Roast Mark Robinson

FuManchu · Mar 31, 2016

The Royal Sampler said:
Being within his rights doesn't make it the appropriate course of action. How popular did Adam Goodes' decision to exercise his right to point out a 13-year-old girl in the crowd for ejection from the game make him?

Goodes was 100% spot on for doing that. A 13yo will know that calling someone an ape is nothing but derogatory. So if you're going to call it, you're going to learn a harsh lesson.

David Spears · Mar 31, 2016

Pdid said:
Ok Mr. QC.

Because they didnt sue or take legal action robbo MUST be right.

Like the left field approach but 1 + 1 doesnt equal 3.

I could think of many many reasons that legal action wouldnt be taken. One Example: costs of taking legal action is = to or less than damage taken by brand + financial reward.

Herald Sun Lawyer is Justin Quill. He is the leading sports and entertainment lawyer in Australia. If you google his name, you will see that when the Essendon saga dropped, he was hired by the AFL to be the "neutral" lawyer to look on during the proceedings. There is no way someone as established and reputable as Quill would OK the article if it didn't have watertight sources.

Ketchup · Mar 31, 2016

Hardas said:
You don't agree with what he wrote today?

No I completely agree, I still just find it funny every time that someone the board unanimously hates and constantly described as a waste of space can become such a valid talking all because he defended the journalism ethos.

good4footy · Mar 31, 2016

David Spears said:
Herald Sun Lawyer is Justin Quill. He is the leading sports and entertainment lawyer in Australia. If you google his name, you will see that when the Essendon saga dropped, he was hired by the AFL to be the "neutral" lawyer to look on during the proceedings. There is no way someone as established and reputable as Quill would OK the article if it didn't have watertight sources.

Just because an article is legally okay does not make it factual.

Hardas · Mar 31, 2016

FuManchu said:
Goodes was 100% spot on for doing that. A 13yo will know that calling someone an ape is nothing but derogatory. So if you're going to call it, you're going to learn a harsh lesson.

Yep, have long agreed on this point.

Hardas · Mar 31, 2016

Ketchup said:
No I completely agree, I still just find it funny every time that someone the board unanimously hates and constantly described as a waste of space can become such a valid talking all because he defended the journalism ethos.

I see what you mean, but I'm not sure he fits the 'unanimously hates' category - even he and Caro get several people backing their records from time to time [maybe family members!].

PicaBoo · Mar 31, 2016

CFC2010 said:
Agreed JB

Like you said this might be the wrong thread for it but what scares me the most for our players (and my kids) is the synthetic drugs coming out of China.
I watched a story from 60 minutes a few months back and it is frightening what they are making and selling to Australia and the effects they are having.
If the dealers are cutting the Coke (allegedly) with Clen then what stops them from cutting the drugs with the synthetic drugs? This is the reason I am shaking my head at the stupidity of our players........especially after the two boys got done.

The sad truth for me is I don't think the players are going to change.

Illegal drugs out of China are dangerous is the least of my worries. You don't want to know the quality of legal products they are selling. See milk powder and such. They got an integrity /QA standard similar to the AFL and that is not meant as a compliment.

Piestration · Mar 31, 2016

Baltimore Jack said:
FWIW, I agree with you

The AFL game is and should be the main attraction. These Journo's are just like the Scumps, trying to hijack the limelight. You can say Barrett is making the most of his opportunities considering his dull personality. Good luck to him.

PicaBoo · Mar 31, 2016

David Spears said:
. There is no way someone as established and reputable as Quill would OK the article if it didn't have watertight sources.

OMG.
Get your head out of the sand. This is the same News corporation that spoofed messages from missing persons to create a story.

His role is not to judge whether the source is correct but whether a case can / will be successfully mounted based upon the article.
With the legal resources the Herald Sun has, it can take years before a verdict is reached. At the cost of millions and meanwhile keep Collingwood in the negative spotlight. Worth it?
The HS lawyers know that and laugh at anyone trying to go after them.

Maggie5 · Mar 31, 2016

PicaBoo said:
OMG.
Get your head out of the sand. This is the same News corporation that spoofed messages from missing persons to create a story.

His role is not to judge whether the source is correct but whether a case can / will be successfully mounted based upon the article.
With the legal resources the Herald Sun has, it can take years before a verdict is reached. At the cost of millions and meanwhile keep Collingwood in the negative spotlight. Worth it?
The HS lawyers know that and laugh at anyone trying to go after them.

