Merged Draft Threads - Part 3

[Enki]

Re: So if Hurley is gone....

We will probably take a midfielder, so that would most likely mean Ziebell, Hartlett(although apparently we haven't shown much interest in Hamish) or maybe (but I'd think unlikely) Sidebottom. I doubt we would take the risk of taking Swift at pick 5.

I guess Trengove would be an outside chance also, but the club is probably just going to see if he slides and if not grab another tall.

 

[TOA.]

Anyone else find it a bit odd for Ziebell and Hurley to get the exact same results in both the sprint and the agility test?

99% chance they are wrong. I'm very surprised that Ziebell, Hurley and Sidebottom tested that quick. Those times are alot quicker than expected for all three. I dont believe in coincidences.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Re: So if Hurley is gone....

What say you?

Who said what?

 

[Burzum]

99% chance they are wrong. I'm very surprised that Ziebell, Hurley and Sidebottom tested that quick. Those times are alot quicker than expected for all three. I dont believe in coincidences.

I just Hurley's results don't turn out to be Sprint: 3.2, Agility: 9.5

 

[TOA.]

I just Hurley's results don't turn out to be Sprint: 3.2, Agility: 9.5

I wouldnt laugh

 

[Dick johnson]

Now that he has tested ok someone will go after him.
And before anyone asks i don't know where he will end up and i have seen him play once on dvd so i am not in a position to say we absolutley should pick him.
If we do then i will trust that any risks are gone as the numbers he put up in the under 16 champs where impressive so the kid can obviously play.

i know you said you havnt seen much of him, but could you describe what you know of him? i havnt been able to find much myself, and all i knows is that he is a tall mid and bombers1 wants to have his babies...

 

[skdownunder]

if we got ziebell instead i'd laugh

 

[Colin D'Cops]

if we got ziebell instead i'd laugh

Ziebell instead of who exactly?

 

[Colin D'Cops]

For those wondering why Hartlett isn't on top of any of the draft camp leaderboards, including myself a while ago, here's your reason ; (Quoted from Freo Board)

Hartlett had a shoulder reco at the end of the SANFL season..

 

[hateitorlovett13]

Daniel Hannebery

Can we please pick him up? Pick 23 sounds very nice.

For those who don't know, he won the Draft Camp 3km time trial, and had a 9 minute run earlier on in the year with Oakleigh. His agility tests and beep were also up there (top 10), and his football skills cannot be questioned with his selection in the Vic Metro team as a bottom age player.

Additionally, nobody rates him. I have not seen anyone put him in their possible top 2 rounds, and this is a great chance to get a definate top 10, maybe even top 5, in next years draft very very cheap. The kid can definately play, and could, very realistically, be Essendon's next champion.

 

[jetta2davey]

Re: Daniel Hannebery

put it in the draft thread, how hard is it??

 

[AndyLesPaul]

Re: Daniel Hannebery

put it in the draft thread, how hard is it??

very.

 

[AndyLesPaul]

Steele Sidebottom TAC Cup GF

1st half: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gaOpbQjzgM
2nd half: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1bvZj6UuE

Is he just a forward?
I thought we were looking on a backman?

 

[ant555]

Is he just a forward?
I thought we were looking on a backman?

He is a midfielder.

 

[loopy_cam]

Is he just a forward?
I thought we were looking on a backman?

He's a midfielder. That's why ten goals is so damn good.

 

[ant555]

Re: Daniel Hannebery

Can we please pick him up? Pick 23 sounds very nice.

For those who don't know, he won the Draft Camp 3km time trial, and had a 9 minute run earlier on in the year with Oakleigh. His agility tests and beep were also up there (top 10), and his football skills cannot be questioned with his selection in the Vic Metro team as a bottom age player.

Additionally, nobody rates him. I have not seen anyone put him in their possible top 2 rounds, and this is a great chance to get a definate top 10, maybe even top 5, in next years draft very very cheap. The kid can definately play, and could, very realistically, be Essendon's next champion.

The reason not a lot rate him higher than mid second round.
Disposal by foot needs a bit of work.

 

[Windas_Magic]

Re: Daniel Hannebery

The reason not a lot rate him higher than mid second round.
Disposal by foot needs a bit of work.

If his foot skills are average then you wouldn't think that Knighter and co. will be looking at him.

 

[ant555]

i know you said you havnt seen much of him, but could you describe what you know of him? i havnt been able to find much myself, and all i knows is that he is a tall mid and bombers1 wants to have his babies...

What i know about him is in my player profiles which are pinned on this board

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Is he just a forward?
I thought we were looking on a backman?

He has played more at HBF/midfield so it was surprising to see him shine up forward kicking 10 goals in the TAC Cup Grand Final definitely. Is a utility, whatever we're struggling in we'll just chuck him there for his first couple of seasons. HBF/HFF/C.

 

[Merv]

Is there any definitive proof that Ziebell was injured late in the season?

The 2 games i've seen him play he has lacked intensity and been in cruise mode and been quite average

 

[AndyLesPaul]

He's a midfielder. That's why ten goals is so damn good.

