Vic Lidia Thorpe: Not the subject for every thread!

[Gethelred]

Seeing as Lidia discussion is cropping up across multiple threads, let's have us a thread for people who want to discuss her contribution to Australian politics.

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Go nuts.

 

[Gough]

In the meantime we have vocal supporters in Parliament for a US President currently turning the army on it's own people.

 

[Carn The Berries]

you'd think in 2025 you'd understand the concept of burn it all down

but I'm sure you do, you'd just rather tone police a black woman because its easier right?

Her race and gender has nothing to do with it. It's a poor choice of words, regardless of the point she was attempting to make.

Had she not previously used an actual fire as a talking point, the conversation would be very different.

If a white man had made the same remarks, with the same history of being seen to cheer on arson, I would react exactly the same way.

 

[Carn The Berries]

The fire was at old parliament house's wooden doors, where there is also minimal security presence. No one is burning down new parliament house, or even starting a small fire, so easily.

I don't have a problem with her choice of words, as I don't take it as a threat to the physical structure, more to the inherent cronyism.

Ahhhh, so arson is ok as long as it's on a small scale?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Then, at absolute best, it's a terrible choice of words given there has previously been a fire at parliament house that she made light of.

 

[CM86]

She applauded the doors of the old parliament house being set alight, so I don't think it can be categorically stated that she wasn't talking about arson...

You can argue that what she said was irresponsible, or dangerous rhetoric etc.

No one can pretend that she needs to be investigated for planning a terrorist attack... Or arson etc.


Almost any other MP could have made the exact same statement, and this wouldn't be a story.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

You can argue that what she said was irresponsible, or dangerous rhetoric etc.

No one can pretend that she needs to be investigated for planning a terrorist attack... Or arson etc.


Almost any other MP could have made the exact same statement, and this wouldn't be a story.

Barnaby says more stupid stuff than this before his morning shit each day.

 

[CM86]

Barnaby says more stupid stuff than this before his morning shit each day.

Barnaby was caught passed out drunk, laying on the street... and anyone critical of him was accused of attacking him for a medical condition...

Thorpe was harassed outside a nightclub, and everyone demanded she be deported...

 

[Gralin]

Her race and gender has nothing to do with it. It's a poor choice of words, regardless of the point she was attempting to make.

Had she not previously used an actual fire as a talking point, the conversation would be very different.

If a white man had made the same remarks, with the same history of being seen to cheer on arson, I would react exactly the same way.

lol whatever you need to tell yourself

much much worse things get said daily without the focused outrage of the media, the political class and all the people in the general public who are definitely not racist or misogynist but only seem to point the finger under the right circumstances

 

[geoffjennings79]

Ahhhh, so arson is ok as long as it's on a small scale?

Do you have a comprehension problem?

(That's a rhetorical question, no need to reply in the affirmative.)

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

If Nathan Buckley, on his recent new appointment, said "We need to burn down the Geelong Footy Club and start again" I would not take that as meaning he wants to physically set buildings on fire and murder every existing person connected with the Geelong Football Club.

No, he'd be talking about institutional and maybe cultural change.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If Nathan Buckley, on his recent new appointment, said "We need to burn down the Geelong Footy Club and start again" I would not take that as meaning he wants to physically set buildings on fire and murder every existing person connected with the Geelong Football Club.

No, he'd be talking about institutional and maybe cultural change.

But don't you know that there was a huge industrial fire in Geelong this year. He clearly meant to have another such fire.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

But don't you know that there was a huge industrial fire in Geelong this year. He clearly meant to have another such fire.

That crazy bastard! IT'S PURE ANAKIE DOWN GEELONG WAY!!!

 

[Kram]

Obviously didn't mean it literally but still a silly thing to say.

 

[Chief]

Her race and gender has nothing to do with it. It's a poor choice of words, regardless of the point she was attempting to make.

Had she not previously used an actual fire as a talking point, the conversation would be very different.

If a white man had made the same remarks, with the same history of being seen to cheer on arson, I would react exactly the same way.

Who was it who gloated at Covid deaths in Victoria?

His name rhymed with "Barnaby Joyce".

 

[Carn The Berries]

Who was it who gloated at Covid deaths in Victoria?

His name rhymed with "Barnaby Joyce".

Can't say I recall seeing or hearing about that at the time. If you'd like to post a link I'll happily condemn that too...

 

[Sphynx]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

She’d be the first to jump on the smallest literal misstep by others if it suited her agenda.

 

[Chief]

Can't say I recall seeing or hearing about that at the time. If you'd like to post a link I'll happily condemn that too...

No idea what people get out of pretending this was anything more than a turn of phrase.

Pointless distraction.

 

[Gralin]

distraction.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Ahhhh, so arson is ok as long as it's on a small scale?

Are figures of speech a small scale or large scale?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Can't say I recall seeing or hearing about that at the time. If you'd like to post a link I'll happily condemn that too...

Barnaby Joyce urged to apologise over ‘burning flesh’ comments about Melbourne’s Covid impact

The deputy prime minister says in News Corp interview regional Australians ‘couldn’t really give a shit’ about city’s strife

www.theguardian.com

 

[Carn The Berries]

Barnaby Joyce urged to apologise over ‘burning flesh’ comments about Melbourne’s Covid impact

The deputy prime minister says in News Corp interview regional Australians ‘couldn’t really give a shit’ about city’s strife

www.theguardian.com

That is abhorrent. Sadly, I'd expect nothing less from the Member for New England.

What a knob.

 

[Gough]

That is abhorrent. Sadly, I'd expect nothing less from the Member for New England.

What a knob.

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/lefties-shamed-for-being-in-glee-following-charlie-kirks-assassination/video/6cd628d00e84992d24d693d30020f2b9

Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce says what “shocks” him about the murder of Turning Point founder Charlie Kirk is that some people are in “glee”.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

She’d be the first to jump on the smallest literal misstep by others if it suited her agenda.

Can you please cite examples of her having done so?

 

[Chief]

I, too would like to see an example.

 

[Orfullrules]

I, too would like to see an example.

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