Mandatory detention of refugees (Stop the boats. 5k a head. Part 2)
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That's quite offensive to effluent.
Refugee Council of Australia response to people smugglers argument:
"Economic status has no impact on refugee status. A refugee is someone who has a well-founded fear of being persecuted because of their race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion. It makes no difference whether a refugee is rich or poor – the point is that they are at risk of, or have experienced, persecution.
Many refugees who come to Australia are educated middle-class people whose advocacy work, political opinions or profession (e.g. journalists, lawyers) has drawn them to the attention of the authorities and resulted in their persecution."
"Everyone agrees that we should stop people smuggling ventures which exploit asylum seekers and place them in danger. No one wishes to see asylum seekers board unreliable vessels and risk their lives to reach Australia. However, penalising desperate and vulnerable people, who have not committed any crime and are in need of protection and assistance, is not the answer. Policies which put people at risk, inflict harm on asylum seekers or deliberately impede access to effective protection are not acceptable ways of addressing the problem.
Asylum seekers are drawn to Australia because it has been seen as one of the few countries in the region which respects international law and human rights, treats people humanely and protects refugees and asylum seekers from being returned to situations of danger or persecution. These are not “soft” policies but responses built on basic standards of human decency. Australians should be proud that Australia has enjoyed an international reputation for respecting human rights . Attempting to change this reputation by treating asylum seekers inhumanely would make us little better than the countries from which they are fleeing.
In any case, the “push” factors that compel refugees to flee their homes will always be more compelling than the “pull” factors in countries like Australia. Refugee flows are primarily affected by war, unrest, violence and human rights violations. Most people do not wish to leave their homes, families, friends and everything they know and hold dear. They do so as a last resort, to escape persecution and find safety and security for themselves and their families. For many refugees, this search for safety does not end once they have escaped their country of origin. Many countries fail or refuse to provide effective protection to refugees and conditions are often very difficult; sometimes, conditions are little better than those from which refugees originally fled. These conditions drive many people to seek protection elsewhere in the hopes of finding genuine safety and effective protection – including through enlisting people smugglers and undertaking risky journeys at sea.
So long as refugees aren’t getting the protection to which they are entitled, people smugglers will have a product to sell. To put the smugglers out of business, we need to ensure that people who need protection actually get it by working with other countries to improve conditions for refugees and asylum seekers."
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"Economic status has no impact on refugee status. A refugee is someone who has a well-founded fear of being persecuted because of their race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion. It makes no difference whether a refugee is rich or poor – the point is that they are at risk of, or have experienced, persecution.
Many refugees who come to Australia are educated middle-class people whose advocacy work, political opinions or profession (e.g. journalists, lawyers) has drawn them to the attention of the authorities and resulted in their persecution."
"Everyone agrees that we should stop people smuggling ventures which exploit asylum seekers and place them in danger. No one wishes to see asylum seekers board unreliable vessels and risk their lives to reach Australia. However, penalising desperate and vulnerable people, who have not committed any crime and are in need of protection and assistance, is not the answer. Policies which put people at risk, inflict harm on asylum seekers or deliberately impede access to effective protection are not acceptable ways of addressing the problem.
Asylum seekers are drawn to Australia because it has been seen as one of the few countries in the region which respects international law and human rights, treats people humanely and protects refugees and asylum seekers from being returned to situations of danger or persecution. These are not “soft” policies but responses built on basic standards of human decency. Australians should be proud that Australia has enjoyed an international reputation for respecting human rights . Attempting to change this reputation by treating asylum seekers inhumanely would make us little better than the countries from which they are fleeing.
In any case, the “push” factors that compel refugees to flee their homes will always be more compelling than the “pull” factors in countries like Australia. Refugee flows are primarily affected by war, unrest, violence and human rights violations. Most people do not wish to leave their homes, families, friends and everything they know and hold dear. They do so as a last resort, to escape persecution and find safety and security for themselves and their families. For many refugees, this search for safety does not end once they have escaped their country of origin. Many countries fail or refuse to provide effective protection to refugees and conditions are often very difficult; sometimes, conditions are little better than those from which refugees originally fled. These conditions drive many people to seek protection elsewhere in the hopes of finding genuine safety and effective protection – including through enlisting people smugglers and undertaking risky journeys at sea.
So long as refugees aren’t getting the protection to which they are entitled, people smugglers will have a product to sell. To put the smugglers out of business, we need to ensure that people who need protection actually get it by working with other countries to improve conditions for refugees and asylum seekers."
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And that obligation is one of the major reasons why Australia should withdraw from the UN convention on refugees. There should be no restrictions or appeals that prevent us deporting immediately any foreigner who commits any offence or could pose a threat to Australians.
In addition, entry into Australia is a privilege not a right and the government of the day should have absolute power to remove any non citizen if it is the in national interest. Given that we have a massive debt and are unable to take care of our own people, it is clear that our refugee intake should be reduced to zero - we have been doing far more than our share for far too long and it is time we took care of ourselves even the refugee advocates admitted that we were fourth in the world in 2015 (based on refugees accepted from UNHCR per head of population and second for refugees accepted from UNHCR per GDP )
The only people who should be hanging their heads in shame are the welfare seeker advocates who lured more than 1200 people to their death at sea and want to reopen our borders so that 1000s more die at sea; we are supporting tens of thousands on welfare each year, not to mention the many Australians of all backgrounds who have suffered from the crime waves caused by Sudanese refugees who can't be deported thanks to the outdated UN refugee convention.
