Society/Culture Life after Covid-19

[Pessimistic]

His work in cricket was exemplary, do you have anything specific in mind.
With respect to his comments to the politicians they are spot on, nothing has changed.

I acknowledge many battle with tax minimisation versus tax evasion & many confuse what he said with tax evasion.

he benefitted to his bottom line with politicians wasting public money. I doubt wheat he ever oays in tax will cover that
quite hypocritical

 

[Pessimistic]

Please. Without opening the borders, the economy will not recover. Its a pipe dream.

on the app they want us to carry, surely there needs to be payback. Exemption from fines related to distancing might be enough. Otherwise why would people do it?

 

[Carringbush2010]

I hope landlord insurance will cover shortfall in rent if tenants choose not to pay. No doubt the fineprint in policies will be getting looked over very carefully.

It does.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Do you have any proof of landlords rushing to evict people before the laws are passed?

Would seem like a stupid time to evict tenants as they isn't exactly a massive rush for rental vacancies at the moment

Won't be evicting mine, not that you can just at a whim anyway.

 

[Kwality]

he benefitted to his bottom line with politicians wasting public money. I doubt wheat he ever oays in tax will cover that
quite hypocritical

What are you referring to?

Are you jealous of anyone who has a dollar?

 

[00Stinger]

Please. Without opening the borders, the economy will not recover. Its a pipe dream.

considering China is back to production and that is our major export partner as long as trade is allowed our economy will start kicking back up

 

[Pessimistic]

What are you referring to?

Are you jealous of anyone who has a dollar?

Its really not about me

 

[Kwality]

considering China is back to production and that is our major export partner as long as trade is allowed our economy will start kicking back up

International tourism was a big contributor.

 

[00Stinger]

International tourism was a big contributor.

So is international education, I am not doubting that our economy will pick back up to what it was pre-covid 19.

But with our biggest and most important trading partner in China back up and operating our economy can defiantly start to improve until we can confidently open our borders again

 

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Do you have any proof of landlords rushing to evict people before the laws are passed?
Would seem like a stupid time to evict tenants as they isn't exactly a massive rush for rental vacancies at the moment

Landlords rush to throw out tenants in eviction ban confusion

Landlords are rushing to throw out tenants who have lost their jobs in the coronavirus crisis due to uncertainty over the government's eviction ban.

www.theage.com.au

Would rather have the place sit empty rather than getting wear and tear and risking being trashed by campaigners who won't pay rent.

 

[Seeds]

Landlords rush to throw out tenants in eviction ban confusion

Landlords are rushing to throw out tenants who have lost their jobs in the coronavirus crisis due to uncertainty over the government's eviction ban.

www.theage.com.au

Would rather have the place sit empty rather than getting wear and tear and risking being trashed by campaigners who won't pay rent.

Im glad i sold my rental property last year. Would not want to be stuck with a rental property right now. Rents to house price ratios were far too low as it was to make being a Landlord profitable. Now its a disaster.

 

[00Stinger]

Landlords rush to throw out tenants in eviction ban confusion

Landlords are rushing to throw out tenants who have lost their jobs in the coronavirus crisis due to uncertainty over the government's eviction ban.

www.theage.com.au

Would rather have the place sit empty rather than getting wear and tear and risking being trashed by campaigners who won't pay rent.

wow, I agree with the article surely you are better to have tenant in there paying something rather than getting nothing

The comparison to panic buying toilet paper is accurate imo

 

[Seeds]

for all the anti traders.

A once-in-100-years pandemic is no reason to throw out the world order

The availability of the goods and services that we previously took for granted now seems less secure. We can now see more clearly the extent to which our standard of living depends on integration with the global economy, writes Stephen Kirchner

www.abc.net.au

Closing the productivity gap
Australia's productivity growth has been broadly in line with the global frontier represented by the United States, but the level of Australian productivity has remained stubbornly below the US.

The productivity gap largely accounts for Australia' shortfall in average living standards compared to the US.

There are structural impediments to Australia converging on US levels of productivity.

Breaking down the latest news and research to understand how the world is living through an epidemic, this is the ABC's Coronacast podcast.


Australia has a different industry composition, a higher labour utilisation rate and a larger productivity penalty from geography than the US. But there is still scope to narrow, if not close, the productivity gap.

