Miguel Sanchez
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Warnock to Melbourne for pick 19.
Griffin to Fremantle for pick 21.
Fair?
Warnock to Melbourne for pick 19.
Griffin to Fremantle for pick 21.
Fair?
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Re: Warnock Similar to Wood Trade
No, we have Brent Connolly.
Rather get a pick and take a mid
No, we have Brent Connolly.
Rather get a pick and take a mid
Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
He'd be behind Kepler and Gilmore... so what would be the point?
Griffin is a total spud mate.
He'd be behind Kepler and Gilmore... so what would be the point?
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Re: Warnock homeward bound
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Re: Warnock homeward bound
Just like Fitzroy before them, 'Quit' has thrown up their hand.
Miguel Sanchez
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Got demoted to 4th in line which is the reason for his go home stories, because I'd say there is a strong chance he'll be delisted anyway next year.
And Kepler has actually been brilliant in that role if you'd been watching.
He is.
Got demoted to 4th in line which is the reason for his go home stories, because I'd say there is a strong chance he'll be delisted anyway next year.
And Kepler has actually been brilliant in that role if you'd been watching.
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Re: Warnock Similar to Wood Trade
Warnock and Wood to me are very Simmlar both Super Tall Young Rucks but are Still on the Skinny Side Espically Warnock.
Both Good Tap Ruckman and Both have good Skills for Bigman
Warnock and Wood to me are very Simmlar both Super Tall Young Rucks but are Still on the Skinny Side Espically Warnock.
Both Good Tap Ruckman and Both have good Skills for Bigman
Re: Warnock Similar to Wood Trade
Pretty harsh on Griff. Warnock average a few more possessions per games but is spanked in hit outs. Griff is also more dangerous around goal.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=2&pid1=1567&tid2=9&pid2=1648
Pretty harsh on Griff. Warnock average a few more possessions per games but is spanked in hit outs. Griff is also more dangerous around goal.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=2&pid1=1567&tid2=9&pid2=1648
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
The difference is Freo pretty much has to take the best that's offered otherwise they'll get nothing (Melbourne, PSD). Brisbane didn't have to take anything, so the offer had to be good enough for the Lions to actually be satisfied with the trade. That's a world of difference.
The difference is Freo pretty much has to take the best that's offered otherwise they'll get nothing (Melbourne, PSD). Brisbane didn't have to take anything, so the offer had to be good enough for the Lions to actually be satisfied with the trade. That's a world of difference.
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Re: Warnock homeward bound
As I said in another post ^^
Warnock sounds like a big SOOK to me.
I'm sick and tired of these cry babies that say "I want to go home to mummy"
Sooks like Warnock know fully well that when they go on the draft, that they might end up anywhere in the country.
Freo has wasted a lot of time and money on this sook. I feel sorry for them.
It happens to all clubs though, WA and SA players get drafted to VIC clubs as well, and some of them sook and want to go home to their mummies as well.
STAY WHERE YOU ARE DRAFTED YOU SOOKS!
As I said in another post ^^
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Carlton gave up the latter for Shaun Hampson, and yet picked up another ruckman with their first pick in the 2007 draft and are now chasing Warnock. Obviously Hampson isn't panning out as you guys had anticipated?
What's worth more, pick #14 in the 2007 draft, or pick #17 in the 2006 "SuperDraft"?
Carlton gave up the latter for Shaun Hampson, and yet picked up another ruckman with their first pick in the 2007 draft and are now chasing Warnock. Obviously Hampson isn't panning out as you guys had anticipated?
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
There's enough interest in Warnock that providing he doesn't specify one club as his preference, he won't go in the PSD for nothing. Melbourne will probably provide the best offer to Fremantle, but VISY will put up the best offer to Warnock. If Warnock's true to his word and "works with his manager to get the best possible deal for Fremantle", then he'll be Melbourne-bound IMHO.
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Actually, we're very happy with Hampson, and he's travelling as most expected him to.
He's just finished his second season. He was never going to set the world on fire with his performances to this stage of his career.
Rucks take a long, long time to develop. Rucks that have been playing football for about 4 years (2 years before being drafted), will take even longer still.
Recruiting Warnock won't have a profound impact on Hampson who still has a lot of learning to do.
Hampson is still probably 3 years away from being a consistent quality ruckman in the AFL. Having 3 young rucks in the side is a positive move.
If we recruit Warnock it will place far more pressure on Cloke than it will on Hampson.
Actually, we're very happy with Hampson, and he's travelling as most expected him to.
He's just finished his second season. He was never going to set the world on fire with his performances to this stage of his career.
Rucks take a long, long time to develop. Rucks that have been playing football for about 4 years (2 years before being drafted), will take even longer still.
Recruiting Warnock won't have a profound impact on Hampson who still has a lot of learning to do.
Hampson is still probably 3 years away from being a consistent quality ruckman in the AFL. Having 3 young rucks in the side is a positive move.
If we recruit Warnock it will place far more pressure on Cloke than it will on Hampson.
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
False logic.
Did the Hawks pick up Baily and Renouf because Taylor and Campbell aren't "Panning out" as expected?
It would be great to have three guys, all quality, fighting for two positions........they will push each other to get better.
