Autopsy Luke Beveridge - Alan Joyce

[go you pups]

Acker - check
Tony Dean - check
The Athenian - ???

I'm all for divergent opinions, but this thread is absolutely ridiculous and deserving to be laughed at.

(waits to be told he is accepting mediocrity)

Just need MD now

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

if bevo cant/doesnt bring in new coaches next year and we still serve up garbage next year.
then what do you think ??

 

[Dogs Rule]

Whoever it is you think you are you have no right to tell anyone how they can support their team.

What we don’t need is people who can’t tell the truth and open both eyes.

We all support the dogs and do it on different ways, just because you live on a rainbow where onlay nice words can be said doesn’t mean you are any more a supporter than anyone else

I was waiting for a 'you're living in fantasy land' type comment.

Like you and like every other poster on this board, what I expressed in my original post was my opinion.

Are we struggling? Yes. Do serious changes need to be made? Yes.

Do I want to criticise, white ant and lay into the club at every single opportunity? No.

Do I follow the club through thick and thin and not come out of the woodwork to lay into it when things are going bad? No.

You think whatever you like. What I don't get is how some people seem to get their kicks from being constantly negative. It's almost like this is situation normal and they want to bring the club down.

 

[Mattdougie]

I was waiting for a 'you're living in fantasy land' type comment.

Like you and like every other poster on this board, what I expressed in my original post was my opinion.

Are we struggling? Yes. Do serious changes need to be made? Yes.

Do I want to criticise, white ant and lay into the club at every single opportunity? No.

Do I follow the club through thick and thin and not come out of the woodwork to lay into it when things are going bad? No.

You think whatever you like. What I don't get is how some people seem to get their kicks from being constantly negative. It's almost like this is situation normal and they want to bring the club down.

Maybe in case you think we support someone different we have been down a hell of a lot more than we have been up over the last 5-6 decades. If that’s how some people wish to represent themselves than who are others to question that?

Unlike the constantly positive spin (that is in fact no true ) at least its reality.

But my point was that no matter what someone thinks, good or bad, it’s no one place to question someone else’s support and love for the club

 

[Dogs Rule]

Maybe in case you think we support someone different we have been down a hell of a lot more than we have been up over the last 5-6 decades. If that’s how some people wish to represent themselves than who are others to question that?

Unlike the constantly positive spin (that is in fact no true ) at least its reality.

But my point was that no matter what someone thinks, good or bad, it’s no one place to question someone else’s support and love for the club

I'll question whoever I want, because once again, that's my opinion.

I'll put my hand up and say I enjoy the club being successful. But, for some of us, the club being successful destroys their whole reason for being on here.

It's ironic that the whole 'tear the joint apart' mentality (i.e sack the coach, wholesale changes, new president and CEO etc) which is so popular when things turn like they have now, is the exact reason why we've been so unsuccessful for the last 50 years.

 

[Draft Pick]

I'll question whoever I want, because once again, that's my opinion.

I'll put my hand up and say I enjoy the club being successful. But, for some of us, the club being successful destroys their whole reason for being on here.

It's ironic that the whole 'tear the joint apart' mentality (i.e sack the coach, wholesale changes, new president and CEO etc) which is so popular when things turn like they have now, is the exact reason why we've been so unsuccessful for the last 50 years.

Yep spot on.

Cool heads needed over the next 12-24 months.

 

[Mattdougie]

I'll question whoever I want, because once again, that's my opinion.

I'll put my hand up and say I enjoy the club being successful. But, for some of us, the club being successful destroys their whole reason for being on here.

It's ironic that the whole 'tear the joint apart' mentality (i.e sack the coach, wholesale changes, new president and CEO etc) which is so popular when things turn like they have now, is the exact reason why we've been so unsuccessful for the last 50 years.

Yep that’s it great opinion.

Support the way i think you should or you are wrong.

Enjoy your evening on top of the PC moral pyramid.

 

[Cam1967]

Dont know if this is sarcasm or not

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Yep that’s it great opinion.

Support the way i think you should or you are wrong.

Enjoy your evening on top of the PC moral pyramid.

He never said he was wrong, he shared an opinion which was he thinks he should take his attitude and **** off.
Are you saying he can’t have an opinion on here MD ? Or is it he can’t have that opinion ?

 

[Draft Pick]

Yep that’s it great opinion.

Support the way i think you should or you are wrong.

Enjoy your evening on top of the PC moral pyramid.

What the hell has PC got to do with the post from Dogs Rule ?

 

[Mattdougie]

He never said he was wrong, he shared an opinion which was he thinks he should take his attitude and **** off.
Are you saying he can’t have an opinion on here MD ? Or is it he can’t have that opinion ?

Lol this is funny

Have you even read the initial post?

He told someone that we don’t need fans like him due to the way he supports the club.

That isn’t an opinion it’s a statement. So before you actually question me read the entire thread of discussion.

I’ve never question his opinion I questioned his statement. At no point did he say “I think” which would make it an opinion.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Lol this is funny

Have you even read the initial post?

He told someone that we don’t need fans like him due to the way he supports the club.

That isn’t an opinion it’s a statement. So before you actually question me read the entire thread of discussion.

I’ve never question his opinion I questioned his statement. At no point did he say “I think” which would make it an opinion.

He thinks we don't need fans like him. He's posted his thoughts on here. That's an opinion MD.
You seem like a smart bloke. How do you not get it ?

 

[immortalmike]

I'll question whoever I want, because once again, that's my opinion.

