Multicultural Round - Why?

[Lance Uppercut]

I detect a common theme here, you continually trying to bring up differences and isolating different races/religions... hmmmmmmmm

"in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character"..... think about it

do you believe boys are different to girls?

 

[Byron2008]

do you believe boys are different to girls?

wow loosely equating different races to genders now?? the plot thickens....................... do go on...

 

[Lance Uppercut]

wow loosely equating different races to genders now?? the plot thickens....................... do go on...

answer the question. I'm waiting for you to tell me that boys are the same as girls and treating them any differently is wrong. Otherwise you'd be admitting there are differences in humanity that should be recognised and celebrated as such, and be humiliated that your logic is such fail

 

[Byron2008]

answer the question. I'm waiting for you to tell me that boys are the same as girls and treating them any differently is wrong.

I believe males and females should be treated equally my bigoted friend.

 

[Ron The Bear]

you're equating any of that with being offended by moves to lessen racism?

You need to examine your logic.

How did we become the bad guys in our own country? Do we still have a national identity? May as well pack the lot up and become a republic. Start again and name it 'Generica'.

 

[Astro Bomber]

That in its purest form is a form of racism.. The very fact you bring up Race as an issue, is racist. . Martin Luther King - "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character"

I have highlighted the key word here. It's still a dream. People still judge books by their cover.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

How did we become the bad guys in our own country? Do we still have a national identity? May as well pack the lot up and become a republic. Start again and name it 'Generica'.

that is another crazy leap in logic. Honestly, where do you get this stuff?

Our national identity remains, but is enhanced by different cultures. Surely you don't think living in the days when an exotic meal was fish and chips instead of meat n three veg was better?

 

[Byron2008]

I have highlighted the key word here. It's still a dream. People still judge books by their cover.

Very true

.....and as long as have rounds like these, we will just continually pander to those (Like Lance Uppercut) who discriminate people on the basis on race/religion/gender.

 

[Ron The Bear]

that is another crazy leap in logic. Honestly, where do you get this stuff?

Our national identity remains, but is enhanced by different cultures. Surely you don't think living in the days when an exotic meal was fish and chips instead of meat n three veg was better?

What does it mean to be Australian? We don't have a national identity. We've been hopelessly divided by minorities, all pulling in different directions and aided by leftist cultural cringe. It's no wonder our politicians seem hopeless, they don't know how to represent us.

 

[Forward Press]

I am completely baffled as to how some users think a round celebrating difference is perpetuating difference and is more racist and segregational than if we weren't.

 

[Astro Bomber]

Very true

.....and as long as have rounds like these, we will just continually pander to those (Like Lance Uppercut) who discriminate people on the basis on race/religion/gender.

I think you miss my point. Problem isn't going to go away if we forget about it. You have to chase your "dreams".

But you maybe right. Unfortunately a round like this is going to be misunderstood and make more people bitter and make some people say "Where's the white people round".

 

[Forward Press]

What does it mean to be Australian? We don't have a national identity. We've been hopelessly divided by minorities, all pulling in different directions and aided by leftist cultural cringe. It's no wonder our politicians seem hopeless, they don't know how to represent us.

Our national identity is pretty strong - we are a nation of people from many different lands that celebrates living in a liberal democracy. Who says 'national identity' is all about what the majority ethnic group celebrates?

 

[Ron The Bear]

Our national identity is pretty strong - we are a nation of people from many different lands that celebrates living in a liberal democracy. Who says 'national identity' is all about what the majority ethnic group celebrates?

Example: Most Muslims vote Labor. Labor tacitly supports gay marriage. Muslims detest homosexuality.

 

[The_Koach]

Very true

.....and as long as have rounds like these, we will just continually pander to those (Like Lance Uppercut) who discriminate people on the basis on race/religion/gender.

To use the female round as a real life example (in my opinion)...

In the past, women were not given the time of day within football circles. Footy was purely a male dominated sport, which extended from playing, to umpiring, to administration etc. There was no women's round. There were no female board members or umpires. Women were not given a fair go, purely based on their gender. They were told to look after womens issues, or sports such as netball.

