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Hmm..I think Supa was right Pro....

Managed = rested in this case.
 
David the Cat said:
Hmm..I think Supa was right Pro....

Managed = rested in this case.
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I wish i knew it was proboys avatar before i stole it. Will change it when i remember.

But i disagree. Managed is a more correct term than rested. And i hope the club uses this from now on. It is more professional and doesn't have the stigma of 'dropping' players.

Blitz hasn't "earnt a rest", his workload on his body is being scientifically managed. The two terms are worlds apart in the professionalism they present to the football world.

Our great club does well to revolutionise the game. This is just another small part of that.
 
Could be an element of conservatism WRT " managing" Ballroom this week
Didn't he get a knock to the foot or lower leg in last weeks game ?
Limped around for a while but played the game out , might be precautionary this week?
 

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Chris Scott said he would be rested weeks ago and probably would have happened long ago if we had a second ruckman.
Now that Vardy is fit and able to do some rucking makes it the perfect time .
2 weeks off will bring him back fresh,given he has played 4 VFL games only since his school days he has been fantastic. Club and CS are thinking long term.
 
There is an interesting article in The Age today about the somewhat current trend in AFL of trying to transform athletes or those from other sporting backgrounds into AFL players, with the focus this time on former Saints rookie Blake McGrath. What I found interesting reading the article was how his teammates treated him when they found out how new he was to football, there was an element of hands-on from the Saints development coach, but also seemed that he was given training programs to do on his own without supervision or possible talking amongst the coaches. While reading it I was thinking about our situation with Blitz, the development we have seen from him, the support he seems to be getting from the coaches, from his teammates etc; so how much of his development can we attribute to the club environment in which he has found himself, would he have made this same steps over the past 9 months or so (thinking back to his VFL time last yr) if he was at another club?


Attempting to transform athletes with limited or no experience of the game into AFL footballers is more fashionable than ever, with poster boys such as Mike Pyke and Majak Daw lending an air of Uncle Sam's "It could be you!" to the tilling of unconventional recruitment fields. Blake McGrath thinks it's a dream, one he knows has passed him by. Yet he still thinks it would be hard to better.
If Pyke, Daw and others showcase what is possible, McGrath represents the reality — that football is hard enough to excel at when you've put boot to ball all your life, let alone as a late-starter or an absolute greenhorn.
Yet the game's unshakeable hold on him, the fact that he would stick his chin out to be whacked all over again, tells McGrath that even a failed "project player" can be a winner.
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supahoops said:
Would like to think Blitz is a better character than Mumford, and though there are similarities in their stories surely the club won't fall victim again.
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The sanctimony is sickening. It has nothing at all to do with character. And nobody would care a hoot that our rookie listed ruckman left except that he turned out to be a good player.
 
cats_09 said:
There is an interesting article in The Age today about the somewhat current trend in AFL of trying to transform athletes or those from other sporting backgrounds into AFL players, with the focus this time on former Saints rookie Blake McGrath. What I found interesting reading the article was how his teammates treated him when they found out how new he was to football, there was an element of hands-on from the Saints development coach, but also seemed that he was given training programs to do on his own without supervision or possible talking amongst the coaches. While reading it I was thinking about our situation with Blitz, the development we have seen from him, the support he seems to be getting from the coaches, from his teammates etc; so how much of his development can we attribute to the club environment in which he has found himself, would he have made this same steps over the past 9 months or so (thinking back to his VFL time last yr) if he was at another club?





Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-makeorbreak-experiment-20130606-2nt9l.html#ixzz2VUwXY18C
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It is in the interest of all Geelong and other players that Blicavs succeed.
Players' pay packets could double when we stop wasting millions of dollars on the TAC Cup and Draft and spinoff Industries, etc. :D
 
The 747 said:
The sanctimony is sickening. It has nothing at all to do with character. And nobody would care a hoot that our rookie listed ruckman left except that he turned out to be a good player.
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Ha exactly. The club cuts players all the time, but when they leave of their own accord, it's they who lack character...
 
vealesy said:
I wish i knew it was proboys avatar before i stole it. Will change it when i remember.

