Prediction Michael Barlow

[lunacy]

What if he plays and Thommo also plays?

I think this sums up what everyone's fears are and why many are against getting Barlow.

i think Thommo would have been made aware there is a very good chance he won't be a starting 22 player, particularly if we bring in a better player.

 

[Jack is Back]

Noble gone and we've got our first coach going into his second season since Sando. Year 1 is assessment and you couldn't blame him for thinking Thommo's early form would hold up. Hell, even the best judges around here, like Jack is Back , thought his form would hold. But even he was suggesting he not be part of our best 22 by year's end. Year 2 is the correction.

Still posting about Thommo in the Barlow thread?
#thommocutmylunch

 

[1970crow]

I see your Noble and raise you a Campo

Noble was head of football, so set the direction. Campo will fall in line, he clearly has no ideas of his own, so he'll follow Pyke's lead.

 

[1970crow]

Still posting about Thommo in the Barlow thread?
#thommocutmylunch

Ha ha, you'll again notice that Thommo's name continues to be mentioned by others. But you're not snarky with them. Not my fault you misread the tea leaves so badly. Not the judge you believed yourself to be. But you eventually got it right, but for some odd reason, continue to suggest there's bias when I was simply predicting a certainty based on past events. The blokes body is cooked, as you'd expect given the amount of games he's played and the way he used his body. But feel free to continue to be a knob, just because I was ahead of the game and your great self lagged a loooong way behind.

 

[Ramify]

Still posting about Thommo in the Barlow thread?
#thommocutmylunch

It is relevant.

You aren't one of these fans that just can't give up hope based on the players number you ware on your gameday outfit are you?

It is a massive and legitimate concern.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Ha ha, you'll again notice that Thommo's name continues to be mentioned by others. But you're not snarky with them. Not my fault you misread the tea leaves so badly. Not the judge you believed yourself to be. But you eventually got it right, but for some odd reason, continue to suggest there's bias when I was simply predicting a certainty based on past events. The blokes body is cooked, as you'd expect given the amount of games he's played and the way he used his body. But feel free to continue to be a knob, just because I was ahead of the game and your great self lagged a loooong way behind.

Slightly hypocritical statements

 

[lunacy]

Correct me if I am wrong but Luke Ball left StKilda, in this instance Freo got rid of Barlow because tthey dont believe he can do anything in their top 22

If he cant make Freo's 22 and Freo feels he has nothing left to offer the group why the helll will he make ours

Everyone is fully aware of Barlows injury history

Ridiculous comment. Freo have a very deep midfield (it's their strength) and they were trying to rebuild, replenish, replumb.
Fyfe, Mundy, Neale, Bennell, S.Hill, Blakely, Weller, Tucker, Balic and have now added B.Hill. That's an incredibly strong and well balanced starting line up (bolded). Then the guys listed after that are after them are the next tier who they're madly trying to get games into given their ladder position.
It was either Barlow or Mundy who needed to go given their great depth in that area and one of them is the captain.
Barlow was the obvious choice, but not because he isn't any good.

 

[Jack is Back]

Ha ha, you'll again notice that Thommo's name continues to be mentioned by others. But you're not snarky with them. Not my fault you misread the tea leaves so badly. Not the judge you believed yourself to be. But you eventually got it right, but for some odd reason, continue to suggest there's bias when I was simply predicting a certainty based on past events. The blokes body is cooked, as you'd expect given the amount of games he's played and the way he used his body. But feel free to continue to be a knob, just because I was ahead of the game and your great self lagged a loooong way behind.

So if I declare that Sloane is cooked and in 7 years time his form drops off, can I declare that I could see the decline well before the average punter?

You have been obsessed with Thommo for a long, long time and it is not only boring but also disrespectful. If you were not so busy performing microsurgery on Thommo's every move you would have noticed that I have never been a huge supporter of Thommo. His form did decline last year but he was still in our best 22. Do you really think he was our worst midfielder against Sydney?

