Melbourne Team of the 21st Century

[curnow inferno]

CHANGES AT END OF 2021:
IN: S.GOODWIN, C.PETRACCA, S.MAY, C.SALEM
OUTS: N.DANIHER, J.GARLETT, C.GARLAND, J.RIVERS
CAPTAIN CHANGE: NEITZ TO GAWN
COACH CHANGE: DANIHER TO GOODWIN

FB	T.MCDONALD*	S.MAY*	N.BROWN
HB	A.DAVEY	J.FRAWLEY*	C.SALEM*
C	C.BRUCE	C.OLIVER*	J.VINEY*
HF	C.PETRACCA*	J.HOGAN	A.YZE
FF	R.ROBERTSON	D.NEITZ (vc)	B.GREEN
RR	M.GAWN* (c)	J.MCDONALD	N.JONES
INT	J.WHITE	B.MOLONEY	S.WOEWODIN - B.VINCE
COACH:	SIMON GOODWIN*

Lever needs 1 more good year to get ahead of garland for mine..

 

[Dory_77]

CHANGES AT END OF 2021:
IN: S.GOODWIN, C.PETRACCA, S.MAY, C.SALEM
OUTS: N.DANIHER, J.GARLETT, C.GARLAND, J.RIVERS
CAPTAIN CHANGE: NEITZ TO GAWN

[TD valign="top"]FB[/TD][TD valign="top"]T.MCDONALD*[/TD][TD valign="top"]S.MAY*[/TD][TD valign="top"]N.BROWN[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]HB[/TD][TD valign="top"]A.DAVEY[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.FRAWLEY[/TD][TD valign="top"]C.SALEM*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]C[/TD][TD valign="top"]C.BRUCE[/TD][TD valign="top"]C.OLIVER*[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.VINEY*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]HF[/TD][TD valign="top"]A.YZE[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.HOGAN[/TD][TD valign="top"]C.PETRACCA*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]FF[/TD][TD valign="top"]R.ROBERTSON[/TD][TD valign="top"]D.NEITZ (vc)[/TD][TD valign="top"]B.GREEN[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]RR[/TD][TD valign="top"]M.GAWN* (c)[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.MCDONALD[/TD][TD valign="top"]N.JONES[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]INT[/TD][TD valign="top"]J.WHITE[/TD][TD valign="top"]B.MOLONEY[/TD][TD valign="top"]S.WOEWODIN ---- B.VINCE[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]COACH:[/TD][TD valign="top"]SIMON GOODWIN*[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

Lever needs 1 more good year to get ahead of brown for mine..

Personally I'd put Lever in McDonald's spot in the backline. TMc was an ok stopper for a couple of years (granted, not helped being in a rubbish side) but a turnover merchant with the ball. Lever a better interceptor, user and leader down back.
Could make a case for Hibberd swapping with Davey on HBF too, although maybe that's just my recency bias, and us being good now, playing up.
Decent effort though.

 

[Blackas87]

Would have Jared Rivers ahead of Tom McDonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

31

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

but would have Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

in that spot.

 

[melbournemartin]

A great opening lineup!

I would put Matthew Whelan in for Garland (and move Rivers to CHB) as you'd really want a shut down small defender. Either Whelan or Jetta, take your pick. The Neitz/Hogan combination with either White or Gawn resting forward would be ridiculous.

Also need some outside run and class so Travis Johnstone sneaks onto the wing and Moloney gets dropped.

FB: T.MCDONALD* - J.FRAWLEY - M.WHELAN
HB: A.DAVEY - J.RIVERS - N.BROWN
C: C.BRUCE - J.MCDONALD - T. JOHNSTONE
HF: B.GREEN - J.HOGAN - A.YZE
FF: R.ROBERTSON - D.NEITZ (c) - J.GARLETT
RR: M.GAWN* - C.OLIVER* - N.JONES* (vc)
INT J.WHITE - J.VINEY - S.WOEWODIN - B.VINCE
COACH: NEALE DANIHER

Revisiting this after the grand final win...

FB: C. SALEM - J.FRAWLEY - M.WHELAN
HB: A.DAVEY - J.RIVERS - J. LEVER
C: C.BRUCE - J. VINEY - T. JOHNSTONE
HF: C. PETRACCA - J.HOGAN - A.YZE
FF: R.ROBERTSON - D.NEITZ - B. GREEN
RR: M.GAWN* (c) - C.OLIVER* - N.JONES (vc)
INT J.WHITE - J. MCDONALD - S.WOEWODIN - B.VINCE
COACH: NEALE DANIHER

Tom McDonald out at back pocket for Christian Salem
Nathan Brown out at half back for Jake Lever
Brad Green moves to forward pocket instead of Jeff Garlett, with Petracca sliding in at half forward
Viney now starting with James McDonald on the bench.