I'll put my hand up and say I enjoy the club being successful. But, for some of us, the club being successful destroys their whole reason for being on here.

It's ironic that the whole 'tear the joint apart' mentality (i.e sack the coach, wholesale changes, new president and CEO etc) which is so popular when things turn like they have now, is the exact reason why we've been so unsuccessful for the last 50 years.

Think your last paragraph is about right. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to question the job our leaders are doing and discuss what is best for the club.

 

[Mattdougie]

He thinks we don't need fans like him. He's posted his thoughts on here. That's an opinion MD.
You seem like a smart bloke. How do you not get it ?

Noooooo

We don’t need fans like you is a statement it is not an opinion and imo no one has the right to tell someone else they aren’t a supporter.

It’s a bugbear of mine I can’t stand it. We all support in our owns ways and the drippingly sick positivity from some in here makes me ill but I don’t question their support for our club because they choose to do it a different way to me

Anyway it’s off topic agreed to disagree I guess

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

Noooooo

We don’t need fans like you is a statement it is not an opinion and imo no one has the right to tell someone else they aren’t a supporter.

It’s a bugbear of mine I can’t stand it. We all support in our owns ways and the drippingly sick positivity from some in here makes me ill but I don’t question their support for our club because they choose to do it a different way to me

Anyway it’s off topic agreed to disagree I guess

hahah totally agree
i cant stand flog supporters who tell others how you should support a team

its ****ing childish !!!!!!!!!! its something you hear from primary school kids

 

[Mr. Walker]

I miss Bill Russ

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Could easily see Beveridge being successful elsewhere. Something is rotten at the club right now.

People talk about senior player retiring and having the youngest list. What is concerning is the amount of players that have stagnated or gone backwards since 2016 when they should be in or moving into their prime years.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

hahah totally agree
i cant stand flog supporters who tell others how you should support a team

its ******* childish !!!!!!!!!! its something you hear from primary school kids

Key word. I wouldn’t refer to what some do on here as support.

 

[Mattdougie]

Could easily see Beveridge being successful elsewhere. Something is rotten at the club right now.

People talk about senior player retiring and having the youngest list. What is concerning is the amount of players that have stagnated or gone backwards since 2016 when they should be in or moving into their prime years.

And u assume it’s not Bev?

I’m not saying it is but that has to be a possibility.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Think your last paragraph is about right. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to question the job our leaders are doing and discuss what is best for the club.

I agree. We should absolutely question the way our club is heading and the way it's being run, but to throw the baby out with the bath water over and over again, achieves nothing.

Do we really have to have a crisis and an uproar to spark the club into action? I would hope we're far more professional and have moved well beyond that 60s/70s/80s/90s era.

Make the necessary changes, but let's hope we're smart.

Any talk of moving on Bevo is beyond a joke. Seriously dumb.

 

[Mattdougie]

I agree. We should absolutely question the way our club is heading and the way it's being run, but to throw the baby out with the bath water over and over again, achieves nothing.

Do we really have to have a crisis and an uproar to spark the club into action? I would hope we're far more professional and have moved well beyond that 60s/70s/80s/90s era.

Make the necessary changes, but let's hope we're smart.

Any talk of moving on Bevo is beyond a joke. Seriously dumb.

Who has seriously suggested moving Bev on?

Apart from blokes trying to get a reaction no one has said Bev needs to go.

 

[Zephiisdaman]

For what it's worth I reckon Bevo has run out of premiership credits. The drop-off last year was concerning enough but if you see the further drop-off this season then it is very obvious something is wrong. At least it appears to be from my point of view.

1 Name real improvers on our list other than Macrae, McLean and maybe Cordy. I see none.
2 The Stringer debacle.
3 JMac and Dalrymple leaving pretty much at same time
4 The inability to adapt to a different game style.
5 The reverse of the 1st point, the amount of our players that have actually dropped off the pace completely.

The next few points are not entirely Bevo's fault but he has input into the type of players we needed.

6 The lack of pace.
7 The lack of flair
8 The lack of indigenous talent
9 Goalkicking accuracy woes. Coaching issue?

I would like him to continue into next year but he would be on notice. If there is no improvement next year then a move will be required.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

And u assume it’s not Bev?

I’m not saying it is but that has to be a possibility.

I believe Beveridge would be better off at another club.

 

[Mattdougie]

I believe Beveridge would be better off at another club.

I believe Bev would be the same at another club and he is definitely a part of the problem at the moment.

Regardless of off field issues he has shown a complete inability, so far, to come up with a plan B and that wound be a major issue at any club.

 

[Mattdougie]

For what it's worth I reckon Bevo has run out of premiership credits. The drop-off last year was concerning enough but if you see the further drop-off this season then it is very obvious something is wrong. At least it appears to be from my point of view.

1 Name real improvers on our list other than Macrae, McLean and maybe Cordy. I see none.
2 The Stringer debacle.
3 JMac and Dalrymple leaving pretty much at same time
4 The inability to adapt to a different game style.
5 The reverse of the 1st point, the amount of our players that have actually dropped off the pace completely.

The next few points are not entirely Bevo's fault but he has input into the type of players we needed.

6 The lack of pace.
7 The lack of flair
8 The lack of indigenous talent
9 Goalkicking accuracy woes. Coaching issue?

I would like him to continue into next year but he would be on notice. If there is no improvement next year then a move will be required.

Lack of indigenous talent? You didn’t just say that did u?

How the hell does talent of any race help success?

Wow just wow I’m not even going to continue with that comment.