im taking 6-7 years of Baker than maybe the next Erasmus/Ellis/Lennon

Uncontracted we won't get their best first rounder, we don't have the leverage, their "worst" first rounder this year is probably the outcome.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Uncontracted we won't get their best first rounder, we don't have the leverage, their "worst" first rounder this year is probably the outcome.

I mentioned it before but I think some were hearing “worst” and just thinking pick 18 when Pies are the only risk of going top 4 I’d think and that seems unlikely, pick will below 15 when traded

 

[blaisee]

He can make more money at Richmond or West Coast, so why pick Freo if it's not about winning more games?

The only reason, a Richmond player, would ever, leave Richmond, to go to freo, ever , is for more money

Surely you can understand this ?

Because if you do not understand this, you are completely delusional and in your own world.

Freo have never ever done anything ever in their whole history, do not get it twisted

If he leaves, he will leave to come home, and to come home for a big fat pay rise, and good luck to him, he deserves it

 

[Taylor]

The only reason, a Richmond player, would ever, leave Richmond, to go to freo, ever , is for more money

Surely you can understand this ?

Because if you do not understand this, you are completely delusional and in your own world.

Freo have never ever done anything ever in their whole history, do not get it twisted

If he leaves, he will leave to come home, and to come home for a big fat pay rise, and good luck to him, he deserves it

Richmond can pay more for Baker to stay than Freo can to draw him over. So why won't Richmond pay their loyal son value?

 

[blaisee]

Richmond can pay more for Baker to stay than Freo can to draw him over. So why won't Richmond pay their loyal son value?

because our payment model has a proven track record of winning premierships and paying Baker $1m just doesn't work for us

and freo are desperate for him and generally have no idea how to win premierships as they have never ever really been close and never will be

 

[Taylor]

because our payment model has a proven track record of winning premierships and paying Baker $1m just doesn't work for us

and freo are desperate for him and generally have no idea how to win premierships as they have never ever really been close and never will be

Do you have a figure at which you won't budge a single dollar higher than?

 

[Morro]

The only reason, a Richmond player, would ever, leave Richmond, to go to freo, ever , is for more money

Surely you can understand this ?

Because if you do not understand this, you are completely delusional and in your own world.

Freo have never ever done anything ever in their whole history, do not get it twisted

If he leaves, he will leave to come home, and to come home for a big fat pay rise, and good luck to him, he deserves it

I dont think this one will have much to do with money from our perspective. Maybe between Freo and WC it might, but I see Baker leaving as a desire to return home, not to cash in as such, although its probably a bit of both.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

The only reason, a Richmond player, would ever, leave Richmond, to go to freo, ever , is for more money

Surely you can understand this ?

Because if you do not understand this, you are completely delusional and in your own world.

Freo have never ever done anything ever in their whole history, do not get it twisted

If he leaves, he will leave to come home, and to come home for a big fat pay rise, and good luck to him, he deserves it

Im my entire bigfooty experience Ive never seen a more delusional view of a players trade value than yours. You've somehow managed to unite West Coast, Dockers and even supporters from rival clubs against some of the utter nonsense you posted here including the basic fact you don't get how a player being uncontracted compared to contracted effects trade value. Probably time to lay of the abuse of others here I would have thought.

 

[WilloTree]

Guys...we seem to have jumped the shark.

 

[blaisee]

Do you have a figure at which you won't budge a single dollar higher than?

who do you think i am ?

Blair Hartley lol

 

[blaisee]

Im my entire bigfooty experience Ive never seen a more delusional view of a players trade value than yours. You've somehow managed to unite West Coast, Dockers and even supporters from rival clubs against some of the utter nonsense you posted here including the basic fact you don't get how a player being uncontracted compared to contracted effects trade value. Probably time to lay of the abuse of others here I would have thought.

You think I am delusional?

You reckon its not delusional to offer someone $5 million for 5 years and yet not value that player as a top 10 draft pick?

Have you just started following football?

