Malthouse apologises

[Snag Breac]

You sir, are a moron.

You, sir, are a Carlton supporter; enough said. And I won't be apologising for that piece of vilification.

 

[Snag Breac]

Just got this from Mick;

Dear Snaggies,
Following my apology for inappropriate comments I made to Stephen Milne, I would like to take this opportunity to inform you of the reasoning behind the initial position I took in the post-match press conference on Friday night.

When asked if I was directing comments at St Kilda players or my own players, I chose the latter option basically under the old code of what happens on the field stays on the field.
I largely took this decision based on my belief that, if I had said I was directing comments at a St Kilda player(s), this would lead to follow up questions such as "who were you talking to?", "what did you say?", "were you responding to provocation?", etc etc. This would in turn create unnecessary angst and controversy for both clubs, and individuals from both clubs.

However, having seen that St Kilda and their players were obviously aggrieved the next day, and with St Kilda wanting to take the matter further, and having reflected on my involvement in the verbal exchange, I felt it was necessary for me to acknowledge the inappropriate nature of my comments, and to offer the subsequent apology.

I strenuously object to being branded a liar. I acknowledge my original position has caused me much embarrassment and my family great distress, but the reason I reacted to the question the way I did was because at that moment, I felt it was the best outcome not to drag the two clubs and a number of individuals into an obvious controversy.

I've been involved in the game for over four decades and have always had the best interests of the game at heart, and will continue to do so.

I hope this explanation, in conjunction with my record and reputation, gives you, the Collingwood supporter, a greater understanding of this situation.

In terms of the game against St Kilda, they are really good football side, and while there were pleasing elements to come out of the game, we obviously made it very difficult for ourselves through really poor kicking for goal. Against a good side you can't afford to do this. We are absolutely intent on rectifying this, and my focus, along with that of the team is solely now on preparing for Hawthorn.

I also object to Mick's being branded a liar.

 

[MarkT2]

I'm not questioning his playing career or what he achieved.

What I do dislike is he is the first to lay into us about everything. He is also more wring then right on everything he talks about

He isn't first and he isn't actually often wrong. It's his job to comment and he does without fear like how he played. What has he actually said that has been wrong? I reckon a few things about his family's treatement at Collingwood would have been better left unsaid but generally he has been accurate and time has shown this up. He is no rocket scientist but he isn't alone amonst players and media there.

 

[TheStinger]

I object to your coach covering a lie up with another lie and then complaining about being called a liar. He quite emphatically stated at the press conference that he was talking to his own players, not the Saints players at all.

Then a few days later he says he was just trying to uphold the What is said on the field stays on the field mantra. If that was so, why did he not say "Yes, there was a bit of banter between the two groups. Things were said by both groups but I don't want to go into it. Let's just move on."

I would have accepted that. I am pretty sure it would have died almost immediately, although the AFL might still have investigated. But no, he decided to lie and when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary, lied again in his attempt to "apologise".

I am not making things up here, this is how it happened. What was said by each party is irrelevant in this case. The aftermath was of far more significance than anything that was said on the field by anyone.

 

[bucksisbest]

Malthouse lies to the media every week , this just had more legs than he anticipated.

 

[Optimax]

He isn't first and he isn't actually often wrong. It's his job to comment and he does without fear like how he played. What has he actually said that has been wrong? I reckon a few things about his family's treatement at Collingwood would have been better left unsaid but generally he has been accurate and time has shown this up. He is no rocket scientist but he isn't alone amonst players and media there.

Mark if he didn't bag us constantly you wouldn't take note

regardless collingwood threw a premiership away by getting jolly instead of fev was a pearler this preseason

swearing blue murder we mistreated rhyce was so classic

before trading tarrant saying we needed to move him on, now he's gone we shouldve kept him

oh yeah hardly wrong, especially when he flip flops

 

[TheStinger]

Malthouse lies to the media every week , this just had more legs than he anticipated.

Most of the time though his lies are entertaining and made to sidestep a curly question. This was just silly and ill-advised.

 

[The Panther]

I object to your coach covering a lie up with another lie and then complaining about being called a liar

It's been a forgetable episode but Mick has no obiligation to you. Even moreso when a person of questionable character instigated the whole episode, Steven Milne. The booing of Luke Ball, a person who gave his all for St. Kilda compared to the backing of a questionable character sums up the lack of morals your FC has.

 

[TheStinger]

It's been a forgetable episode but Mick has no obiligation to you. Even moreso when a person of questionable character instigated the whole episode, Steven Milne. The booing of Luke Ball, a person who gave his all for St. Kilda compared to the backing of a questionable character sums up the lack of morals your FC has.

Mick has no obligation to me, absolutely. He does however have an obligation to himself and his football club to not be branded a liar through his own actions.

As for Milne's "questionable character", he has never been found guilty of anything other than being a pest on the field. One accusation does not make someone a serial offender worthy of being being branded a questionable person.

The booing of Luke Ball, whilst being rather unseemly was to be expected due to the way the matter played out. Has nothing to do with our FC, just our fans having a gutfull of the whole affair and expressing an opinion.

As for sledging, whilst Milne maybe one of the most overachieving in this area, he has a fair way to go to reach the levels of one T. Shaw.

 

[Smoky]

Mick has no obligation to me, absolutely. He does however have an obligation to himself and his football club to not be branded a liar through his own actions.

