Mick Malthouse's comments re: Ted Whitten

[tonk]

Teddy Whitten wipes his arse with blokes like Malthouse. Ted is a god of our game, Malthouse isnt.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

29 State of Origin games against the best national players. There are legends that played longer than 20 years ago

Just to clear a little matter up. State of Origin was first played in 1977.

Some of you younguns need to do a little reading before posting.

 

[sr36]

Could this thread be renamed: I hate Malthouse.

Let's face it. That's what this thread is about. Surely noone can be outraged by him basically saying that Matthews, Barassi and Mchale are definite legends of the game, whereas Whitten and Bartlett are probably legends of the game.

 

[Qsaint]

Could this thread be renamed: I hate Malthouse.

Let's face it. That's what this thread is about. Surely noone can be outraged by him basically saying that Matthews, Barassi and Mchale are definite legends of the game, whereas Whitten and Bartlett are probably legends of the game.

Kevin Bartlett was a very good footballer, he Probably deserves to be there.

Ted whiten was a good footballer no doubt, but compared to other players in that era he is probably not in the top couple of players. Guys like Skilton and Farmer, Melbourne won 6 premierships in the early part of his career so you think Barrasi had some help. Even St Kilda had Baldock and Stewart.

Durability is good but not the defining attribute of a great player, otherwise Tuck should be the greatest player of all time.

I would think Chris Grant was just about the best modern player to play for Footscray.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Just to clear a little matter up. State of Origin was first played in 1977.

Some of you younguns need to do a little reading before posting.

Prior to then it was a state carnival (teams playing up to 5 games a series)

Back on topic, theres no doubt whitten is a football legend, however, his post football career really elevated him, really he probably had a footy career slightly better then John Peck (not that it is a bad thing, peck was a star in his own right)

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

As a person? Dunno about that. Whitten was one of the biggest knobs I've ever met. Multiplied when he was pissed.

Legend of the game, though.

Maybe it was just you he didn't like.

When myself and my dad met him circa early - mid 90's while on holidays in Noosa he had all the time in the world for a chat, and didn't mind signing a couple of autographs.

Must have chatted him with him for 15-20 mins about footy and life in general.

Top bloke. I still remember his handshake, it was as hard as a rock.

By the way it's bad form to speak ill of the dead. Calling someone a knob when they can't defend themself is weak.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Maybe it was just you he didn't like.

When myself and my dad met him circa early - mid 90's while on holidays in Noosa he had all the time in the world for a chat, and didn't mind signing a couple of autographs.

Must have chatted him with him for 15-20 mins about footy and life in general.

Top bloke. I still remember his handshake, it was as hard as a rock.

By the way it's bad form to speak ill of the dead. Calling someone a knob when they can't defend themself is weak.

So if someone who's a knob dies, you can't ever say so ever again? Ridiculous.

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

So if someone who's a knob dies, you can't ever say so ever again? Ridiculous.

Comes down to how you're brought up I guess.

 

[liam_13]

Maybe it was just you he didn't like.

When myself and my dad met him circa early - mid 90's while on holidays in Noosa he had all the time in the world for a chat, and didn't mind signing a couple of autographs.

Must have chatted him with him for 15-20 mins about footy and life in general.

Top bloke. I still remember his handshake, it was as hard as a rock.

By the way it's bad form to speak ill of the dead. Calling someone a knob when they can't defend themself is weak.

I don't think you can make a decision on a 15 minute conversation. Chances are, if you were a child and told him you were going for the Bulldogs, he was going to be friendly...even if he was a complete w***er.

I've never met him myself, so I don't know if he was a good bloke, or a w***er. But there has been stuff (actually true) talked about him in the media...as to his personal life with women..there was an article about it.

I'm sure there is a thread about it. Possibly on the Bulldogs board because I remember there were many Dogs fans saying it was an unnecessary article, which I agree with, but yeah, that's my recollection of the thread.

As to speaking ill of the dead and saying they can't defend themselves, they don't need to defend themselves, because they don't know they were abused. Because they're dead..

 

[robertg22]

I only know what I have seen. I know Malthouse called a player a rapist and then lied about it, I know he abuses and intimidates young journalists who are just doing their job, I also know he calls young players from other teams cheats. I think that's enough to get an insight into what kind of person you are dealing with.

No disputing he is a great coach, and from all reports, treats his players very well. But there has been a few to many incidents like the ones I highlighted above, to make me think he is anything other than a prick. Great coach though like I said.

