Matt Rendell...

[Plugger35]

Let it go.

Rendell has apologised sincerely, he has also asked that Demetriou, Misfud, Fahour and The Adelaide football club left alone. He admitted it was his fault and nobody else's. He also admitted he said other things he did not want to talk about, which he now realises how hurtful they were.

I plead for you and others like yourself to let it go now that you have the benefit of hindsight, but I fear you may have your own pride at stake.

What Rendell has said in public is probably not what he feels in private, he showed how upset he was on Footy Classified. Maybe he has been spoken to by people or offered a payout to just shut up about it and apologise, wouldn't be the first time that's happened

Anyway Rendell apologising still doesn't excuse the AFL's behaviour, which as far as I can see is far worse than anything Rendell has done.

It also doesn't mean that clueless morons like yourself have had a victory in this either because you haven't. What you have repeatedly failed to realise is that the AFL has now lost a man that was trying to help indigenous players have successful, long term AFL careers, all because the AFL wanted to make a nice politically correct statement while papering over the cracks of the real problems.

 

[King Elvis]

Then to suggest we offer indigenous kids who are around 16 the chance to receive a scholarship to a leading school away from their homes to help them prepare if they choose to pursue an AFL career was something akin to the stolen generations again but on a lessor scale.

Sounds a bit more reasonable?

You're also ignoring just how much work goes into these young draftees, regardless of race, who live in metro areas; the AIS, the State Teams, the TAC Cup, the U18 Carnival, the huge amounts of training, physical and mental they do.

These kids, based on location, not race, are put through a huge amount of training and preparation to get them ready to be drafted (and they'll be interstate a day after they're drafted) - which kids in remote communities, are not given the opportunity to undertake.

 

[scottwade]

I don't think Rendell is racist but I do believe he deserved to be sacked for his comments. You just can't say stuff like that. It's not the 1970s anymore.

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;

Personally i wouldn't want to play footy with a homo. If any of my team mates were gay i would never be able to look at them the same way.

Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;

The only times i'm friends with females is if i have intentions to fornicate with them or with one of their friends. I just don't see the point of being friends with females for any other reason than sex

Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

I'm glad you can accept people for who they are and all that you're a bigger man than me. However, myself i can change my words but i can't change my feelings.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Check my post history, reread the articles, watch On The Couch, Footy Classifed and listen to theAdelaide Triple M intervew. If that is too much - which I expect it will be - just check my post history it's all there in black and white, chronologically ordered over last 4-5 days.

You haven't detailed one time he contradicted himself. You just keep saying he did.

 

[TAITA]

agreed. In spite of his intentions he lacked respect and sensitivity when trying to make his point.

Then to suggest we take indigenous kids who are under 16 from their homes for conditioning into being able to cope with the AFL machine was something akin to the stolen generations again but on a lessor scale.

good riddance to him he has lost the plot.

He was talking 16 years mate - not 16 months - get a grip.

These are young men and no one is holding a gun to their heads.

 

[Jimthegreat]

agreed. In spite of his intentions he lacked respect and sensitivity when trying to make his point.

Then to suggest we take indigenous kids who are under 16 from their homes for conditioning into being able to cope with the AFL machine was something akin to the stolen generations again but on a lessor scale.

good riddance to him he has lost the plot.

Really don't have a clue you. Stolen generation was virtually at the point of gun. Here no-one is forcing them to leave their homes and go to an academy. They have a choice and a chance to improve their chances in life and AFL footy.
If you can't see the difference and what's good in that suggestion then you seriously have a problem thinking and reasoning. Hence we know not to take your crap seriously anymore.

You obviously check you brain in by the keyboard when you fire up your computer and you're certainly not using them.

 

[TAITA]

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;

Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;

Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

By god that is a quality burn - the mother of all smackdowns.

 

[SirJimi05]

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;



Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;



Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

One of the best K.O's I've seen on this site.

 

[scottwade]

Then to suggest we take indigenous kids who are under 16 from their homes for conditioning into being able to cope with the AFL machine was something akin to the stolen generations again but on a lessor scale.

good riddance to him he has lost the plot.

Rendell was suggesting that indigenous players who performed well at the U16 championships could, with their parents approval, move to schools where they would get an education and assistance to prepare them for a possible life as an AFL player.

Pretty much this actually.

It can also be revealed that a $15 million centre aimed at equipping indigenous youths from remote communities with the skills to make it in the AFL - to be called the Michael Long Academy - is expected to open in Darwin next year.

The academy will include educational programs and stress the importance of participants taking up leadership roles within their communities. "Not everyone who passes through the academy will become an AFL footballer," Long said. "But hopefully they will become good citizens."

"We'll be holding them until they're ready to go," said Frawley. This could mean young players staying at the academy until they are 21, older than most AFL rookies.
Among those backing the project are government bodies, the AFL and Charles Darwin University. A similar program has been established by St John's Catholic College in Darwin,

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...15m-academy-20120316-1vayu.html#ixzz1pkYRLBOC
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[BigBroMike]

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;



Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;



Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

And if I said any of that stuff in a workplace I would get sacked for it. Doesn't change the fact that Rendell deserved to get sacked.

 

[bomberclifford]

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;



Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;



Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

Ouch!

Nice bit of search function wizardry.

 

[TerryWallet]

So i take it that Rendell fans are not even believing Rendell himself anymore?

He must be in on the fix as well i suppose.