Players on the edge:

- Frawley & Rivers almost out for May
- Vince almost out for Brayshaw
- A similar year from Fritsch and he goes in for Hogan
- It's very hard to not put in Goodwin... but * that, the Rev stays!

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Gotta have Goody as coach, even with 2019 his win-loss record is pretty good (and we’ll never know how much of that is his fault - might have been able to have another 2018-like year with a fit list)

 

[curnow inferno]

CHANGES AT END OF 2023:
INS: J.LEVER, A.BRAYSHAW
OUTS: C.GARLAND, C.SALEM

FB	T.MCDONALD*	S.MAY*	J.LEVER*
HB	A.DAVEY	J.FRAWLEY*	A.BRAYSHAW*
C	C.BRUCE	C.OLIVER*	J.VINEY*
HF	C.PETRACCA*	J.HOGAN	A.YZE
FF	R.ROBERTSON	D.NEITZ (vc)	B.GREEN
RR	M.GAWN* (c)	J.MCDONALD	N.JONES
INT	J.WHITE	B.MOLONEY	S.WOEWODIN - B.VINCE
COACH:	SIMON GOODWIN*

Thank you to the dees board for your input so far.

I wouldn't be surprised if this time next year kozi has made his way in to this team as well.

Thoughts?

 

[Crusty Demon]

CHANGES AT END OF 2023:
INS: J.LEVER, A.BRAYSHAW
OUTS: C.GARLAND, C.SALEM

FB	T.MCDONALD*	S.MAY*	J.LEVER*
HB	A.DAVEY	J.FRAWLEY*	A.BRAYSHAW*
C	C.BRUCE	C.OLIVER*	J.VINEY*
HF	C.PETRACCA*	J.HOGAN	A.YZE
FF	R.ROBERTSON	D.NEITZ (vc)	B.GREEN
RR	M.GAWN* (c)	J.MCDONALD	N.JONES
INT	J.WHITE	B.MOLONEY	S.WOEWODIN - B.VINCE
COACH:	SIMON GOODWIN*

Thank you to the dees board for your input so far.

I wouldn't be surprised if this time next year kozi has made his way in to this team as well.

Thoughts?

Surely we got someone better than Moloney?

 

[pjfairbairn]

CHANGES AT END OF 2023:
INS: J.LEVER, A.BRAYSHAW
OUTS: C.GARLAND, C.SALEM

FB	T.MCDONALD*	S.MAY*	J.LEVER*
HB	A.DAVEY	J.FRAWLEY*	A.BRAYSHAW*
C	C.BRUCE	C.OLIVER*	J.VINEY*
HF	C.PETRACCA*	J.HOGAN	A.YZE
FF	R.ROBERTSON	D.NEITZ (vc)	B.GREEN
RR	M.GAWN* (c)	J.MCDONALD	N.JONES
INT	J.WHITE	B.MOLONEY	S.WOEWODIN - B.VINCE
COACH:	SIMON GOODWIN*

Thank you to the dees board for your input so far.

I wouldn't be surprised if this time next year kozi has made his way in to this team as well.

Thoughts?

Looks good. At what point does Bailey Fritsch get a look in?

 

[curnow inferno]

Looks good. At what point does Bailey Fritsch get a look in?

I think at most other teams he would have but the dees small to medium forwards are one of the best.

It may become one option to put petracca in midfield, mcdonald to bench and fritsch forward

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I think at most other teams he would have but the dees small to medium forwards are one of the best.

It may become one option to put petracca in midfield, mcdonald to bench and fritsch forward

Easy move, Trac to onballer for McDonald, Fritsch to HFF. I wouldnt even have McDonald in the team. Good trier but I think White, Moloney, Woey and Vince are just better players.

Feel Davey and Yze need to swap places.

How is Hibberd not in this side? Must be in the starting 18

Hogan lucky to be in the team also. Once Pickett is eligible he should be out completely. Robbo can play CHF.

 

[curnow inferno]

Easy move, Trac to onballer for McDonald, Fritsch to HFF. I wouldnt even have McDonald in the team. Good trier but I think White, Moloney, Woey and Vince are just better players.

Feel Davey and Yze need to swap places.

How is Hibberd not in this side? Must be in the starting 18

Hogan lucky to be in the team also. Once Pickett is eligible he should be out completely. Robbo can play CHF.

Surprised at your thoughts re: mcdonald. I know he played in a terrible era for dees but was still able to win all Australian honours unlike moloney and vince to go with 2 bnfs.

Who would you take out for hibberd?

Hogan for me is the weakest link in this side. Dees have really struggled with key forwards since neitz. And im not sure robbo at 187 is the answer.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Surprised at your thoughts re: mcdonald. I know he played in a terrible era for dees but was still able to win all Australian honours unlike moloney and vince to go with 2 bnfs.

