Malthouse: What changes can we expect?

[Poseidon]

The current playing group hasn't played under a no bullshit type coach yet, will be interested to see how some of our softer players like Garlett and Gibbs respond. Also interested to see how Judd goes under Malthouse, will Mick put more effort into blocking and protecting so he can get a clear run at the footy?

Also I expect the weekly e-mails from the coach to stop

 

[reg_lower91]

An increase in attention to our defensive side.
An increased focus on disposal efficiency & decision making. I hope.

 

[Windhover]

I expect Casboult, if he wants a game, to have his whole body tattoed, Garlett to have his right arm tattoed and Brock to play with a ring in his nose.

 

[NAUGHT5]

Brock McLean and Mick will be a match made in heaven.
I just want to see Gibbs, Henderson, Kreuzer, Yarran, Garlett and Lucas step up and realise their potential. They're too timid and it's time that was rectified.

 

[gbatman]

Lots of change is coming. The Carlton way of doing thing is finally dead (thank god).

Backline
We will be taller. Flankers and pockets will be taller. No small defenders unless they are good all round footballers that can read the game, run, attack and rebound well like Yarran. No more over defensive small blokes who don't get a lot of it and don't hurt the opposition when they do. Bad news for AJ. Jamison likely to go to a back flank and play a similar role to Maxwell. Watson and Henderson to be the key position players. Walker to play a similar role to O’Brian and play on the good smalls. Yarran to remain in defence. Gibbs likely to remain in defence/wing and be used similar to the way he used Johnson. Robinson likely to spend time in defence and on a wing too. Malthouse does not like the forwards to be taller than the backs.
Ratten often went in small in defence. Not afraid to play undersized KPPs and did not like too many players 192cm+. Did not back KPP sized players to beat flanker types. Ratten liked to have smalls on smalls, Malthouse doesn’t mind mediums on smalls and talls on mediums.

Midfield
More emphasis on size, strength and contested ball winning ability in the center. Expecting McLean and Bell to spend a lot of time in the center (together) and doing the push and shove work and providing blocks with just one genuine quick rover type in there who will utilise the space created by the two strong bodies. McLean, Bell and maybe Curnow to do a similar job to Ball and Swan. Judd, Carrazzo and Murphy to spend more time outside the square either up forward or charging through the center hard from off the line and spending more time out in space running and creating. Judd likely to spend time on a wing and possibly half back, perhaps switching with Gibbs/Yarran. Hard tags and one way running is gone. All players will have to be accountable but no one will be really tagging hard. Carrazzo is the example of what Malthouse will want from all his midfielders. I expect our possession count will rise a bit too.

Ratten liked to throw all his class into the guts and was for a long time pace obsessed, though not so much towards the end. I felt that all 3 of Carlton’s onballer’s were trying to win the ball instead of trying to help a team mate win it with the lack of blocking and focus on out positioning opponants in there and no one coming in hard from outside the square. There was also no balance between defence and attack from the onballers.

Forward line
Will always have at least 1-2 midfielders spending time there. Will always have 2-3 talls, mostly 3, two key position types and a part time ruckman. Mick liked to have midfield types and young developing midfielders in his forward lines. Buckley could be breathing down Armfield/Garletts necks if they aren’t up. Forward line will be very different.

Game plan
More emphasis on making the opposition kick long to their forwards. We wont allow the opposition to carry the ball forwards of stoppages at all. We should be better at deciding when to take the ball up the boundary line or when to go up the wing or center. We will be holding it up more at half forward and using the sideways kick across half forward to get the ball in a more central position when entering inside 50. We will be moving the ball slower and with more control from defence to attack so we don’t get caught out with no one forward of the ball to kick to and so we don’t put the ball carrier under pressure. Reducing midfield turnovers will be on the cards. We will be taking longer at times to go inside 50 to a contest so that we have time to set up a forward press properly. Forward momentum at stoppages to get past that wall of players blocking run will be an emphasis. Managing onfield fatigue so that we don’t run out of gas and so we have a less taxing, less break neck speed game style so that we find consistency will be on the agenda. Switching play more is likely to be on the agenda too. Less reliance on individuals which is a big change from the Carlton way of doing things. So less reliance on Jamison, Judd and Waite.

How I think we will line up under Malthouse

B: Jamison Watson Laidler
HB: Walker Henderson Yarran
C: Judd Mclean Gibbs
HF: Betts Casboult Carrazzo
F: Garlett Waite Mitchell
OB: Kreuzer Bell Murphy
IC: Armfield Simpson Scotland Robinson

*If we get Cloke then he plays instead of Mitchell and Casboult goes to the pocket.
*A Young developing midfielder is likely to also play forward, perhaps Buckley instead of Garlett if his form doesn’t improve.