Rendell has admitted full responsibility for the situation.

For the statements that have been reported, and importantly, as he said himself today, for the other statements that haven't been publicly reported.

 

[weevil]

My agenda is very simple and it's in the post history. Your question is insulting and if you read my post history or anything I have written you would realise this.

In fact, I have responded to as many people as possible even though I have been barraged left, right and centre. Obviously now the opinion swayed, I also see less posting is to be expected on a forum, nobody wants to apologise that they've got it wrong, still clinging to that theory that is all big cover up.

I have show sympathy for Rendell more than you realise. I am glad he finally made a sincere apology and now genuinely wants to move along, why can't you?

What absolute nonsense, my question is in no way insulting. You just know you can't answer it.

Conspiracy theory? What the hell are you talking about? Check -my- post history buddy before you try to peddle this juvenile rubbish. You accuse others of disrespecting you and in response to a simple question you spin massive simplistic straw-man generalisations.

It's a really simple question:

Do you understand that warning that bad things are going to happen is not the same as saying you want bad things to happen?

What is the problem, why can't you answer this? Afraid of anything?

 

[Lach72]

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;



Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;



Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

You see that's just painful to some one hoisted so comprehensively on their own petard like that.

 

[Malifice]

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;

Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;

Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

This post wins this thread.

 

[Fossie 32]

But presumably talking about gays in the following manner is acceptable;



Or these are I take it modern day attitudes about women;



Or just general acceptance of people who are 'different' to you;

Oh dear

 

[weevil]

I think that pretty much amounts to a standing ovation for that post.

 

[Plugger35]

So i take it that Rendell fans are not even believing Rendell himself anymore?

He must be in on the fix as well i suppose.

Rendell has admitted full responsibility for the situation.

For the statements that have been reported, and importantly, as he said himself today, for the other statements that haven't been publicly reported.

Refer to my previous post Terry, you're about as clueless as Roby when it comes to the real issue in all this which is trying to reduce the attrition rate of indigenous players drafted into the AFL, something Rendell was trying to help with until the AFL and Adelaide railroaded him out of a job for the sake of political correctness.

Who apologises to who is irrelevent, most sensible people can see who is at fault in this situation and it isn't Matt Rendell.

 

[Docker Clint]

Methinks there are a few AFL-bots in this thread. Because no-one could be that dumb.

There are a fair few people who don't know what a hypothetical situation is.

Rendell: "Caro, what would you do if there was an asteroid crashing to earth in the next hour?"
Caro: "Don't be ridiculous, there's no asteroid, apologise for scaring people!"

etc..

Then there are people who will take someone's words and twist them to get a result they want.

 

[Fossie 32]

If he had only [allegedly] attacked someone with a machete he could have full support from his club.

How does that work again?

 

[TerryWallet]

Plugger old pal, i have no doubt you'll be the last man standing.

I have faith in ya Brotha.

 

[Mordecai]

Re: Matt Rendall...

Wow! Just wow!

Can't not believe the guy. Either an honest man with a heap of integrity, or the world's best liar.

I'll go with the former.

Or someone who believes they're right when they're wrong. Honestly I don't care about the posturing of any of these people. What matters is whether harm was done intentionally or unintentionally.

 

[yebiga]

agreed. In spite of his intentions he lacked respect and sensitivity when trying to make his point.

Then to suggest we take indigenous kids who are under 16 from their homes for conditioning into being able to cope with the AFL machine was something akin to the stolen generations again but on a lessor scale.

good riddance to him he has lost the plot.

I wonder if someone from the 1970s could actually say something that stupid and keep a straight face. Yes we should be more understanding and sensible 40 years later.

Did the government sanction torture back in 1970s? rendition?, indefinite detention for refugees?

For all our compassion, our self flagellating "sorry" the indigenous community continues to live in third world squalar; while white folk condemn each other for the incorrect usage of words, dissecting whether they hold unconscious or embedded cultural racism.

No it is not the 1970s, more women are at work, gays can live without fear. But we also have growing numbers of homelessness, and family break down. We don't smoke or drink as much but we take more prescription drugs and illicit drugs, and suffer from infinitely more mental health issues.

In 1970s the media had not reduced its public to mental pygmies. For all ourr faults, and they were many, we were a more honest culture. Today, we believe form is more important that content. We believe as long as the words are right reality will look after it self.

This disconnect may well be the key cause of our increased mental health issues - but that is something for the next generation to condemn us with.

 

[R00StaR]

Refer to my previous post Terry, you're about as clueless as Roby when it comes to the real issue in all this which is trying to reduce the attrition rate of indigenous players drafted into the AFL, something Rendell was trying to help with until the AFL and Adelaide railroaded him out of a job for the sake of political correctness.

Who apologises to who is irrelevent, most sensible people can see who is at fault in this situation and it isn't Matt Rendell.

Its appears theres no need to, indigenous players like any other player can take care of their own attrition because we're all the same. Any program put in place should be for all people - equally.

 

[rayven]

for the sake of political correctness.

the term politically incorrect connotes language, ideas, and behavior unconstrained by a perceived orthodoxy or by concerns about offending or expressing bias regarding various groups of people.

Doesn't explain this.

Months ago in confedence an afl recruiter admitted what isses were developing, somehow last week it came news, no one can say why or by who except today we learnt how close to suicide rendell actualy was with his interview on adelaide radio.