Funnily enough I've met Mick a couple of times and he's only ever been a humble, courteous bloke who was a pleasure to talk to. But go ahead, just form opinions about people from stuff you read..

 

[sherb]

I see you thank Dick Pratt in your sig.

So you'd be happy for people to piss on Dick Pratt's grave just because in their opinion he was a crook?

He said people were allowed to have an opinion.

He didn't mention anything about being happy or otherwise with that opinion.

 

[Burzum]

Comes down to how you're brought up I guess.

Stalin was a top bloke in your eyes?

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

Stalin was a top bloke in your eyes?

Was waiting for some smartarse to chime in with a Hitler/Pol Pot/etc comment, and here you are.

Bit of a stretch putting a Legend of the game in the same sentence with one of the worlds greatest monsters.

If you blokes want to slag off the dead, go right ahead. What goes around comes around.

 

[Dalphonso]

Stalin was a top bloke in your eyes?

He must have been alright because they named Stalingrad after him

 

[dogsbody]

....he really he probably had a footy career slightly better then John Peck (not that it is a bad thing, peck was a star in his own right)

That's a serious underestimate of Whitten's abilities and impact on the game and an even more serious overestimate of Peck's. Peck was a so so ruckman who turned into a reliable full forward in a very good team. It's akin to saying that Judd had a footy career slightly better than Sumich.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Maybe it was just you he didn't like.

When myself and my dad met him circa early - mid 90's while on holidays in Noosa he had all the time in the world for a chat, and didn't mind signing a couple of autographs.

Must have chatted him with him for 15-20 mins about footy and life in general.

Top bloke. I still remember his handshake, it was as hard as a rock.

By the way it's bad form to speak ill of the dead. Calling someone a knob when they can't defend themself is weak.

I thought the same about the bloke when he was alive too. His passing has made little difference to an opinion I established based upon Ted's actions at a couple of functions we both attended. He was obnoxious, narcissistic and at one point had to be restrained from belting a disabled bloke who got a laugh at Ted's expense.

Over the years I've had a fair bit to do with quite a number of league footballers. I could not speak highly enough of many of them such as Terry Daniher, Peter Crimmins, Kevin Sheedy, Jim Stynes and a few lesser known players. At the risk of infuriating the Magpie fraternity, I saw the worst side of Darren Millane on a number of occasions, but it's difficult to reason with irrational hero worship.

I like to think I form judgement on a person based upon his or her demeanour and behaviours, either in my company or in that of people whose judgement I trust. It is irrelevant whether it is a he or a she, living or dead, Tiger or non-Tiger, famous or infamous, a legend or a nobody.

Is it truly any weaker making judgement calls about the dead than doing so whilst protected by the anonymity offered by such a forum as this?

My goal is certainly not to spoil the good time you had with your dad when meeting Teddy.

 

[Messenger]

I look forward to Mick's regular slot with Neil Mitchell "what's wrong with the world and how I'd fix it". I think he spent too long listening to Andy Maher telling him he was the best in the business. Andy should have specified which business.

 

[incubi]

I have no idea if whitten was a good bloke or not, but he was definitely a champion footballer who won 5 bnfs including in a premiership year, represented his state 29 times and held the games record. I think his record, and the fact he was recognised as a legend in the first intake, as well as his role in the team of the century ends this thread.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I first met Ted at the Sheraton Hotel in Perth. I stepped into the lift and Ted was standing there. I said hello, Ted smiled, thrust out his hand and said "Ted Whitten". We had a quick chat and a laugh, and he left the impression he was a really good bloke. I mewt him several times since then, and my first impression never altered.

Not sure why anyone would label him a knob.

 

[royalsfan]

What an over reaction. Surely Mick is entitled to his opinion just like anyone else.

 

[The_Doctor]

Just wondering how would Whitten's stats line up in comparison to a Brad Johnson?

 

[Testekill]

Just wondering how would Whitten's stats line up in comparison to a Brad Johnson?

Different kinds of player from different eras remember. Whitten was a tall KPP that held down both CHB and CHF while Johnson was a winger who became a very good undersized FF in his later years.

 

[lock33]

Is it truly any weaker making judgement calls about the dead than doing so whilst protected by the anonymity offered by such a forum as this?

yes because you dont know who youre speaking to

 

[peejay]

The Dogs won the flag in 1954, not 2 years before Malthouse was born.

Whitten was a very very good player.

Only a very very good player hey Fred.

Guess you would call Riewoldt , harvey, burke and loewe very very good players as well.

Whitten was clearly better than all of those.

 

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