As for Milne's "questionable character", he has never been found guilty of anything other than being a pest on the field. One accusation does not make someone a serial offender worthy of being being branded a questionable person.

The booing of Luke Ball, whilst being rather unseemly was to be expected due to the way the matter played out. Has nothing to do with our FC, just our fans having a gutfull of the whole affair and expressing an opinion.

As for sledging, whilst Milne maybe one of the most overachieving in this area, he has a fair way to go to reach the levels of one T. Shaw.

Seriously you're going back 20 or so years to make a point negative to Collingwood? Why are you here... go to the main board where Saints fans have a free run on this issue.

 

[TheStinger]

Seriously you're going back 20 or so years to make a point negative to Collingwood? Why are you here... go to the main board where Saints fans have a free run on this issue.

Well I could say that Didak is one of the best sledgers going round at the moment, but you can't beat the classics.

Good to see you didn't refute anything I said though, just attack a throwaway line. It's easier for you.

 

[couchy555]

This would have been over much quicker if mick hadn't of lied. Shouldn't of stared down the media and told em nup, its only pissed them off, now its all were gonna read about for the next week.

 

[StillWaiting5689]

This would have been over much quicker if mick hadn't of lied. Shouldn't of stared down the media and told em nup, its only pissed them off, now its all were gonna read about for the next week.

This, if you lie to the media and then it comes out all you have done is piss them off and now they won't let it go until next round. I have no issue with the sledging but think the whole thing should have been handled better post-game, either way though I think a mountain has been made of a molehill - coaches and players would lie to the media regularly - the problem here though is that Mick got found out quickly and the media are going to build this up more than necessary.

 

[db swannie]

Just want to say that (as has been said before) there is little to no love for Milne (apart from his own supporters) and he IMO is a filthy little tiprat and a bigmouth. Only concern is MM doing the 180degree about face. No matter how he's dressed it up (what's said on the field...blahblah) it just looks like he lied about it, and what's more, surely he must've known that there would be cameras bearing down on him as he went the spray?

But like many have said, he couldn't have picked a better arseh*le to have a go at IMO.

 

[half_back_flank]

Well I could say that Didak is one of the best sledgers going round at the moment, but you can't beat the classics.

Good to see you didn't refute anything I said though, just attack a throwaway line. It's easier for you.

Has Dids or Shaw ever complained about being sledged? No, they haven't, because they both know that he who gives will receive.

Milne struggles with this concept, to say the least. Now kindly **** off our board please.

 

[TheStinger]

Has Dids or Shaw ever complained about being sledged? No, they haven't, because they both know that he who gives will receive.

Milne struggles with this concept, to say the least. Now kindly **** off our board please.

First off, I have been nothing but respectful and serious on your board, I just happen to have a different opinion to you. No need for that.

Second, and lets get this right (sorry to steal Malthouse's line), Milne was not the one who complained. Ross Lyon was asked about the incident at half time and said that the club would be having a look at the altercation and going from there.

Milne ultimately was fined as well. Milne gave as good as he got and it was the club that pursued it, and only because it was a senior coach doing the sledging, which is not the normal thing.

The matter was looked at by the AFL and all parties were given their right whack. The personal attacks on Milne from a number of angles is unneccessary and only further inflames a situation that is now over.

 

[DThomas]

You sir, are a moron.

I also don't give a shit what some Carlton flog thinks as well!

Enjoy bottom 4 this year, and enjoy watching us flog you in round 6. Moron.

 

[half_back_flank]

First off, I have been nothing but respectful and serious on your board, I just happen to have a different opinion to you. No need for that.

Second, and lets get this right (sorry to steal Malthouse's line), Milne was not the one who complained. Ross Lyon was asked about the incident at half time and said that the club would be having a look at the altercation and going from there.

Milne ultimately was fined as well. Milne gave as good as he got and it was the club that pursued it, and only because it was a senior coach doing the sledging, which is not the normal thing.

The matter was looked at by the AFL and all parties were given their right whack. The personal attacks on Milne from a number of angles is unneccessary and only further inflames a situation that is now over.

Fair enough, you have been respectful when you have been here, i take that back.

It doesn't matter if it was a player or coach that abused Milne(in my argument that Milne gives it but can't take it), he still gave out the sledge to MM but couldn't hack the return of serve. Even if the it was the actually St Kilda Football club that intended to make the official complaint to the AFL, it would not have gone ahead with out Milne agreeing to it, and significant input from Milne himself.

Your last sentence lets you down though, if Milne didnt want to be closely analysed, why did he give permission to the SKFC to make a complaint?

 

[Taskmaster]

Im with you here Pies Fans. So what if Mick called Milne a F....... Rapist.

Truth hurts.

 

[charmer]

First off, I have been nothing but respectful and serious on your board, I just happen to have a different opinion to you. No need for that.

Second, and lets get this right (sorry to steal Malthouse's line), Milne was not the one who complained. Ross Lyon was asked about the incident at half time and said that the club would be having a look at the altercation and going from there.

Milne ultimately was fined as well. Milne gave as good as he got and it was the club that pursued it, and only because it was a senior coach doing the sledging, which is not the normal thing.

The matter was looked at by the AFL and all parties were given their right whack. The personal attacks on Milne from a number of angles is unneccessary and only further inflames a situation that is now over.

No, Mick gave as good as he got...in fact, he did much better