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[The Sloane Ranger]

I'm not sure if director of coaching has to be the title but with an expanded football department I can see a role for someone that sits above or alongside the head coach, I think the job expected of a coach will get bigger as things advance and at some point the current role will become too much.

It could allow a team to appoint somebody who is outstanding in the crucial areas but perhaps isn't the best in another area. Rather than having a coach who is just good in all areas or letting an area slip because the coach isn't an expert in that area.

More importantly it could reduce say 10 individual meeting into one between the director and head coach.

Totally agree though that if the head coach isn't up to it in game day stuff or managing a group of players during the week he's not the right person for the job.

This model is Flawed and goes against all best practice leadership framework

At the end of the day the Senior Coach needs to be held accountable for this to occur je needs to be the most Senior in the Coaching team.

The right solution Is having the right size, skills and experience below the Senior Coach so the Coach can appropriately delegate and balance workload.

We don't need another Chief above the coach we need to build the muscles under the coach and within the team

 

[Wood_Duck]

Lack of delegation to his Assistants

If Walshy was still here we were not about to give him a DOC

Call it what you want. An extra coach would have been appointed to take on workload over and above the line coaches.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

We weren't going to give him more help? You sure?

Fages and Walsh was reviewing the structure however it was focused towards building strength underneath the coach, not providing a DOC type of rile

however we also need to consider that there is a fair bit of heavy lifting up front when your new to a role and setting up a new footy program

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Call it what you want. An extra coach would have been appointed to take on workload over and above the line coaches.

No disagreeing about more resources however there is a material.difference between a DOC and a extra Assistant Coach

 

[Paladin]

Pyke is the man. Would be thrilled if he gets appointed.

 

[I_Was_There]

Call it what you want. An extra coach would have been appointed to take on workload over and above the line coaches.

No amount of coaches or any other structure would have reduced Walsh's workload. He was a workaholic and would have always found another task to do, or spend more time on an existing task.

 

[Pugsley]

I'll take what's left. Sorry, I was referring to cheesecake.

 

[Big Gazoongas]

I thought you just wrote that pathetic rant bagging basically every Person on Bigfooty for having an opinion? Not sure why you are commenting

Maybe you should have another read of what I wrote.
Bagging people for carrying on like they know better than Roo and Fages is very different from bagging people for their own opinion.

I stand by what I said, couldn't care if you think it's a pathetic rant.

 

[AFC3000]

Maybe the responsibilities of head coach will change to more of an expanded DOC role with far more responsibility given to the other coaches, and maybe a true senior assistant will over see the other assistants, I'm not sure.

That is possibly more inline with how the Hawks do things going by the stories of how Clarkson works.

Whatever the answer is the fact Port and the Eagles before them had the quality of Walsh helping the head coach shows what we are lacking. Have a look at the experience of Ross Lyon's assistants and he would be one of the most capable coaches in the AFL.

 

[mattymac]

Fages and Walsh was reviewing the structure however it was focused towards building strength underneath the coach, not providing a DOC type of rile

however we also need to consider that there is a fair bit of heavy lifting up front when your new to a role and setting up a new footy program

Yep we have to remember we didn't just ask Walsh to step in and be head coach. He came in when we were in a state of unparalleled turmoil and neglect. We asked him not only to coach but to redesign our whole football program and lay the blueprint for sustained success in coming years. The new coach will benefit greatly from Walsh's groundwork.

 

[FR0GGY]

So do we want west coast out this week or to go through and win the premiership?

 

[Pugsley]

So do we want west coast out this week or to go through and win the premiership?

Just give it to Sydney [emoji23]

 

[Troy Nation]

So do we want west coast out this week or to go through and win the premiership?

Shooting for Derby Grand Final.

 

[FR0GGY]

i was more meaning if it is pyke, do we want him out and announced next week or to get premiership experience?

 

[spenze]

So do we want west coast out this week or to go through and win the premiership?

Selfishly, probably want them out so we can move on

 

[Pugsley]

i was more meaning if it is pyke, do we want him out and announced next week or to get premiership experience?

I wanted Sumich so I can yell out to wifey go and make me a summich.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

i was more meaning if it is pyke, do we want him out and announced next week or to get premiership experience?

won't be announced til after the GF in any case

 

[Troy Nation]

won't be announced til after the GF in any case

It's still 6 days after the Grand Final before trade week starts isn't it?

 

[relapse]

Pyke is the man. Would be thrilled if he gets appointed.

Same, I would love for him to get the job.

It can't be a co-incidence that anytime Pyke is involved at a club that they are recognized as one of the most tactically astute in the league. In 05 and 06 our zoning was revolutionary (I originally credited this to Craig, but was told recently that it was Pyke's game plan) and since his return to the Eagles in 2014 their new defensive structure has been a game changer.

I definitely think that Pyke tactically is one of the smartest people in football, not sure about the rest of his coaching caliber though, but if we can keep Woosh to help him out then I would be over the moon.

 

[MRB37]

i was more meaning if it is pyke, do we want him out and announced next week or to get premiership experience?

Club said they'll announce it the week after the GF. Don't think they'll change that even if West Coast get knocked out.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Thought about this today. I believe worsfold has been virtually told for some reason he wont have the head coach position and hes exploring his options. Pyke is the man from what ive heard. It is puzzling to think though out of all the clubs why the **** you would go to essendon. $$$.. They are a rabble and wont challenge for a long time. Could end up like malthouse.

It's the Paul Roos role. Impressive figure head with no requirement for success.

 

[macca23]

Club said they'll announce it the week after the GF. Don't think they'll change that even if West Coast get knocked out.

Close but not quite correct. What Fagan actually said was that we would be announcing our new coach no later than the first week in October.

That doesn't rule out earlier if the team this coach is currently at loses this week. E.g West Coast lose we stitch up Don Pyke on paper and announce it the week before the GF

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

i was more meaning if it is pyke, do we want him out and announced next week or to get premiership experience?

Let him coach til end of season, then announce. Couple of weeks makes little difference & better he gets finals experience.

 

[Mismatched]

Let him coach til end of season, then announce. Couple of weeks makes little difference & better he gets finals experience.

Agreed, but the coach must be announced as soon prior to Free Agency/Trade Week as possible. Heading into trade week without a coach is a massive mistake, one because players will be hesitant to sign, two because the coach should be allowed a significant say in player movements, not necessarily the ultimate say, but some say.

 

[Crouch#44]

John Blakey -

Would we be happy with him?