Preview Next AFC Coach For 2016 & Beyond

[TheLeftFist8]

I know the landscape has changed a little due to the fantastic foundation Walsh has laid for our club in his short but pivotal and revolutionary time with us, but we interviewed most of the prospective coaches less than a year ago.

We should know 90% of what we need to know already about them (personality, style, tactical nous, experience, strengths and weaknesses). Sure, we may need to tweak based on the how that candidate will cope with our current situation but it shouldn't be too hard to adjust the order. So Roo and Co should know where Dew, Bolton, Bassett fit into the scheme of things.

The big questions are how the 'newcomers' such as Pyke (fingers crossed!) fit into the order and how does the alternative model with a DOC change things?

 

[matty p]

After seeing today, we need Pyke.

 

[Redline]

I think we really need a ruthless coach with a hard edge. Walsh may have ended up being that coach but even under him I thought there were some unacceptable efforts.

The playing group needs to be physically and mentally tougher during a match

 

[Glenno23]

I think we really need a ruthless coach with a hard edge. Walsh may have ended up being that coach but even under him I thought there were some unacceptable efforts.

The playing group needs to be physically and mentally tougher during a match

Of course there were. He'd been in charge for 6 months and old habits can die hard

It takes more than 1 pre season to fix a club.....

 

[VSTone]

I think we really need a ruthless coach with a hard edge. Walsh may have ended up being that coach but even under him I thought there were some unacceptable efforts.

The playing group needs to be physically and mentally tougher during a match

cant turnover the list in one year... will be a heap more moved on at seasons end i reckon.

 

[Roo Lives Again]

cant turnover the list in one year... will be a heap more moved on at seasons end i reckon.

That gets said every year and yet the spuds remain.

 

[1990crow]

That gets said every year and yet the spuds remain.

Yep it's nice saying so but the spuds are playing for us week in week out

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

That gets said every year and yet the spuds remain.

Many of the spuds are still under contract

 

[Rotayjay]

Our list needs a cleanout. I have no idea why the likes of Mackay and Wright are continually given second, third and thirtieth chances at this club. Why is mediocrity rewarded and why do they have to play it so damn safe with list management and selection?

Losses like today, whilst they shouldn't be overreacted to, really highlight that mediocrity which bugs me. Our next coach must expect, and build towards, elite standards like Walshy did - not be an excuse manufacturer like Sanderson a year ago after the Brisbane match.

 

[DD#23]

That gets said every year and yet the spuds remain.

If I recall correctly we had no good draft picks for two years, slows the process down...

 

[The Karma Bus]

Article this morning suggests the Carlton job is between Bolton and Barker.

 

[Slippery Pete]

The poll results here are telling. If Worsfold doesn't want the job, the members' resounding choice is Nathan Bassett.

Will the club listen and give him another hearing?

His press conferences would also be highly entertaining.

 

[DJ75]

Is it possible to get a coach (say Pyke just as an example) and then hire Malthouse for the press conferences.

Would love to see Rucci packing it every press conference while Mick rips him apart, but not sure Malthouse is the coach we really need!

 

[MRB37]

Is it possible to get a coach (say Pyke just as an example) and then hire Malthouse for the press conferences.

Would love to see Rucci packing it every press conference while Mick rips him apart, but not sure Malthouse is the coach we really need!

Maybe Malthouse can take over for Phil Harper as the media guy.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

We won't get Luke Beverage but I want someone with him football values.

Work hard, follow team rules or you will get deroipped. Doesn't matter who you are.

Crameri and McCray have spent time in the VFL.

Treat every single player the same. Hold every single player to account and make then earn their place in the side.

 

[Roo Lives Again]

Article this morning suggests the Carlton job is between Bolton and Barker.

Why would you want to coach Carlton? They'd sack you before 3 years was up even though you had a shit list that was going to take 5 years to build. Death sentence.

 

[Roo Lives Again]

The poll results here are telling. If Worsfold doesn't want the job, the members' resounding choice is Nathan Bassett.

Will the club listen and give him another hearing?

His press conferences would also be highly entertaining.

I love the bass but that doesn't mean he's right for the job.

 

[hey shorty]

We won't get Luke Beverage but I want someone with him football values.

Work hard, follow team rules or you will get deroipped. Doesn't matter who you are.

