Review Neeld's player review

[Old Spice]

On the Pies site

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/newsfeatures/news/newsarticle/tabid/5586/newsid/105472/default.aspx

John Anthony (delisted)
It was a frustrating year for Jack. He played about eight senior games. We played Jack at both ends of the ground, primarily as a leading, hit-up forward target but he also went through the backline as a key back. Jack also has the potential as someone who could play on a medium forward. He's made the decision that he may have better opportunities to play senior football elsewhere and we wish Jack all the best.

Luke Ball
Luke made an outstanding contribution to the football club in his first season, both on and off the field. He's extremely professional in his preparation. He leads by example and his ability to be the inside midfielder for us this year was critical.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/newsfeatures/news/newsarticle/tabid/5586/newsid/105472/default.aspx

 

[Zahki]

Every single player had a good year! Thanks Mark!

 

[esc0bar]

On Leon Davis:
"He did at times play injured, which in the long run probably had a big effect on Leon's ability to see out games and provide that dynamic pace that we're used to. Hopefully for Leon he'll be able to get rid of those lower-limb injuries over the pre-season."

If Leon does he is a certain starter for the 21. Does anyone have any idea what those injuries were?

 

[Swooop]

If Leon does he is a certain starter for the 21. Does anyone have any idea what those injuries were?

No.

But if i had to hazard a guess, either lower back most likely, or groins.

It confirms what we pretty much all thought, i think.

 

[jonbe54]

No.

But if i had to hazard a guess, either lower back most likely, or groins.

It confirms what we pretty much all thought, i think.

Yeah he was well down on pace and impact explains to the doubters

 

[mattys123]

A few comments stand out;

Scott Pendlebury
He continued his development into the more-elite level of the league's midfielders. He's hugely important. He's a young leader and his decision-making skills, which are of an extremely high standard, were on show throughout the finals. He can definitely get better.

Wow, if they Neeld think's he can better, there might be no stopping Pendles, he could be the best player in the comp within 2 years.

Luke Rounds
Luke had a very good VFL year. He was curtailed three-quarters of the way through as he needed surgery on his shoulder. He was named emergency for the senior side three times, which indicated his development. He's put on more muscle mass since coming back to training. We're looking forward to playing him at either end of the ground.

Jack Anthony's replacement? (I know he's a little shorter, but he has immense talent).

Alan Toovey
Alan is a really valued member of the back six. He's now starting to provide drive and run from the half-back line, but he also has that ability just to shut down players at times. He went into the midfield at times and that will continue next season.

Could Toovey turn into our "tagger", it is probably the one thing we really lack, a consistent midfield tagger.

I'm glad someone at Collingwood took the time to do this, it gives us supporters an insight that we otherwise don't get.

 

[Quicky]

Every single player had a good year! Thanks Mark!

Yep unless they were injured or decided to go home (aka got sacked).

Pretty uninspired read on the whole.

I found Sinclairs interesting though, anyone else get the impression from that write up that he had shin splints towards the end of the year? Or maybe stress fractures?

 

[drummoyne]

Would have been good if it gave a better insight into the Blight situation.

 

[Lockyer24]

Re: Pendles I watched the finals series this week, God he was amazing. Will win the 2011 Brownlow!!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Hopefully for Leon he'll be able to get rid of those lower-limb injuries over the pre-season."

If Leon does he is a certain starter for the 21. Does anyone have any idea what those injuries were?

Lower limb injuries would imply injuries to the lower limbs.

Calf, I'd say, without fear of contradiction.

 

[Swooop]

Yep unless they were injured or decided to go home (aka got sacked).

Pretty uninspired read on the whole.

I found Sinclairs interesting though, anyone else get the impression from that write up that he had shin splints towards the end of the year? Or maybe stress fractures?

Yeah, that area I think. As I understand, shin splints is a overuse reaction, otherwise known as medial tibial stress syndrome. If that abnormal overuse 'stress' reaction goes on too long, then it evolves into a stress fracture situation, which can then go on to a full on fracture. So it's all a continuum.

Its like when you get a piece of wire, and keep bending it back and forward at the same point, it gradually develops stress points, which eventually go on a fracture if you keep going.

The muscles pull on the bones. Bones are pretty hard, but not totally, they actually bend a tiny bit when the muscles pull on them..ie just like the wire but to a much lesser extent.

Quite often it is accentuated if the person has an underlying biomechanical disorder eg bow legs or knock knees or flat feet..these exaggerate the effects that everyone else gets doing the same activites, and hence make that person more prone to stress fractures or shin splints.

Sometimes you can do an operation on the tibia to realign some of the muscle/bone angles, to lessen the forces through the shin bones.

Maybe that's what he had.

 

[morgoth]

On Leon Davis:
"He did at times play injured, which in the long run probably had a big effect on Leon's ability to see out games and provide that dynamic pace that we're used to. Hopefully for Leon he'll be able to get rid of those lower-limb injuries over the pre-season."

If Leon does he is a certain starter for the 21. Does anyone have any idea what those injuries were?

I suspect his shins. He has had a lot of trouble with them over the years and it affects his ability to run. It is one of the reasons he has struggled to go into the midfield as he has been unable to put the miles in his legs on the track.

