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creamygoodness

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Well, looks like the calls for Ross to go are getting louder. I'm of the opinion that we should give him until the end of the year and then boot him and start the pre-season with a new coach and some new ideas.

With that in mind, the club needs to start looking for a new coach immediately. Who's available? Are there any highly credentialed assistants out there?

Insta-bans for anyone who mentions Sumich.
 

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Stick with Lyon to give the kids some consistency while they are going to be inconsistent

Bring in some further quality assistants in the off season - including a decent forwards coach
 
Wont happen yet, but eventually it should. Hope our club has the balls to do it. Make a phone call to Blake Caracella and don't take no for an answer. Surround the next coach with good assistants, like Brett Ratten, who's won premierships as part of Hawthorn's coaching team. People on here have a raging hard on for Lyon, but reality is hes been shit for a few years now and he simply has to go.
 
Stick with Lyon to give the kids some consistency while they are going to be inconsistent

Bring in some further quality assistants in the off season - including a decent forwards coach

What is a decent forward coach going to do if he only gets given 5 players against 6 each week?
 

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Wont happen yet, but eventually it should. Hope our club has the balls to do it. Make a phone call to Blake Caracella and don't take no for an answer. Surround the next coach with good assistants, like Brett Ratten, who's won premierships as part of Hawthorn's coaching team. People on here have a raging hard on for Lyon, but reality is hes been shit for a few years now and he simply has to go.

Yep, I reckon Caracella would be a good option. And we might have to move sooner rather than later, or someone else might get him.
 
There are no proven coaches who are uncontacted not coaching bar Paul Roos.

He may be disinterested

Caracella is unproven

The grass ain't always greener

I'll say one more thing and that Freo do lack quality assistant coaches. Rock had zero credentials coming in.
 
What is a decent forward coach going to do if he only gets given 5 players against 6 each week?

You can use that straw man if you want, but really - all I want is a forward coach that can contribute to developing our forward structures and improve what we have. Part of it is simple things - not all going up for the same high ball and spoiling each other, having the crumbers hit a pack at speed, having people roll through into space, and having forwards moving rather than static. Throw another resource into an area we're weak to further work with what we've got.
 

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You can use that straw man if you want, but really - all I want is a forward coach that can contribute to developing our forward structures and improve what we have. Part of it is simple things - not all going up for the same high ball and spoiling each other, having the crumbers hit a pack at speed, having people roll through into space, and having forwards moving rather than static. Throw another resource into an area we're weak to further work with what we've got.

A 6 man forward line would he more attacking and harder for the opposition to defend against.

It's easier for the forwards to draw out the defenders for our key forwards to lead into space on the rebound.

Far from strawman
 
There are no proven coaches who are uncontacted not coaching bar Paul Roos.

He may be disinterested

Caracella is unproven

The grass ain't always greener

I'll say one more thing and that Freo do lack quality assistant coaches. Rock had zero credentials coming in.
Isn't every coach unproven until they're given a chance? Once upon a time Ross Lyon was unproven. Alastair Clarkson, Leigh Matthews etc, everyone is unproven until you give them a chance. The whole 'no way is out there' theory is ridiculously pathetic and it will take us backwards.
 
Caracella I agree on. Ratten is another that I wouldn’t be against giving another opportunity.

By bringing in a new coach, it also gives us a chance of getting a few good assistants on board. No assistant coach with the desire to develop into a senior coach would want to work under Ross.
 
Why is Caracella so highly rated? Just because he was an assistant at last year's premiers?
Because everywhere he goes they win a flag!
played for Essendon won a flag
played for Brisbane won a flag
assistant coach at Geelong and Richmond they won
 
Isn't every coach unproven until they're given a chance? Once upon a time Ross Lyon was unproven. Alastair Clarkson, Leigh Matthews etc, everyone is unproven until you give them a chance. The whole 'no way is out there' theory is ridiculously pathetic and it will take us backwards.

I never said no one is out there. I mentioned proven AFL coaches first. I then said Caracella is unproven but what I didn't say is that he wouldn't do a better job than Ross.
 

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