The last gun team Mick put together (2010 Premiership):
B: Maxwell N Brown Toovey
HB: O'Brian Reid Shaw
C: Wellingham Swan Johnson
HF: Didak Cloke Thomas
F: Beams Dawes L Brown
OB: Jolly Ball Pendlebury
IC: Blair Sidebottom Macaffer Goldsack

The only real structural differences here is that Collingwood’s forward line consisted of a few developing midfield types. I get the feeling that Malthouse may be keen to play Buckley instead one of these specialist forwards (Garlett/Armfield).
I'm very excited for next year.

 

[jj1978]

Judd and McClean will become better... Judd will have the weight of the team taken off his shoulders... McClean will be the Luke ball of our team wouldn't be surprised if he's out in the leadership group. Things will be shaken up.

 

[gardiner stand]

Brock McLean and Mick will be a match made in heaven.
I just want to see Gibbs, Henderson, Kreuzer, Yarran, Garlett and Lucas step up and realise their potential. They're too timid and it's time that was rectifdie.

this must happen

 

[Dominator_7]

- Players with big reputations within the Club to be shocked by what people outside Carlton really think of them and their ability. It's the wake up call they need!
- No more players getting gimme games based on their reputation (eg Garlett)
- The 'downhill skiers' and 'too Judd dependant' labels on our team will be gone never to return.
- We ll now have Plan A, B, C and D instead of Plan A or bust

 

[le dominateur]

Good post Batman, that is one hell of a tall backline, still think Duigan will get a game. Be interesting to see if Laidler can get back from his injuries.
B: Jamison Watson Duigan/Laidler
HB: Walker Henderson Yarran

 

[NAUGHT5]

I don't see how Mick can now, not
Don't let their quiet appearances lead you to think Henderson and Kreuzer to be timid.
Pretty aggressive beasts, the both of them.

I think youre right. But I don't believe Ratten was successful in bringing that side of them out nearly enough.

 

[Sector 7G]

- Players with big reputations within the Club to be shocked by what people outside Carlton really think of them and their ability. It's the wake up call they need!
- No more players getting gimme games based on their reputation (eg Garlett)
- The 'downhill skiers' and 'too Judd dependant' labels on our team will be gone never to return.
- We ll now have Plan A, B, C and D instead of Plan A or bust

Where was plan b in last years grand final? While Mick is good at many thing I am not sure if he ever came up with innovative moves during games.

 

[gbatman]

Good post Batman, that is one hell of a tall backline, still think Duigan will get a game. Be interesting to see if Laidler can get back from his injuries.
B: Jamison Watson Duigan/Laidler
HB: Walker Henderson Yarran

I left out a lot of good players like Duigan, Touhy, Curnow and Lucas. I just took a great example of a Malthouse structured team and tried to match it with the best players we had. Can't fit them all in. But quite impressed with the quality that team contains. Will be really interesting.

 

[Dominator_7]

Where was plan b in last years grand final? While Mick is good at many thing I am not sure if he ever came up with innovative moves during games.

You dont dont go Prelim, Semi, Prelim, Premiers, Runners Up in your last 5 years at the Filth without having a plan B, C or D...
The difference between Mick and Ratts is that Mick beleives in system over talent. Ratts was the opposite, and as soon as we started getting injuries and our gameplan got picked apart, our season was dead in the water.

 

[Sector 7G]

You dont dont go Prelim, Semi, Prelim, Premiers, Runners Up in your last 5 years at the Filth without having a plan B, C or D...
The difference between Mick and Ratts is that Mick beleives in system over talent. Ratts was the opposite, and as soon as we started getting injuries and our gameplan got picked apart, our season was dead in the water.

Geelong went Premier, Runner UP, Premier, Prelim, Premier without a plan B so I think you can. What changes did Malthouse make in the 2010 GF when Goddard and Hayes were dragging the Saints back into the game without the help their other 20 teammates? He backed his team structure to come through and if it wasn't for a bad bounce they would have lost the GF ( don't worry about the bad bounce which wrong footed Milne's opponent in the first place). I agree that Malthouse is strong on system but not sure if he is prepared to throw it out the window and adopt a plan B.

 

[Blues_1864]

(a) Kicking skills and more kicking skills (I actually wrote "Licking skills" to start with, but hopefully those won't be necessary ). (b) Blocking and more blocking. At least one more mid- to large body than we are used to in the forward-line to run interference, allowing Waite and Betts to escape on the lead. Casboult perfectly suited if he is coachable enough, because even if Waite and Betts stay covered, you can still kick it to Levi.

Personnel changes (or lack thereof) I envisage:

- Scotland a certainty to play on, as a very good kick in a side with too few.
- Joseph pretty much finished at AFL level.
- Lucas to play much more senior football.
- Curnow unlikely to be upgraded to the main list (that's tough, I like him, but I think that's how it will go). O'Keeffe probably a better chance for that spot.
- More game time for our youngest players. Mick has a history of putting them out there on the biggest stages, and finding out who can play. Even if they go back to the reserves soon afterwards, the experience holds them in good stead, and I am looking forward to seeing more of it.