But i disagree. Managed is a more correct term than rested. And i hope the club uses this from now on. It is more professional and doesn't have the stigma of 'dropping' players.

Blitz hasn't "earnt a rest", his workload on his body is being scientifically managed. The two terms are worlds apart in the professionalism they present to the football world.

Our great club does well to revolutionise the game. This is just another small part of that.
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I handed the Avatar down to my apprentice! :thumbsu::cool:
 
The 747 said:
The sanctimony is sickening. It has nothing at all to do with character. And nobody would care a hoot that our rookie listed ruckman left except that he turned out to be a good player.
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I would have thought walking out on a club who gave you a chance and turned you into an AFL player was the sickening part but maybe that's just me and I'm a little biased.

The only reason he turned out to be a good player, as you put it, was because of the development this club put into him. To walk away without repaying that says plenty about his character IMO.
 
Is the Geelong FC a intrinsically better environment than others?

Is it important for any new kid on the block to have respect for the current tennants?

Individual personalities can shape a work place , making some enjoyable , making others a bully driven hellhole. New individuals into it , current individuals ruling the roost in it , all have the potential to raise the right or wrong emotion. Its also probable that some would be protective of their lot. Helping a team mate is one thing helping an internal competitor is another.

Its not hard to imagine that life could be tough for new chums to the game. It likes a workplace where the old boy worker with no degree has to show the ropes to a no nothing dumb kid with a degree .. knowing from experience that once he has done that , that the "newb" will get a promotion and he will be left behind yet again. Or perhaps some one who knows all about a certain job , sees that know one else learns that job ensuring his security and plenty of overtime. Its tough business and most of the guys had to work very hard , had to be very brave just to elevate themselves above all the other players. Gee I can remember that there was an undercurrent of resentment when GA29 was given a Falcons spot. Plenty thought it was just on his name.

Perhaps in a more giving benevolent workforce , a successful one where the current resident are aware they are only caretakers not owners , it may be easier to bring in player needing more assistance. When they have had success and had a hand it creating a successful club , they may see its part of their role to pass on and continue the workplaces success.

But still any newbie into the club would want to be amiable. If someone from a non-football background had an attitude ( imagine a Craig Foster type ) I doubt he would get far even in the best environment. Personalities can be admired and liked , or just something that rubs people the wrong way. It once someone has been labeled its probably beyond his ability to easily change it.

>>>>

Just on a different question. Currently Blitz is a B Rookie. If he is elevated it would allow Geelong to add another International type . I wonder if SWells has seen any big American basketballers he likes the look of , if he has I wonder if that will play a role in his possible elevation.
 

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vealesy said:
I wish i knew it was proboys avatar before i stole it. Will change it when i remember.

But i disagree. Managed is a more correct term than rested. And i hope the club uses this from now on. It is more professional and doesn't have the stigma of 'dropping' players.

Blitz hasn't "earnt a rest", his workload on his body is being scientifically managed. The two terms are worlds apart in the professionalism they present to the football world.

Our great club does well to revolutionise the game. This is just another small part of that.
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So he is being rested, though 'more correctly' he is being managed.

Seems much of a muchness to me. :rolleyes:
 
Turbocat said:
Is the Geelong FC a intrinsically better environment than others?

Is it important for any new kid on the block to have respect for the current tennants?

Individual personalities can shape a work place , making some enjoyable , making others a bully driven hellhole. New individuals into it , current individuals ruling the roost in it , all have the potential to raise the right or wrong emotion. Its also probable that some would be protective of their lot. Helping a team mate is one thing helping an internal competitor is another.

Its not hard to imagine that life could be tough for new chums to the game. It likes a workplace where the old boy worker with no degree has to show the ropes to a no nothing dumb kid with a degree .. knowing from experience that once he has done that , that the "newb" will get a promotion and he will be left behind yet again. Or perhaps some one who knows all about a certain job , sees that know one else learns that job ensuring his security and plenty of overtime. Its tough business and most of the guys had to work very hard , had to be very brave just to elevate themselves above all the other players. Gee I can remember that there was an undercurrent of resentment when GA29 was given a Falcons spot. Plenty thought it was just on his name.