 

[Old Spice]

I watched the Grand Final again last night and Dawes really had a great game on close inspection. Provided a lot of grunt work and pressure.

On Rounds at both ends of the ground, I'd say that's just the typical multi-positional development, a la Cafeteria.

Puts enormous pressure on list when everyone can play several roles on the ground. Those players that can play a lock-down role in defence as well as moving into the midfield, or can play as a small defender and a defensive forward will hold their spots.

Unless your a key defender or forward, you want to be able to play well in at least two positions.

 

[Betterthenbencoon]

Yeah, that area I think. As I understand, shin splints is a overuse reaction, otherwise known as medial tibial stress syndrome. If that abnormal overuse 'stress' reaction goes on too long, then it evolves into a stress fracture situation, which can then go on to a full on fracture. So it's all a continuum.

Its like when you get a piece of wire, and keep bending it back and forward at the same point, it gradually develops stress points, which eventually go on a fracture if you keep going.

The muscles pull on the bones. Bones are pretty hard, but not totally, they actually bend a tiny bit when the muscles pull on them..ie just like the wire but to a much lesser extent.

Quite often it is accentuated if the person has an underlying biomechanical disorder eg bow legs or knock knees or flat feet..these exaggerate the effects that everyone else gets doing the same activites, and hence make that person more prone to stress fractures or shin splints.

Sometimes you can do an operation on the tibia to realign some of the muscle/bone angles, to lessen the forces through the shin bones.

Maybe that's what he had.

This happened to me and I can tell u it is no fun at all, I had to sit out the last 2 months of 09, and missed a flag, and it set me back in the last pre season as I wasnt able to run, and still affects my running ability now. Once u've got them, without the sufficient rest it makes life very hard and needs constant management. I have flat feet too which is probably the cause, combined with hard grounds of vafa footy.

If Leon had this, it def explains his season.

 

[Kirby]

I had shin splints badly as an 18 year old. It effected me the whole season and I basically could barely train and then played in a lot of pain.

It took a couple of months of complete rest at the end of the season for them to come good.

 

[mdc]

Definitely agree with the above re: shin splints being very painful and impossible to shake mid-season, but they do not explain the loss of pace. I also imagine that he would have missed more training sessions than he did if that was the problem.

 

[jonbe54]

Definitely agree with the above re: shin splints being very painful and impossible to shake mid-season, but they do not explain the loss of pace. I also imagine that he would have missed more training sessions than he did if that was the problem.

Very likely that.

 

[Kirby]

Definitely agree with the above re: shin splints being very painful and impossible to shake mid-season, but they do not explain the loss of pace. I also imagine that he would have missed more training sessions than he did if that was the problem.

I'm not sure it is what Davis had but shin splints do cause a loss of pace. To put it simply, it hurts like f*ck to run, the harder and faster you run the more it hurts. You also can't train as much and lose fitness, so repeat efforts become harder. It's quite debilitating really.

 

[jonbe54]

I'm not sure it is what Davis had but shin splints do cause a loss of pace. To put it simply, it hurts like f*ck to run, the harder and faster you run the more it hurts. You also can't train as much and lose fitness, so repeat efforts become harder. It's quite debilitating really.

I believe its as debilitating as Daic's stress fractures in his feet toward the latter part of his career, a major reason why he transformed into a forward. Perhaps this was partly MM's thinking in plonking Leon in the pocket.

 

[mdc]

I'm not sure it is what Davis had but shin splints do cause a loss of pace. To put it simply, it hurts like f*ck to run, the harder and faster you run the more it hurts. You also can't train as much and lose fitness, so repeat efforts become harder. It's quite debilitating really.

Kirbinator - I also suffered through shin splints for near year, so I do know the feeling. I guess maybe the experience differs for everyone, but I never felt pace was affected at all. Often it's too painful to even get up to a trot, but in the occasional moments where it subsides, you should be able to reach full pace.

Given Davis never looked like reaching the pace of 2009, even in a 20m burst, I'd suggest either he's simply lost it, or he had something more functionally restricting like a calf/knee complaint. In any case, even if he can't regain his pace, he can still be useful outside mid with a good fitness base, so fingers crossed.

 

[ozpie]

I'm so glad that all the blokes who were at risk of being delisted "decided to go home" or "decided to try another club". It really woulda been tough to have to sack them. Guess Ben kinnear and guy Richards never wanted to leave hence them remaining on the list for an eternity

 

[Ed D]

Kirbinator - I also suffered through shin splints for near year, so I do know the feeling. I guess maybe the experience differs for everyone, but I never felt pace was affected at all. Often it's too painful to even get up to a trot, but in the occasional moments where it subsides, you should be able to reach full pace.

Given Davis never looked like reaching the pace of 2009, even in a 20m burst, I'd suggest either he's simply lost it, or he had something more functionally restricting like a calf/knee complaint. In any case, even if he can't regain his pace, he can still be useful outside mid with a good fitness base, so fingers crossed.

There were a few times he put in fast sprints, going from memory against Geelong and the Bulldogs, but overall his running looked to be lost, probably from a lack of fitness and playing through injuries.