I would have pushed for Thommo to be dropped in the first half of last season if we had a better inside mid to bring into the team. CEY is a poorer version of Thommo, same story with Grigg. Brouch and Knight were injured, Gore was struggling. Greenwood and Wigg improved dramatically during the season and will be pushing for a spot next year. A fit Barlow is better than the 2016 Thommo but Barlow looked as cooked as Thommo at various stages last season.

Any chance that you will stop posting about Thommo once he has retired?

 

[mattymac]

Noble was head of football, so set the direction. Campo will fall in line, he clearly has no ideas of his own, so he'll follow Pyke's lead.

I have the feeling Pyke is a bit of a follower. He started the season like a new man and by end of he was classic Adelaide.

 

[mattymac]

So if I declare that Sloane is cooked and in 7 years time his form drops off, can I declare that I could see the decline well before the average punter?

You have been obsessed with Thommo for a long, long time and it is not only boring but also disrespectful. If you were not so busy performing microsurgery on Thommo's every move you would have noticed that I have never been a huge supporter of Thommo. His form did decline last year but he was still in our best 22. Do you really think he was our worst midfielder against Sydney?

I would have pushed for Thommo to be dropped in the first half of last season if we had a better inside mid to bring into the team. CEY is a poorer version of Thommo, same story with Grigg. Brouch and Knight were injured, Gore was struggling. Greenwood and Wigg improved dramatically during the season and will be pushing for a spot next year. A fit Barlow is better than the 2016 Thommo but Barlow looked as cooked as Thommo at various stages last season.

Any chance that you will stop posting about Thommo once he has retired?

I used to think you were quite a sharp poster. Fact is, if we took winning seriously, instead of just being 'better than most teams' "especially port", we would've delisted Thommo back when he was only 32.

We knew 2017 was our window. If we put the last 2 years into Grigg or CEY instead of cripple league Thommo they'd be at or past the 50 games and their output now would certainly be beyond anything 34 year old Thommo can do.

That's the ******edness behind "best available". There's no point being at your best when you can't compete seriously with the top sides. Timing is everything.

Anyone who thinks Grigg or CEY wouldn't accumulate more than 24 possessions if they had been given 2 years of confidence and trust from the club is a full blown idiot.

Really irresponsible list management keeping Thommo on since 2014. Just a complete lack of faith shown in our young midfielders. Crippling culture. Everyone knows our backs and forwards pick themselves it's our midfield we have neutered ourselves with, giving games to dangerfield 6 months after we knew he was leaving and gifting games to Thommo for 3 years after even the basic punter could see he's a one trick spud well past it.

If we get to a grand final while Camporeale still holds sway at the club with his cronyism I will pay Balinese widows to grate my balls into a milkshake.

Balls. Imagine if our club had them.

 

[macca23]

Barlow's main pull won't be premiership window, it will be game opportunity and length of contract

I can see GC offering a 3 year deal plus more guaranteed game time

You're 50% right according to the radio guy who works with Barlow and has discussed it with him - game opportunity etc

But the premiership window aspect is important to Barlow. He wants to play in a team that is a flag chance, and has spent a lot of time talking to Pyke.

I think we're a big chance.

 

[1970crow]

I have the feeling Pyke is a bit of a follower. He started the season like a new man and by end of he was classic Adelaide.

I think that was courtesy of having a good season where our best footy was pretty good. Close losses early to contenders and some good wins suggested we were amongst it. It fell in the same hole late in the year against high quality and hungry sides, but I can understand why they ended up all in on the season.

Persisting with out of form seniors and giving them the inevitable thrashings late in the year to find their form was disappointing. As was going in with clearly injured players. But I never expected Pyke to come in and overule the beliefs of Noble, Campo and Clarke in his first year. I can understand why many are of the same view as yours and Pyke's developnent is of some concern, but I expect he'll be much more in control of the direction we're driving next year. I'm reasonably confident that our highly valued but underperformed experienced guys won't be given the same latitude bext year. But I'm not surprised that many don't share my optimism.

 

[Mattrox]

Club is in a now win situation.


If we get him Bigfooty melts because we are getting offcasts from a bottom club.


If we don't Bigfooty melts because we failed to get the deal done and let another club rip him from our grasp.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Club is in a now win situation.