#tapmywire HS and their legal team? LOL

Baltimore Jack · Mar 31, 2016

David Spears said:
Herald Sun Lawyer is Justin Quill. He is the leading sports and entertainment lawyer in Australia. If you google his name, you will see that when the Essendon saga dropped, he was hired by the AFL to be the "neutral" lawyer to look on during the proceedings. There is no way someone as established and reputable as Quill would OK the article if it didn't have watertight sources.

You mean the same organisation that owned News of The World and hacked the private phones of individuals including an abducted teenager, is that who Quill works for?

FuManchu · Mar 31, 2016

Baltimore Jack said:
You mean the same organisation that owned News of The World and hacked the private phones of individuals including an abducted teenager, is that who Quill works for?

That's like saying you'll never get in an Airbus or Boeing plane again after a plane crash. Things improve based on previous issues.

Do you get on Airbus and Boeing planes still?

Baltimore Jack · Mar 31, 2016

FuManchu said:
That's like saying you'll never get in an Airbus or Boeing plane again after a plane crash. Things improve based on previous issues.

Do you get on Airbus and Boeing planes still?

I do

FuManchu · Mar 31, 2016

Baltimore Jack said:
I do

Which do you think is the bigger risk? Getting on a company's plane that has a track record of crashing, or the heinous, nasty, unfathomable use of a newspaper that dared to single out your footy team??

PicaBoo · Mar 31, 2016

FuManchu said:
Things improve based on previous issues.

Apparently not

The Royal Sampler · Mar 31, 2016

FuManchu said:
Goodes was 100% spot on for doing that. A 13yo will know that calling someone an ape is nothing but derogatory. So if you're going to call it, you're going to learn a harsh lesson.

Regardless, while no-one can argue it was his right, many would argue it was the wrong approach.

FuManchu · Mar 31, 2016

The Royal Sampler said:
Regardless, while no-one can argue it was his right, many would argue it was the wrong approach.

Many might, many wouldn't. So now we have a stalemate.

jmac70 · Mar 31, 2016

Please god don't start the Goodes discussion again.

The Royal Sampler · Mar 31, 2016

FuManchu said:
Many might, many wouldn't. So now we have a stalemate.

No we don't. The point has been made, you just missed it.

While the right was inarguable, the approach was not.

Feel free to waste your time coming up with your own non-Goodes-related example if you wish.

FuManchu · Mar 31, 2016

The Royal Sampler said:
No we don't. The point has been made, you just missed it.

While the right was inarguable, the approach was not.

Feel free to waste your time coming up with your own non-Goodes-related example if you wish.

I don't have to. You think you are right, similarly I think I am right. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone. But if someone presents an argument in a public forum, then it's open to be discussed.

If people are sick of the argument, then they should stop posting. Or if they just want a circle jerk of consensus, then this place will be a much poorer place.

JB1975 · Mar 31, 2016

FuManchu said:
I don't have to. You think you are right, similarly I think I am right. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone. But if someone presents an argument in a public forum, then it's open to be discussed.

If people are sick of the argument, then they should stop posting. Or if they just want a circle jerk of consensus, then this place will be a much poorer place.

Didn't think circle jerks were that bad...

The Royal Sampler · Mar 31, 2016

The Royal Sampler said:
Regardless, while no-one can argue it was his right, many would argue it was the wrong approach.

FuManchu said:
Many might, many wouldn't. So now we have a stalemate.

The Royal Sampler said:
No we don't. The point has been made, you just missed it.

While the right was inarguable, the approach was not.

FuManchu said:
I don't have to. You think you are right, similarly I think I am right.

If you're admitting "many might" argue, by definition you are admitting it is arguable. Hence I have proved my point, and you already agree with me despite trying to be obtuse.

jmac70 · Mar 31, 2016

JB1975 said:
Didn't think circle jerks were that bad...

It depends which school you went to.

JB1975 · Mar 31, 2016

jmac70 said:
It depends which school you went to.

Elite schools probably do it better, yeah?

FuManchu · Mar 31, 2016

JB1975 said:
Didn't think circle jerks were that bad...

Are you speaking from personal experience? I support you in your choices.

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