In relatively recent times, I would suggest that this stereotype is being somewhat quashed. We are seeing more female board members, umpires, players, trainers, coaches etc then ever before. I am sure there are some within football at all levels that are still living in the past, however for the most part this message is getting through.

I would suggest that womens round (round 17 IIRC) does a fantastic job to highlight the work and efforts that females are currently putting in to football at all levels of footy. I don't see it as highlighting the fact that women are different to the men who have been doing it for years, I see it as highlighting the fact that in the current day, there are plenty of opportunities for women to be involved in footy. For those women who are wanting to get involved in some way shape or form, this is no longer something that is looked down upon.

I really battle to see how a scenario such as womens round can be classified as sexist, or multicultural round racist etc.

 

[Forward Press]

Example: Most Muslims vote Labor. Labor tacitly supports gay marriage. Muslims detest homosexuality.

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Ron The Bear]

What does that have to do with anything?

Divisions within society.

Anyway, you go ahead and cheer for multicultural round this weekend. I'll just watch the footy.

 

[Forward Press]

Divisions within society.

Anyway, you go ahead and cheer for multicultural round this weekend. I'll just watch the footy.

I really don't care that much, but if the AFL wants to use this round to promote multiculturalism then I'm all for it.

The point is that a true liberal democracy embraces difference - people are all different, but the important thing is that they are treated fairly and equally. Which is why I was confused about you saying that this initiative promotes 'divisions within society'.

 

[Ron The Bear]

The point is that a true liberal democracy embraces difference - people are all different, but the important thing is that they are treated fairly and equally. Which is why I was confused about you saying that this initiative promotes 'divisions within society'.

This particular initiative dilutes the game's Australian flavour rather than divides people. I just don't get the modern ideal of "diversity". Couldn't give a rat's what god Houli prays to, as long as he gets a kick.

These days, promotion of the game is less about what actually happens on the field than peripheral "issues".

 

[Forward Press]

This particular initiative dilutes the game's Australian flavour rather than divides people. I just don't get the modern ideal of "diversity". Couldn't give a rat's what god Houli prays to, as long as he gets a kick.

These days, promotion of the game is less about what actually happens on the field than peripheral "issues".

Fair point, if you don't like how AFL is more than just what happens on the field that's an opinion you are entitled to have.

I just think AFL is far more than what the players do on the field nowadays though.

 

[mattymac]

Needless posturing

 

[Mattrox]

I don't mind a multicultural round. I don't mind celebrating the diverisity. I love diverse cuisine, music and art from around the world. People are different and the difference can be celebrated rather than "pretending" everyone is exactly the same and being all PC about it.

People from other cultures that do not have Aussie Rules as their traditional sport have contributed to Aussie rules. I see no problem in celebrating difference, because a celebration is not a finger pointing excercise.

However, to answer the question, I think it has something to do with corporate box tickets, reading between the lines in this. Don't know if this has been posted before because I didn't read every page... ooops
http://www.theage.com.au/business/a...abs-footy-feelgood-factor-20110513-1emf5.html

 

[Ron The Bear]

I just think AFL is far more than what the players do on the field nowadays though.

And most of it is bullshit. It was mentioned on the radio the other day that there are three times as many accredited journalists reporting on the AFL as there are on Australian politics. That's a lot of bureaucracy, a lot of fluff.

 

[Forward Press]

And most of it is bullshit. It was mentioned on the radio the other day that there are three times as many accredited journalists reporting on the AFL as there are on Australian politics. That's a lot of bureaucracy, a lot of fluff.

And one institution is far more important.









The AFL deserves more journalists.

In all seriousness, if that's true it's quite ridiculous. Comes with the territory though and I guess it's a healthy sign that our game is growing.

 

[Ron The Bear]

In all seriousness, if that's true it's quite ridiculous. Comes with the territory though and I guess it's a healthy sign that our game is growing.

It's the desire to be all-consuming, the blotting out of other sports, the attempts at social engineering that shit me. The AFL is a behemoth, and I suspect it's not sustainable. Fingers in too many pies.

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

This particular initiative dilutes the game's Australian flavour rather than divides people. I just don't get the modern ideal of "diversity". Couldn't give a rat's what god Houli prays to, as long as he gets a kick.

These days, promotion of the game is less about what actually happens on the field than peripheral "issues".

What do you mean by this?