If we get him Bigfooty melts because we are getting offcasts from a bottom club.


If we don't Bigfooty melts because we failed to get the deal done and let another club rip him from our grasp.

How about declare we're not interested in him because we're backing in our youth and organic growth? Would at least be consistent with what we said a week ago.

 

[Carmo]

Club is in a now win situation.
If we get him Bigfooty melts because we are getting offcasts from a bottom club.
If we don't Bigfooty melts because we failed to get the deal done and let another club rip him from our grasp.

This is bigfooty decoded. The place is becoming fuller of people who follow this system. Not only that their melts are becoming stronger and they do it over ever more insignificant stuff.

Heaven help someone that comes on here and suggests sensible sh.. Then the melters feel aggrieved that some one dares not melt ..... and start having melts over that.

So sad its funny.

 

[adelaidecrows]

How about declare we're not interested in him because we're backing in our youth and organic growth? Would at least be consistent with what we said a week ago.

There is a difference between not selling the farm for Gibbs and claiming backing in our organic growth and getting Barlow on the cheap. I don't think that makes the club inconsistent with their message at all. We can drop Barlow to SANFL duty if he isn't performing with no backlash because he comes with no pressure to play him in the first place because he costs us nothing. It's really a win win because we can't lose out of this if we add him to the squad.

 

[Elite Crow]

Club is in a now win situation.


If we get him Bigfooty melts because we are getting offcasts from a bottom club.


If we don't Bigfooty melts because we failed to get the deal done and let another club rip him from our grasp.

This is bigfooty decoded. The place is becoming fuller of people who follow this system. Not only that their melts are becoming stronger and they do it over ever more insignificant stuff.

Heaven help someone that comes on here and suggests sensible sh.. Then the melters feel aggrieved that some one dares not melt ..... and start having melts over that.

So sad its funny.

Actually BigFooty decoded is shit posting like this.

I hope we dont get Barlow and I won't give a shit if we don't make the deal happen. I believe this view would be shared by those that don't want him.

But somehow making up shit like above is supposed to be quality posting?

Carmo is the above an example of sensible shit?

Because to me as irritating you might find people complaining over club failings, it's posters making shit up that irritates me.

Yesterday we had an example of Johnny Rutten complaining that there were posters complaining that we didn't give up 2 firsts for Gibbs and instead going for Barlow. This has not been the case but he got some backslaps, for what? Making up shit.

 

[Elite Crow]

There is a difference between not selling the farm for Gibbs and claiming backing in our organic growth and getting Barlow on the cheap. I don't think that makes the club inconsistent with their message at all. We can drop Barlow to SANFL duty if he isn't performing with no backlash because he comes with no pressure to play him in the first place because he costs us nothing. It's really a win win because we can't lose out of this if we add him to the squad.

Way to miss the point.

The club spun that we intended on going into the draft with 13 and relying on organic growth because of all the talent we have in the wings, the change to that was Gibbs almost falling in our laps, cough cough, bullshit.

When that failed we said don't worry we always planned on backing our organic growth, no big deal.

Now the minute a new option becomes available we are all over it. Even if this option is a slow midfielder, who handballs a lot with questionable kicking.

If we truly felt our organic growth was ripe we wouldn't bother. But clearly we don't, hence the need for Barlow and hence why our original claim was bullshit.

As for Barlow, he won't cost us a pick but he will cost us a 3 year deal on reasonable money. He will cost us organic growth.

 

[skoobydoo]

There is a difference between not selling the farm for Gibbs and claiming backing in our organic growth and getting Barlow on the cheap. I don't think that makes the club inconsistent with their message at all. We can drop Barlow to SANFL duty if he isn't performing with no backlash because he comes with no pressure to play him in the first place because he costs us nothing. It's really a win win because we can't lose out of this if we add him to the squad.

But isn't that kinda reminiscent of the Grandpa hat hanging scene from the Simpsons?

 

[adelaidecrows]

Way to miss the point.

The club spun that we intended on going into the draft with 13 and relying on organic growth because of all the talent we have in the wings, the change to that was Gibbs almost falling in our laps, cough cough, bullshit.

