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Can we even service nuclear subs without the capacity to refine nuclear material?
Nuclear subs are mobile nuclear weapon platforms... we don't have nuclear weapons.
Maybe we will
Not sure how I feel about that
You're right that they don't need to be nuclear armed.Just because they're nuclear powered doesn't mean they're nuclear armed.
But we're now getting the second most powerful warships (after nuclear powered aircraft carriers) for our fleet.
This is massive.
You're right that they don't need to be nuclear armed.
What does the treaty say about nuclear weapons under the command of existing nuclear power nation officers on board non nuclear power nation ships?
Can Australia depend on US and other allied intervention should Australia come under attack?We wouldnt base nukes here for others. It makes zero sense, and just makes us a target which is silly considering it's unnecessary as our allies have ICBMs with global reach.
This doesn't seem to be getting any play in international media that I can see.
Can Australia depend on US and other allied intervention should Australia come under attack?
Will India leap to our defence with a nuclear retaliation?
Or will everyone keep their head down?
Can Australia depend on US and other allied intervention should Australia come under attack?
Will India leap to our defence with a nuclear retaliation?
Or will everyone keep their head down?
The USA has fought it's wars in other people's countries for a while now, I don't think it will be as likely to be in Australia if we can deploy nuclear weapons against waves of armour and we are less likely to be attacked if we have the capacity to retaliate.If any attack on Australia requires nuclear retaliation large portions of the US/UK/China/Russia/etc are likely smouldering ruins already and the human race is on the verge of extinction.
I'm not so sure we will get more than very serious and scathing words in our defense out of Washington DC.
They'll leave their own in a war zone who are trying to get out and then say they got out everyone who wanted to get out.I assure yoh the yanks would not sit back and let China just invade us.
Leaving aside it removes their only major ally in the region, would have them a global laughing stock and embolden China and Russia further, it would also involve them repudiating several major military pacts (CANZUK, AUKUS, 5 eyes etc), and leaving a 100 year old ally on its own.
They'll leave their own in a war zone who are trying to get out and then say they got out everyone who wanted to get out.
Where is the line between that and committing US troops to die for something that isn't their conflict?
I think we would need to false flag a Chinese attack on US soil and they would be here in a flash to fight their revenge war on Australian soil. I don't think they would be showing up to defend us, just like I think they will leave Taiwan to their fate if China made a serious move to occupy and control it.
What Chinese action against Australian interests reach the threshold of US involvement?Afghanistan was about pipelines to the Caspian. At the end of the day it became too pricey to maintain the occupation as opposed to leaving and striking a deal with the Taliban.
China invading Australia is a completely different kettle of fish. There is literally zero chance the Yanks wouldn't declare war in response and fully commit to repelling any invaders.
China's blue water Navy is no match for the USAs. China's navy would be destroyed within weeks, and they'd be simply unable to sustain any troops they may have actually landed on the mainland here.
Its simply not going to happen. China aren't going to risk all their gains by confronting the States.
What Chinese action against Australian interests reach the threshold of US involvement?
The point I was alluding to was that China is already attacking both the US and Australia causing actual material harm economically to various sectors of our economy.We're already cooperating with America closely re freedom of navigation in the SC Sea and in response to Chinese cyberwarfare, and the US rely on our DSD and their own bases here to monitor the Chinese closely.
An attack on Australia would be treated much the same as an attack on the USA.
For all their posturing and cyber and economic attacks, China would be flat out stupid to actually attack either nation.
Japan tried it once remember, also while they were on the rise. It didn't exactly work out well for them.
The biggest threat at the moment is a miscalculation or mistake in heightened tensions. A warning shot or show of force that sinks an opposing naval vessel or is misconstrued as a preemtive strike.
Its also only a matter of time with Taiwan. China will most likely continue economic, IT and political influence over the country, seeking to destabilise it and get a pro unification (or pro independence) movement to flourish as a false flag to militarily intervene.
They won't risk sending troops unless they're sure the Yanks won't intervene. It's literally the only thing stopping them at the moment.
The point I was alluding to was that China is already attacking both the US and Australia causing actual material harm economically to various sectors of our economy.
When does that warrant reply? Because we don't have the muscle to enforce anything with them and I don't think the US will do anything to assist us in that.
If there was a deep sea joint base designed to service the submarine fleet of all three nations on the Pacific coast somewhere, so there is almost always one around, then it would really get them upset.I think the CCP are doing a good enough job of destroying their own economy at the moment.
Its pointless us adding any fuel to that fire.
The CCP will be pissed off about this. So too are the French!!!
Posting this theory as it's blue-ticked
Seems a bit uninteresting for all the hubbub though?
Why would the UK government be involved in this announcement?
I think that distinction has been lost in a lot of the coverage.Just because they're nuclear powered doesn't mean they're nuclear armed.