 

[JustaBattler]

Malthouses ideas have proven to have provided a fairly continuous period of consistency and success - he started with GF lost rebuilt and ended with a GF after many many final8 and top4 finishes - you could argue that this consistency underwrote a huge growth in membership ..

Not enough credit is given - because MickMalthouse is 'crusty' and 'feisty' - rather than a continual blow sugar up media's arses type of personality. Journos hate him personally and love his story generating power. They hate but respect - isn't that what Carlton wants?

 

[Dramoth]

I'm expecting more of a focus on slower, more deliberate ball use. I really hated the idea of playing this style with the team we had, but since Casboult came in and showed he can take a contested mark I'm a lot more optimistic about it

I am still expecting us to play at a fast pace. But I am expecting a lot more deliberation about our spread and distribution.

I'm also expecting some of the boys to finally start playing with an edge.

I also want to see that ****ing corralling bullshit disappear and the boys to start laying hard tackles that leave their opponents lying on the ground wondering what the **** hit them. We're playing football boys... not tiddly wanks

 

[Jock]

I expect we will see less poor games from players where they lack in contribution. They will be expected, no sorry demanded to get involved more if they are not getting a kick. More blocks, working back, sticking to the structure, discipline to defend space, more voice, holding tackles for dear life, more selfless acts. It will be more about the little things and everyone doing them, no exceptions or they just wont get a game. I don't think Mick believes in silver bullets, he just truly believes in a total team first approach. He will love Carrazzo, he wont need to change a bit.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

I am still expecting us to play at a fast pace. But I am expecting a lot more deliberation about our spread and distribution.

I'm also expecting some of the boys to finally start playing with an edge.

I also want to see that ******* corralling bullshit disappear and the boys to start laying hard tackles that leave their opponents lying on the ground wondering what the **** hit them. We're playing football boys... not tiddly wanks

Tom Bell for tackling coach

 

[Stamos]

You dont dont go Prelim, Semi, Prelim, Premiers, Runners Up in your last 5 years at the Filth without having a plan B, C or D...

Not sure you watched much of Collingwood in 2010 and 2011.
There was no plan B at all. But their plan A beat most teams.

 

[mediumsizered]

Where was plan b in last years grand final? While Mick is good at many thing I am not sure if he ever came up with innovative moves during games.

^^^^
This, but not just for Malthouse, but for all coaches. Where was Chris Scott's Plan B at the weekend? Or where is Clarko's Plan B everytime Hawthorn play Geelong? How about Hird-Thompson's Plan B when Essendon are being totally walloped by us (it has happened 3 times in Hird-Thompson's short time as coach of Essendon)?

Plan B does not exist in the arsenal of any AFL coach. If it did, those teams fortunate enough to be coached by a coach with a Plan B would be perennially undefeated. Plan B is a figment of the imagination of those supporters who have agendas related to certain coaches.

 

[Silvagnis]

Yarran to become one of Mick's favourites and play up the ground like Chris Lewis and Dale Thomas. Yarran doesn't approach the game like Robinson, but the public underestimate his competitive side and incorrectly see him as a flaky receiver. Think his competitive shows with the way Yarran has sledged players and given them a gobful on the field. Struggle to recall Gibbs sledging like Yarran who politely reminded Carlisle that Walker just stood on his head.

 

[Stamos]

Plan B does not exist in the arsenal of any AFL coach. If it did, those teams fortunate enough to be coached by a coach with a Plan B would be perennially undefeated. Plan B is a figment of the imagination of those supporters who have agendas related to certain coaches.

Although what about Geelong's plan B in the 2011 Grand Final?
The way Chris Scott planned for Podsiadly to get himself concussed and subbed off was brilliant.

 

[mediumsizered]

Although what about Geelong's plan B in the 2011 Grand Final?
The way Chris Scott planned for Podsiadly to get himself concussed and subbed off was brilliant.

That was a master stroke from Scott, but credit must also go to Pods for ensuring he received the right amount of contact to result in concussion.

 

[zeeCFC]

Here's a comparison of Mick's 2010 premiership side versus our equivalents.

B: Maxwell Laidler, Brown Jamison, Davis Yarran
HB: O'Brien McInnes, Reid Henderson, Shaw Tuohy
C: Wellingham Simpson, Swan Judd, Thomas Gibbs
HF: Didak Walker, Cloke ?????, Beams Garlett
FF: Brown Hampson, Dawes Waite, Sidebottom Betts
R: Jolly Kreuzer, Ball Murphy, Pendlebury Carrazzo
IC: Johnson Scotland, Blair Mclean, Toovey Robinson, Macaffer Armfield

Fairly even but the top liners in Collingwood's midfield of Ball-Swan-Pendlebury gives them the midfield edge on paper, we've shown them up with both sides missing key players.

The Yarran dilemma is an interesting one, we don't have another player that can sufficiently fill his role down back but Mick would love him higher up the ground.

Gibbs' progression AGAIN makes a huge difference.