One way of narrowing the gap is to increase Australia's economic integration with the rest of the world.

Before the pandemic, Australia ranked only 58th internationally on one index of economic globalisation, just ahead of the United States at 59th.

But because the US is already on the frontier of global productivity, it is not as reliant on international economic integration to drive domestic productivity gains.

My research, Failure to Converge? The Australia-US Productivity Gap in Long-Run Perspective, suggests Australia could enjoy productivity gains of up to 9 per cent by positioning itself on the frontier of international economic openness.

In the wake of the pandemic, re-booting Australia's international economic integration must be a top priority for Australian policymakers.

Dr Stephen Kirchner is program director, Trade and Investment, at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney.

 

[its free real estate]

for all the anti traders.

A once-in-100-years pandemic is no reason to throw out the world order

The availability of the goods and services that we previously took for granted now seems less secure. We can now see more clearly the extent to which our standard of living depends on integration with the global economy, writes Stephen Kirchner

www.abc.net.au

Closing the productivity gap
Australia's productivity growth has been broadly in line with the global frontier represented by the United States, but the level of Australian productivity has remained stubbornly below the US.

The productivity gap largely accounts for Australia' shortfall in average living standards compared to the US.

There are structural impediments to Australia converging on US levels of productivity.

Breaking down the latest news and research to understand how the world is living through an epidemic, this is the ABC's Coronacast podcast.


Australia has a different industry composition, a higher labour utilisation rate and a larger productivity penalty from geography than the US. But there is still scope to narrow, if not close, the productivity gap.

One way of narrowing the gap is to increase Australia's economic integration with the rest of the world.

Before the pandemic, Australia ranked only 58th internationally on one index of economic globalisation, just ahead of the United States at 59th.

But because the US is already on the frontier of global productivity, it is not as reliant on international economic integration to drive domestic productivity gains.

My research, Failure to Converge? The Australia-US Productivity Gap in Long-Run Perspective, suggests Australia could enjoy productivity gains of up to 9 per cent by positioning itself on the frontier of international economic openness.

In the wake of the pandemic, re-booting Australia's international economic integration must be a top priority for Australian policymakers.

Dr Stephen Kirchner is program director, Trade and Investment, at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney.

Lol. Not going to happen buddy.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Landlords rush to throw out tenants in eviction ban confusion

Landlords are rushing to throw out tenants who have lost their jobs in the coronavirus crisis due to uncertainty over the government's eviction ban.

www.theage.com.au

Would rather have the place sit empty rather than getting wear and tear and risking being trashed by campaigners who won't pay rent.

Those campaigners are insured against in landlords insurance, not to mention non tenancy (rental payments).

 

[freowho]

thats kind of inconsistent with the record high life expectancy.

do people really not know how bad human life, diets and health was in the past?

Life expectancy has started to dip in the US and has flattened here and is expected to dip. 60% of us are overweight, 30% are obese and 100,000 Australians get told every year they have type 2 diabetes. Peanuts are banned in schools.
Our biology developed to catch an animal every couple of days and that's it. The idea that we are supposed to be constantly fed is making us sick. Autophagy is essential yet the vast majority of us never allow it to happen. We are now starting to see the effects of a sedentary work force staring at computers and driving everywhere coupled with the increased consumption of sugar, starch, alcohol etc.

 

[Seeds]

Life expectancy has started to dip in the US and has flattened here and is expected to dip. 60% of us are overweight, 30% are obese and 100,000 Australians get told every year they have type 2 diabetes. Peanuts are banned in schools.
Our biology developed to catch an animal every couple of days and that's it. The idea that we are supposed to be constantly fed is making us sick. Autophagy is essential yet the vast majority of us never allow it to happen. We are now starting to see the effects of a sedentary work force staring at computers and driving everywhere coupled with the increased consumption of sugar, starch, alcohol etc.