When that failed we said don't worry we always planned on backing our organic growth, no big deal.

Now the minute a new option becomes available we are all over it. Even if this option is a slow midfielder, who handballs a lot with questionable kicking.

If we truly felt our organic growth was ripe we wouldn't bother. But clearly we don't, hence the need for Barlow and hence why our original claim was bullshit.

As for Barlow, he won't cost us a pick but he will cost us a 3 year deal on reasonable money. He will cost us organic growth.

Look I get that and all your points are very valid. All I am saying is if you get the opportunity to add extra quality depth free of charge whats the harm in taking it especially if you aren't confident of getting much quality past the 3rd round. I personally don't care if we get him or not. I like the idea of creating a new look best 22 out of what we already have. I've said it before, Pyke needs to be proactive an insert his influence onto the best 22 and be willing to change things up. But to me Barlow is a win win regardless. I would be disappointed if he gets anything other than a 1 year deal though.

 

[marty36]

I'm more concerned with turning CEY' Menzel, Hampton, Wigg, Kelly, Greenwood, Dear into full time AFL players and more time in terms of game time should be given to this than Old broken down Barlow who might play two or three good games in his one year left in elite footy, FFS if Thommo is given the same as opportunity as Barlow is probably going to be given he will probably perform better he keeps himself in better nick than Barlow and has had less injuries. Thommo has been a far superior player to Barlow and that is a fact

 

[Elite Crow]

Look I get that and all your points are very valid. All I am saying is if you get the opportunity to add extra quality depth free of charge whats the harm in taking it especially if you aren't confident of getting much quality past the 3rd round. I personally don't care if we get him or not. I like the idea of creating a new look best 22 out of what we already have. I've said it before, Pyke needs to be proactive an insert his influence onto the best 22 and be willing to change things up. But to me Barlow is a win win regardless. I would be disappointed if he gets anything other than a 1 year deal though.

But that's unrealistic because when he has a choice of clubs he is not coming for a 1 year deal.

 

[Tex200]

Club is in a now win situation.


If we get him Bigfooty melts because we are getting offcasts from a bottom club.


If we don't Bigfooty melts because we failed to get the deal done and let another club rip him from our grasp.

The club puts itself in that kind of position with its mixed messaging.

 

[skoobydoo]

I have the feeling Pyke is a bit of a follower. He started the season like a new man and by end of he was classic Adelaide.

I finished up unsure about Pykey as the season went and I hope he shows his command a bit more this season. I know he was feeling his 1st season way and then the finals emerged as a real chance but Our selection process was confusing at times. The complications with Henderson, playing well and then dropped so as not to trigger his contract, then delisting. Why bother with him at all? Then stringing Lyons out and the continued selection of decaying/declining and poor performing 'experienced seniors' coupled with the non-trying of juniors was perplexing. Seems the selection, as it related to our list management, was locked into the next weekend from each Thursday night. I understand Pykey plays his cards close to his chest as an operator but I hope to see a more obvious stronger theme to our selection in 2017.

 

[Paladin]

I finished up unsure about Pykey as the season went and I hope he shows his command a bit more this season. I know he was feeling his 1st season way and then the finals emerged as a real chance but Our selection process was confusing at times. The complications with Henderson, playing well and then dropped so as not to trigger his contract, then delisting. Why bother with him at all? Then stringing Lyons out and the continued selection of decaying/declining and poor performing 'experienced seniors' coupled with the non-trying of juniors was perplexing. Seems the selection, as it related to our list management, was locked into the next weekend from each Thursday night. I understand Pykey plays his cards close to his chest as an operator but I hope to see a more obvious stronger theme to our selection in 2017.

Agree I don't think he wanted to play Henderson or perhaps even Lyons but he also wanted to be fair and reward good form with selection.

Cant worry too much about being fair and consistent with selection - its his team Pyke needs to pick the players he wants to play his gamestyle. Hopefully he goes with it from day 1 in 2017. No need to gift VB a few games or to give David Mackay a chance to prove himself again Pyke has seen it all firsthand now.