Who would you take out for hibberd?

Hogan for me is the weakest link in this side. Dees have really struggled with key forwards since neitz. And im not sure robbo at 187 is the answer.

Junior was a good tagger, I think you can make a case for him over Moloney, Woey and Vince, its just preference.

Hibberd has to be ahead of Gus and Tom McDonald in the back 6.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Neville Jetta

39

Neville Jetta

Age

34

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

141.3

2star

D

7.0

1star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.3

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

1.5

2star

MG

64.0

1star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.8

4star

probably stiff not to make this side also.

 

[Bluelegs]

Surprised at your thoughts re: mcdonald. I know he played in a terrible era for dees but was still able to win all Australian honours unlike moloney and vince to go with 2 bnfs.

Who would you take out for hibberd?

Hogan for me is the weakest link in this side. Dees have really struggled with key forwards since neitz. And im not sure robbo at 187 is the answer.

Did Tmac ever get AA recognition as a defender? Surely not.

Edit: Oh wait you were talking about Junior McDonald. Either way Tmac doesn't get a look in the side. Backline is way too tall. Replace him with Neville Jetta or Hibberd

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Did Tmac ever get AA recognition as a defender? Surely not.

Hes talking about Junior.

 

[Bluelegs]

Hes talking about Junior.

Yeah I realised edited my post.

 

[Topkent]

I think if you forget about perfect structure this is my main Melbourne team of the 21st century.

Hibberd. - May - Jetta
Brown - Rivers - Bizzell
Bruce - Jones - Vince
Yze. - Robbo. - Green
Davey. - Neitz. - Fritsch
Gawn. - Trac. - Oliver
White.- Viney - Frawley - Woewodin

Stiff
Lever, Walsh, Moloney, Walsh Whelan.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I think if you forget about perfect structure this is my main Melbourne team of the 21st century.

Hibberd. - May - Jetta
Brown - Rivers - Bizzell
Bruce - Jones - Vince
Yze. - Robbo. - Trac
Davey. - Neitz. - Fritsch
Gawn. - Trac. - Oliver
White.- Green - Frawley - Woewodin

Stiff
Lever, Viney, Walsh, Moloney, Walsh Whelan.

Trac in there twice

 

[Topkent]

Trac in there twice

Hmmmm we really have a lack of forwards. Maybe green off the bench then. Koz is probably already in tbh

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Id got with

B: Jetta May Lever
HB: Yze Frawley Hibberd
C: Vince Jones Bruce
HF: Davey Robertson Green
F: Pickett Neitz Fritsch
R: Gawn Petracca Oliver
INT: White Viney Bizzell Woewodin Snr
SUB: Schache or Moloney
EMG: Tom McDonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

31

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

James McDonald Jared Rivers Nathan Brown

22

Nathan Brown

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.4

2star

K

3.2

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.8

5star

 

[Topkent]

Tmacs a little stiff in that he's probably 7th or 8th in the backline and the forward line but not good enough for either.

Id got with

B: Jetta May Lever
HB: Yze Frawley Hibberd
C: Vince Jones Bruce
HF: Davey Robertson Green
F: Pickett Neitz Fritsch
R: Gawn Petracca Oliver
INT: White Viney Bizzell Woewodin Snr
SUB: Schache or Moloney
EMG: Tom McDonald James McDonald Jared Rivers Nathan Brown

Think we have exactly the same team except Rivers and Lever just with Yze back instead of forward.

That one's tough. Levers best is better but he's really only had one standout season. Rivers was very good for a long time

Bizzell and Chip sorta the same at a smaller scale. Chips best was as good as May but didn't last long, Bizzell was damn reliable but maybe I'm too nostalgic on him

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Id got with

Actually, * it, if Woey can make the best team when he was traded in 2002, Framer can also after his epic 2000 season where he kicked 76 goals


B: Jetta May Lever
HB: Yze Frawley Hibberd
C: Vince Jones Bruce
HF: Davey Robertson Green
F: Farmer Neitz Fritsch
R: Gawn Petracca Oliver
INT: White Viney Bizzell Pickett
SUB: Schache or Woewodin Snr
EMG: Tom McDonald James McDonald Jared Rivers Moloney

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Bizzell and Chip sorta the same at a smaller scale. Chips best was as good as May but didn't last long, Bizzell was damn reliable but maybe I'm too nostalgic on him

Bizzell is so underrated, the guy could play well out of his weight division.

 

[Topkent]

Bizzell is so underrated, the guy could play well out of his weight division.

Yeah I loved him. Same as Pig. You just put those blokes in down back and don't worry about them

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Yeah I loved him. Same as Pig. You just put those blokes in down back and don't worry about them

Id start Bizzell on the bench, can go forward and play CHF if Robbo goes down.

Joel Smith like a flexibility