Ooh i see.
According to Herald Sun port want vickery, so we could get him

 

[Merv]

Duo seeks end to uncertainty

Emma Quayle | October 4, 2008

JACKSON Trengove is a key defender of the future, with speed, spring and a fondness for making big, thumping spoils. Last year, he played on Matthew Kreuzer during the TAC Cup finals, and made him work very hard. A few weeks earlier, he took on Ben McEvoy, and frustrated the normally unflappable player who would later become the No. 9 draft pick.
Tom Swift is a smart, smooth midfielder, who can dance through the centre square, feed the ball out or run it away himself. He's quick, too, and at some stage in his career will wind up in an AFL team's leadership group.
Early this year, both Trengove and Swift were seen as two of the brightest prospects in the 2008 draft. Both should still be chosen high; Trengove is still a likely top-10 pick, and the rumour mill has Swift in Geelong's sights.
But Trengove hasn't played football for five months and Swift has played only a handful of matches in the past two seasons. They are the two big mysteries of this year's draft.

Swift's first problem arose in April last year: the day before his Australian Institute of Sport-AFL Academy group left for its tour of South Africa, the group played a game against Perth at Subiaco Oval.
Early in the game, he twisted the wrong way, fell and found out not long afterwards that he had ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee.
At the time — even though he was too young for the draft and had another year up his sleeve — he felt certain his chance was gone.
"I thought the clubs wouldn't look too positively on it, that it was over for me, but then I started to be more positive," he said.
Swift took it easy through the pre-season, came back in round four and played four games for the Claremont Colts before joining the under-18 West Australian state team.
He felt like he was getting better but in the final trial game before the national championships he landed awkwardly. This time, he injured the ligament running down the side of his right knee.
"At the time, I thought I'd done my knee again," Swift said. "I think once you've done one, you have that fear. But the left knee actually took a bit of impact on the landing, and it stayed strong when my right knee buckled. So it was disappointing, especially so close to the carnival, but I still felt like it was good signs for my left knee."

Trengove was injured while training with the Vic Metro team, the day before it flew to Tasmania to play its second game of the carnival. He was running with the ball and wasn't expecting the smother that crashed across his right knee.
As he hobbled off the track, he told himself he would be fine but the following morning, he was in pain, lots of it, and found out he had torn his hamstring from the top of his fibula bone. He watched Metro win the carnival while taking stats in the coach's box. He's had to learn some patience as he has worked through his rehab program, but he's not let himself worry about what the injury might mean come draft day.
"It was a bit hard because I'm the sort of person who just likes to jump in and do everything at once, but it's been OK. The clubs don't seem too worried about it, so that's a good sign," Trengove said.
"I just tried not to think of the draft and the camp … I thought whatever happened would happen and a part of me wanted to think about it and wonder about it, but I knew I couldn't change it. I wasn't able to play, so there was nothing I could do. I just had to do what I could do, and wait to get better."

Swift feels similarly. Had he re-injured himself in his first or second game back, he suspects he would be feeling a lot of uncertainty now. But he will be ready to go when he joins his new team for pre-season training, and the fact he had begun to find some form has made him believe he will belong, wherever he ends up.
"The best thing was that I was improving with every game. That was the most positive thing. And everyone always said it would happen that way, but you don't really agree with it until it actually happens," said Swift, who used his right knee injury to work on his left-foot kick and worked to build up his core strength.
"I was feeling really confident going into that last game, and I've tried to hold on to that.
"It was unfortunate and disappointing, and the last two years haven't been great. But I was able to prove to myself that I could get back and play some good footy even after the adversity I had the year before and that's been good for me.
"I probably still have a lot to prove, and it messed with my head a bit, but I feel like I've been able to put it all in the past now.
"If I'm lucky enough to be drafted by a club, I feel like I can go there and be just like any other player on the list. That's what I'm looking forward to."

Victorian Jackson Trengove.
Photo: Glen Mccurtayne

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/duo-seeks-end-to-uncertainty/2008/10/03/1223013793038.html

 

[Burzum]

[youtube]ncleDbWqu2k[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncleDbWqu2k

 

[Charliebrow16]

If we get Sydney's pick 12 (trade Lovett and pick 23). I'd have no dramas in pulling the trigger on Swift at pick5 then. Get Lisle or Tengrove at 12.

Pick twelve could be a possibility.
Lovett and Pick 23, as people have already mentioned, may be enough to secure the deal.

The next part of you opinion I have a big problem with. We should take Hurley or Ziebell with our pick five. That would give us arguably the best defender of the last two championships or a promising midfield talent.

Swift could drop to twelve and that is when we should start having a real look at getting him to the club. Why take the risk drafting him when there are more talented and safer prospects when our turn to draft comes?

Ideal situation:
Pick Five: Hurley
Pick 12 (if it eventuates): Swift

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Based on that video; Ziebell looks like a massive kick and Sidebottom looks incredibly good up forward for a midfielder (seems to read the play very well).