I agree with some of what you are saying but not all. You are just focusing on negatives and missing a lot of improvements.

our diets today are much better then they were in the past. Less sugar and salt in food. A lot of the bad fats are now banned. More variety. Greater focus on healthier foods. You would be horrified if you had a time machine and went back to 1980s to see what was on the supermarket shelves.

agree peanut thing is an issue. Its only going to get worse.

people exercise far more than they did in the past. There is little difference in sitting at a computer vs sitting at a typewriter or sitting next to a manufacturing conveyor belt. Only difference is the guy on the computer probably is running half marathons or going for 50km bike rides every weekend with his buddies in spandex. This is mow common and it wasnt even two decades ago. The guy on the conveyor belt 30 years ago was smoking 30 cigarettes a day and hitting up the pub too much. Smoking rates are now dramatically lower. Alocohol comsumption is also lower and more moderated. Not so many do the regular weekend bender like in the past.

US is a bit different from other developed economies. Their food regulation is much poorer, Health system is a shambles and they have had a prescription drug epidemic that has caused that very slight downturn in life expectancy for a couple of years. It aint a trend yet though. We nor the rest of the developed world is like the US.

 

[Marcel Proust]

hopefully corona beer stays at this price

 

[Evolved1]

hopefully corona beer stays at this price

The Chinese government should subsidise all sales of corona beer.

 

[Pessimistic]

So the way out is cautiously with strong case tracking and travel limitations

the first thing they want to open is schools. Apparently the kids aren’t at risk at all, and old teachers can be ‘stored’ somwhere

I have a question for the experts.
In future, If they are following a trail of potential infections. If they come to a household where a parent hs been infected, and the kids have been regular attendees at school, do they stop following the trail of the kids and all the other kids they have been in close contact with?

after all the experts tell us there’s no risk at all if healthy kids get infected. It’s not as if these kids can carry the app around as they’ve had phones banned from school.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

So the way out is cautiously with strong case tracking and travel limitations

the first thing they want to open is schools. Apparently the kids aren’t at risk at all, and old teachers can be ‘stored’ somwhere

I have a question for the experts.
In future, If they are following a trail of potential infections. If they come to a household where a parent hs been infected, and the kids have been regular attendees at school, do they stop following the trail of the kids and all the other kids they have been in close contact with?

after all the experts tell us there’s no risk at all if healthy kids get infected. It’s not as if these kids can carry the app around as they’ve had phones banned from school.

Kids in China started back at school from 16th/march.

Still seems kind of strange though.
There were outbreaks in all sorts of other countries by the time Wuhan was locked down. ( Jan 23rd).
Hong Kong implemented a fast and thorough lockdown, but they still managed to record over 1000 cases at a time when all of China only had 5000.
Why were Hong Kong so much worse than all the areas of China away from Wuhan?

 

[Pessimistic]

My point is people generally believe kids are super spreaders of infection generally even if unaffected themselves.

the experts aren’t even mentioning this let alone addressing it. 40% of people didn’t keep their kids out of school out of concern for old teachers

if schools are OK, so are gyms bars restauraunts etc. or is there some kind of anti pleasure vibe at play here, prioritised over cold logic

some more activities. University, tafe, vocational education including sport, arts, personal training, fitness especially with vocational qualifications attached

these vocational and educational activities are as important if not more so than all school levels except maybe y10-12

precautions can still be taken

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Kids in China started back at school from 16th/march.

Still seems kind of strange though.
There were outbreaks in all sorts of other countries by the time Wuhan was locked down. ( Jan 23rd).
Hong Kong implemented a fast and thorough lockdown, but they still managed to record over 1000 cases at a time when all of China only had 5000.
Why were Hong Kong so much worse than all the areas of China away from Wuhan?

think about where people in Wuhan travel to

HK is a major airport hub for international travel, so a lot would travel through there.

Also Wuhan is a major manufacturing city, and many of the western companies that make shit or buy shit in China have offices in HK.

Wuhan supply chain would have strong ties into Shenzhen/Dongguan/Guangzhou, and there is a massive amount of travel between GZ/SZ and HK

Finally HK is a popular short stay holiday for wealthy mainlanders. they go there and spend up big in prada/lv/gucci/etc

 

[DIG]

In terms of life after Covid, one thing I found out yesterday from my wife talking to Chinese businesspeople in China, is that lots of the Chinese over there are blown away by Australia’s record through this.

Heaps, HEAPS want to immigrate here when we open the borders again, they see us as a safe haven from future outbreaks of Coronaviruses. They also like how transparent our government has been (compared to theirs) about this crisis.

 

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