Then, in two years time......IF there is no room for Hampson........how many of those GC17 first round picks do you think a 200cm ruck with 4 years development, fastest on our list over 20m, and highest vertical leap..........(just has to learn how to play footy).....who is ex-GC.........might be worth?
I'm thinking a top 10 and a maybe top 20.
False logic.
Did the Hawks pick up Baily and Renouf because Taylor and Campbell aren't "Panning out" as expected?
It would be great to have three guys, all quality, fighting for two positions........they will push each other to get better.
Then, in two years time......IF there is no room for Hampson........how many of those GC17 first round picks do you think a 200cm ruck with 4 years development, fastest on our list over 20m, and highest vertical leap..........(just has to learn how to play footy
).....who is ex-GC.........might be worth?I'm thinking a top 10 and a maybe top 20.
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
One of the reasons we picked Hampson is Hughes saw him beat the more experienced Wood in a match in Queensland.
Hampson must have made an impression, because there alot of people at Hampson's next game and Collingwood would have picked Hampson at ten if Reid was gone.
You might be able to find the video of said interview on your official website.
Renouf and Tippet were picked after Hampson, so we weren't the only club to spend a second round pick on a young Queensland ruckman.
Using pick 14 was a poor trade when Wood can't get a game ahead of Bryan after four years.
I would rather have Grimes.
That Kreuzer is a dud.
One of the reasons we picked Hampson is Hughes saw him beat the more experienced Wood in a match in Queensland.
Hampson must have made an impression, because there alot of people at Hampson's next game and Collingwood would have picked Hampson at ten if Reid was gone.
You might be able to find the video of said interview on your official website.
Renouf and Tippet were picked after Hampson, so we weren't the only club to spend a second round pick on a young Queensland ruckman.
Using pick 14 was a poor trade when Wood can't get a game ahead of Bryan after four years.
I would rather have Grimes.
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Which he was, seeing as we picked him up at pick 8......
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Pfft, So Hampson beat Wood in the u-18's, Well it's 4 Years Later and I would say Wood is ahead of Hampson by a Fair Way.
Wood is Still Developing and Growing into his Body(Like Warnock) and Building a Tank.
Why is Bryan is getting a Game instead of Wood, Well I would love to know Myself because I reckon Wood Should be Playing Instead of Bryan
Pfft, So Hampson beat Wood in the u-18's, Well it's 4 Years Later and I would say Wood is ahead of Hampson by a Fair Way.
Wood is Still Developing and Growing into his Body(Like Warnock) and Building a Tank.
Why is Bryan is getting a Game instead of Wood, Well I would love to know Myself because I reckon Wood Should be Playing Instead of Bryan
Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
It was actually in senior footy with Wood already having an AFL pre-season under his belt and Hampson too young to be drafted.
It was actually in senior footy with Wood already having an AFL pre-season under his belt and Hampson too young to be drafted.
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Who was the Game Between?
Those Remeber was Very Skinny Then and Hampson would be more Athletic then Wood.
Our Rookie Pick Keeffe has the Same Background as Hampson
Who was the Game Between?
Those Remeber was Very Skinny Then and Hampson would be more Athletic then Wood.
Our Rookie Pick Keeffe has the Same Background as Hampson
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Re: Warnock Simmlar to Wood Trade
Generally, talented young ruckmen seek the opportunity to establish themselves in the AFL, not compete with two other similarly-aged ruckmen taken around the first round of the draft. There's something decidedly NQR about it, logic dictates Melbourne would be a far better destination in terms of his AFL career.
The same is true of Warnock though, which is why it's a strange move to pick up another skinny ruck prospect when you already have two on your list you consider keepers.
Bailey and Renouf are in a different age bracket to Taylor and Campbell. Kreuzer/Hampson/Warnock are all in a similar age group. Hence why it is strange list management.
I don't recall questioning your selection of Hampson, nor what he did in Qld, nor whether we were interested in him at the time of the 2006 draft. It was a lovely diatribe nonetheless. I was, however, questioning why you would want another young, skinny, underdeveloped ruck in Warnock when you already have two of them on whom you've spent early draft picks. Generally, sides only seek to develop one or two at a time. If Warnock is lacking opportunity at Fremantle, I don't know why he'd want to be competing with Kreuzer and Hampson in a few years. At Melbourne he wouldn't have any such concerns.That Kreuzer is a dud.
One of the reasons we picked Hampson is Hughes saw him beat the more experienced Wood in a match in Queensland.
Hampson must have made an impression, because there alot of people at Hampson's next game and Collingwood would have picked Hampson at ten if Reid was gone.
You might be able to find the video of said interview on your official website.
Renouf and Tippet were picked after Hampson, so we weren't the only club to spend a second round pick on a young Queensland ruckman.
Wood's only been at the club for one year, not four, and was taken in the 2004 draft, meaning when he came to Collingwood he'd been in the system three years. He was taken bottom-aged, unlike Hampson who although he had a soccer background, was top-aged and had a much more developed body. Also, he's being groomed to replace one of Fraser or Bryan when he's ready, not necessarily the minute he reaches the club. At the Lions he would have had to compete with Leuenberger who is a freak.
Generally, talented young ruckmen seek the opportunity to establish themselves in the AFL, not compete with two other similarly-aged ruckmen taken around the first round of the draft. There's something decidedly NQR about it, logic dictates Melbourne would be a far better destination in terms of his AFL career.
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