Lets see if you have the guts to show yourself here in October when Baker gets traded for the value of a top 10 draft pick.

I look forward to your formal apology, in writing.

 

[blaisee]

I dont think this one will have much to do with money from our perspective. Maybe between Freo and WC it might, but I see Baker leaving as a desire to return home, not to cash in as such, although its probably a bit of both.

so its sorta about going home, and getting a pay rise as well

 

[Taylor]

You think I am delusional?

You reckon its not delusional to offer someone $5 million for 5 years and yet not value that player as a top 10 draft pick?

Have you just started following football?

Lets see if you have the guts to show yourself here in October when Baker gets traded for the value of a top 10 draft pick.

I look forward to your formal apology, in writing.

And what if you found out it was $3m over five years?

 

[Wild Bill]

so its sorta about going home, and getting a pay rise as well

I think it would be more about jumping off a sinking ship.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Guys...we seem to have jumped the shark.

You think I am delusional?

You reckon its not delusional to offer someone $5 million for 5 years and yet not value that player as a top 10 draft pick?

Have you just started following football?

Lets see if you have the guts to show yourself here in October when Baker gets traded for the value of a top 10 draft pick.

I look forward to your formal apology, in writing.

Oh absolutely I think you're delusional. History shows that to be the case. Uncontracted players don't get the same as contracted players. Fact. Carlton knocked back Sydney's request for a top ten pick for Papley a few years ago and he was contracted and would have been playing at a similar (if not better) level than Baker is currently.

By the way there is no evidence whatsoever of an offer at the 1 million mark and thats the afl media where talking about so everything exaggerated in terms of money for the sake of making a story. Btw I rate Baker more highly than most Freo supporters and I'd trade 13-15 max. You literarily abuse even the people who state views that aren't even that far off what you are saying.

 

[Morro]

Oh absolutely I think you're delusional. History shows that to be the case. Uncontracted players don't get the same as contracted players. Fact. Carlton knocked back Sydney's request for a top ten pick for Papley a few years ago and he was contracted and would have been playing at a similar (if not better) level than Baker is currently.

By the way there is no evidence whatsoever of an offer at the 1 million mark and thats the afl media where talking about so everything exaggerated in terms of money for the sake of making a story. Btw I rate Baker more highly than most Freo supporters and I'd trade 13-15 max. You literarily abuse even the people who state views that aren't even that far off what you are saying.

For every example like Papley, there is one against, so your argument about facts isnt really factual.

Regardless, atleast you value him fairly.

 

[The Goon]

Guys...we seem to have jumped the shark.

Jumped the shark on a unicorn wearing a liger skin jacket, skin tight mankini and MAGA cap.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

For every example like Papley, there is one against, so your argument about facts isnt really factual.

Regardless, atleast you value him fairly.

It really is.Name a non key position example of a player being traded for a top ten pick over 26 who wasn't considered an absolute superstar. Baker is not that.

 

[Purple Suit]

It really is.Name a non key position example of a player being traded for a top ten pick over 26 who wasn't considered an absolute superstar. Baker is not that.

Shultz could be one, although I think I'm still living in dream world that he ends up a top 10 pick.

 

[Off Tap]

You reckon its not delusional to offer someone $5 million for 5 years and yet not value that player as a top 10 draft pick?

I've skipped a few pages today as we seem to be going over the same things in regards to valuation.

Have I missed something though, who has offered $5m for 5 years?

I'd be asking for more than a top 10 pick if that's the offer. Time for the Dockers to pony up 2 of their first rounders.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Shultz could be one, although I think I'm still living in dream world that he ends up a top 10 pick.

At the time of the trade though Shultz was traded for a late second rounder and a pick that most thought would be very late in the 2024 first round and after academy and priority bids most would have expected 2024 first rounder would be taken in a pick outside the top 20. He was contracted. If we end up with a top 10 pick for Shultz this year that will go down as one of the best trades in our history and would mean we would have effectively traded Shultz and our 2024 3rd rounder for Simpson and a top 10 pick. Insane.