Quoting Nick McKim.
Scraping the bottom of a very shallow barrel.
Scraping the bottom of a very shallow barrel.
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So he's relented in the meekest way he could manage
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http://www.medianet.com.au/releases/148889/
OPEN LETTER TO THE PRIME MINISTER & OPPOSITION LEADER
FROM FORMER AUSTRALIANS OF THE YEAR
Dear Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten,
We, as former Australians of the Year, representing the hearts and minds of the nation, are deeply concerned about the health and human disaster that is unfolding on Manus Island.
In the coming days, it is inevitable that people will become sick and even die through the lack of basic sanitation, food, water, and medical care.
Australians from all walks of life, from all sides of the political spectrum, are hoping that the Australian Government, with support from the Opposition, will now move to prevent these consequences of neglect. We believe that it is time to stop the unacceptable and internationally criticised treatment of the refugees on Manus Island, who, though innocent of any crime, have been incarcerated and now abandoned there.
This treatment does not represent who we are as Australians, or indeed as human beings.
We should not withhold water from people, nor withhold food; we should not leave seriously ill people to die without medication and treatment.
We are also concerned about Australia’s international reputation in human rights. It seems that both our major political parties have failed to meet their most basic obligations under the United Nations Refugee Convention, one that our country helped to negotiate and which we signed in 1951.
The irony of Australia’s recent appointment to the UN Council for Human Rights is palpable. Do we now condemn our own actions?
We plead with you to immediately restore all essential services to the men on Manus Island. Please allow the Australian Medical Association to provide medical and preventive care, as they have recently offered, as soon as possible. At the same time please find safe haven for the acknowledged genuine refugees without any further delay.
We cannot see any good for Australia to pursue this policy in connection with Manus Island. We believe that the Australian Government is the one that needs to act in this matter and not the government of Papua New Guinea.
Yours sincerely,
Australians of the Year
2015 Rosie Batty
2013 Ita Buttrose
2011 Simon McKeon
2010 Patrick McGorry
2009 Mick Dodson
2007 Tim Flannery
2005 Fiona Wood
2003 Fiona Stanley
2000 Gustav Nossal
1997 Peter Doherty
1996 John Yu
1983 Robert de Castella
OPEN LETTER TO THE PRIME MINISTER & OPPOSITION LEADER
FROM FORMER AUSTRALIANS OF THE YEAR
Dear Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten,
We, as former Australians of the Year, representing the hearts and minds of the nation, are deeply concerned about the health and human disaster that is unfolding on Manus Island.
In the coming days, it is inevitable that people will become sick and even die through the lack of basic sanitation, food, water, and medical care.
Australians from all walks of life, from all sides of the political spectrum, are hoping that the Australian Government, with support from the Opposition, will now move to prevent these consequences of neglect. We believe that it is time to stop the unacceptable and internationally criticised treatment of the refugees on Manus Island, who, though innocent of any crime, have been incarcerated and now abandoned there.
This treatment does not represent who we are as Australians, or indeed as human beings.
We should not withhold water from people, nor withhold food; we should not leave seriously ill people to die without medication and treatment.
We are also concerned about Australia’s international reputation in human rights. It seems that both our major political parties have failed to meet their most basic obligations under the United Nations Refugee Convention, one that our country helped to negotiate and which we signed in 1951.
The irony of Australia’s recent appointment to the UN Council for Human Rights is palpable. Do we now condemn our own actions?
We plead with you to immediately restore all essential services to the men on Manus Island. Please allow the Australian Medical Association to provide medical and preventive care, as they have recently offered, as soon as possible. At the same time please find safe haven for the acknowledged genuine refugees without any further delay.
We cannot see any good for Australia to pursue this policy in connection with Manus Island. We believe that the Australian Government is the one that needs to act in this matter and not the government of Papua New Guinea.
Yours sincerely,
Australians of the Year
2015 Rosie Batty
2013 Ita Buttrose
2011 Simon McKeon
2010 Patrick McGorry
2009 Mick Dodson
2007 Tim Flannery
2005 Fiona Wood
2003 Fiona Stanley
2000 Gustav Nossal
1997 Peter Doherty
1996 John Yu
1983 Robert de Castella
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A "small number" of asylum seekers on Manus Island were arrested by Papua New Guinea police today as they tried to clear the closed immigration detention centre, Peter Dutton has confirmed.
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Yet none of them offers asylum for these illegals elsewhere?
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More propaganda. Trash the joint, then don't clean it up, a job that would take an hour out of their 20 odd days without food or water, then record it saying they are living in, self manufactured, squalor
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I hope they haven't broken his new iPhone prototype with a never ending battery life
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Well done to them.
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Squatting is legal now is it?
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Amazing juxtapositioning. The oppressed, heart broken, shattered individual living in mess created by oneself that would take 10 minutes to cleanup. Boochani is the next Tesla. Self charging mobiles, self engineered wifi and phone signal, surely will get some award from this.
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Yet chooses not to share any of them, rather just her unchecked, undocumented personal thoughts borderlining on blatant propaganda
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Almost two weeks later and no response to the Refugee Council of Australia's comments on the claim that tough border protection policies will save lives and stop people smugglers.
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