Perhaps in a more giving benevolent workforce , a successful one where the current resident are aware they are only caretakers not owners , it may be easier to bring in player needing more assistance. When they have had success and had a hand it creating a successful club , they may see its part of their role to pass on and continue the workplaces success.

But still any newbie into the club would want to be amiable. If someone from a non-football background had an attitude ( imagine a Craig Foster type ) I doubt he would get far even in the best environment. Personalities can be admired and liked , or just something that rubs people the wrong way. It once someone has been labeled its probably beyond his ability to easily change it.

>>>>

Just on a different question. Currently Blitz is a B Rookie. If he is elevated it would allow Geelong to add another International type . I wonder if SWells has seen any big American basketballers he likes the look of , if he has I wonder if that will play a role in his possible elevation.
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From what I have seen of Blitz, he is a phenomenal trainer. I don't use that term lightly. The best way to earn respect at the start is on the track. He had been working off the field in sports therapy when he was steeplechasing /1500m running. He is incredibly disciplined and has a continual will to learn.

The senior players will follow the leaders. The coach, captain and other leaders are supportive of Blitz. There might be some animosity between junior players getting games, but I would like to think that the coaches and mentors would nip it in the bud quickly. This is where the professionalism of the club is tested.

Blitz was gifted a spot on the list but he has earned his spot on the team.
 
Aussiemac82 said:
From what I have seen of Blitz, he is a phenomenal trainer. I don't use that term lightly. The best way to earn respect at the start is on the track. He had been working off the field in sports therapy when he was steeplechasing /1500m running. He is incredibly disciplined and has a continual will to learn.

The senior players will follow the leaders. The coach, captain and other leaders are supportive of Blitz. There might be some animosity between junior players getting games, but I would like to think that the coaches and mentors would nip it in the bud quickly. This is where the professionalism of the club is tested.

Blitz was gifted a spot on the list but he has earned his spot on the team.
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Spot in earning respect. Train hard not expecting to be given special treatment etc

The one thing about club seniors is if they are respected then the junior will stay in line. If not you are Demon bound

The terminology I feel is slightly off. Gifted a position...mmm. The AFL created a square peg type spot that normals wold not be able to use. Players know that its not costing any player from a traditional background. Perhaps your right but I think he has done something pre Geelong to earn his gift of geelong chance.
 
Turbocat said:
Spot in earning respect. Train hard not expecting to be given special treatment etc

The one thing about club seniors is if they are respected then the junior will stay in line. If not you are Demon bound

The terminology I feel is slightly off. Gifted a position...mmm. The AFL created a square peg type spot that normals wold not be able to use. Players know that its not costing any player from a traditional background. Perhaps your right but I think he has done something pre Geelong to earn his gift of geelong chance.
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When I think of the B class rookie, I think luck. If Blitz stopped playing footy when he was 14, dedicated his formative years training for the Olympics, miss out, then get a second chance as a professional athlete at the reigning premiers . I would consider that chance a gift.

Plenty of hard work involved still.

(Plus, it was the only word I could think of at the time)
 
Aussiemac82 said:
When I think of the B class rookie, I think luck. If Blitz stopped playing footy when he was 14, dedicated his formative years training for the Olympics, miss out, then get a second chance as a professional athlete at the reigning premiers . I would consider that chance a gift.

Plenty of hard work involved still.

(Plus, it was the only word I could think of at the time)
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Fair enough
 

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supahoops said:
Re Mumford, from what I gather there were no issues with the club or anyone in it.

Simply a matter of taking the money on offer.

Be gutted if Blicavs would do the same.
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I am sure money had a lot to do with it but his uncle told me, when I asked him what Mummy had said why he was leaving Catland - was the main reason was he was seriously pissed off at being ommitted for the finals games.
 
Jon Douglas said:
I am sure money had a lot to do with it but his uncle told me, when I asked him what Mummy had said why he was leaving Catland - was the main reason was he was seriously pissed off at being ommitted for the finals games.
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If thats true then good riddance.

Club first.
 
What I find interesting is how many of these non-traditional pathway players are good kicks. Look at Keiren Jack. The coaching is extraordinairy. I wonder if someone like Kane Tenace could have benefited from that sort of programme or his habits were too ingrained by the time he got to us.
 

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