Crameri and McCray have spent time in the VFL.

Treat every single player the same. Hold every single player to account and make then earn their place in the side.

We had a guy like McCrae dropped to the SANFL, the place went into meltdown.

I see what you're getting at though, he's a pretty no nonsense, polished performer.

 

[Roo Lives Again]

Many of the spuds are still under contract

And getting extensions .....

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Many of the spuds are still under contract

Contracted until end 2015
Scott Thompson (10+ yrs)
Patrick Dangerfield (8yrs)
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
Matthew Wright
Mitchell Grigg
Sam Kerridge
Andy Otten
James Podsiadly
Riley Knight
Kyle Hartigan (anyone clarify?)
Matt Crouch
Sam Siggins
Rory Atkins
Tom Lynch
Jack Osborn
Sam Shaw
Brodie Martin
Anthony Wilson (rookie)
Reilly O'Brien
Keenan Ramsey
Jake Kelly

Delist - Wright this year, VB next and MacKay in 2017

I would delist the players in bold. 6 senior listed players and 1 rookie.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Contracted until end 2015
Scott Thompson (10+ yrs)
Patrick Dangerfield (8yrs)
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
Matthew Wright
Mitchell Grigg
Sam Kerridge
Andy Otten
James Podsiadly
Riley Knight
Kyle Hartigan (anyone clarify?)
Matt Crouch
Sam Siggins
Rory Atkins
Tom Lynch
Jack Osborn
Sam Shaw
Brodie Martin
Anthony Wilson (rookie)
Reilly O'Brien
Keenan Ramsey
Jake Kelly

Delist - Wright this year, VB next and MacKay in 2017

I would delist the players in bold. 6 senior listed players and 1 rookie.

I like your choices except I'd keep Martin and delist Otten.

Kerridge up for trade also.

 

[Scorpus]

I like your choices except I'd keep Martin and delist Otten.

Kerridge up for trade also.

Nah Martin is not up to it and we have plenty of mediocre midfielders. We need to keep our key position and utility players on the books for now.

Contracted until end 2015
Scott Thompson (10+ yrs)
Patrick Dangerfield (8yrs)
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
Matthew Wright
Mitchell Grigg
Sam Kerridge
Andy Otten
James Podsiadly
Riley Knight
Kyle Hartigan (anyone clarify?)
Matt Crouch
Sam Siggins
Rory Atkins
Tom Lynch
Jack Osborn
Sam Shaw
Brodie Martin
Anthony Wilson (rookie)
Reilly O'Brien
Keenan Ramsey
Jake Kelly

Delist - Wright this year, VB next and MacKay in 2017

I would delist the players in bold. 6 senior listed players and 1 rookie.

Osborn is a category B rookie.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I like your choices except I'd keep Martin and delist Otten.

Kerridge up for trade also.

Realistically, both should go. Otten body won't allow him to play AFL anymore.

 

[lunacy]

Guys Don Pyle has a very balanced CV.

1. Played for West Coast (won B&F).
2. Was the west coast runner 1997-98. Walsh said his biggest spike of learning was as runner. You get to see the breakdown in messaging between coach & players.
3. Coached a team in his own right 1999-2000 (Claremont in WAFL).
4. Was a director on West Coast's board 2001-2004. This would be good to give him big picture perspective re club).
5. Midfield coach at Adelaide 2005-2006. We were a high quality side then. Coached Roo & was an assistant alongside noble (both on coaching selection panel).
6. Part time assistant back at Claremont for a few years while he worked in oil industry.
7. Assistant coach at west coast 2014-2015 responsible for strategy, stoppages and structures. Walsh said it is vital to be a midfield coach before taking on head coach role.

Bonus points:
Played with Worsfold so they might have a good relationship prompting Worsfold to stay on as Director of Coaching.

Also has an appreciation of the SANFL system.

Has worked at our club and has some affiliation with the crows.

Brother lives in Adelaide with his family.

Concerns:
Has be actually had enough AFL coaching experience? Total of 4 yrs with 7-8 yr gap.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Realistically, both should go. Otten body won't allow him to play AFL anymore.

He was poor before his latest ACL, hard to imagine he'd be any better now.

Too slow, not strong enough for his role, skills average to poor.