thylacine60
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haven't seen this come up for a year or two, fair question though - a handful of suburbs seems a bit skinny compared to some other clubs
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'Every other' club in Victoria has a TAC zone, but we have one of the key ones for metropolitan Melbourne. Remember, this academy is for first-generation Australians and Indigenous kids.why is our Next Generation Academy such a small zone? Why do we not have a country area like every other club?
It's because the WA elite indigenous talent from the Perth Metro Area is already going to the AFL and it's not the intention of the NGA system to lock them in to WA teams at a discount.why theapartheidseparation?
We do, but our zone is exclusively that of the Northern Knights in the TAC (ie. the Northern Football League). That's how we have first rights on Ethan Penrith and the Wild brothers. That being said, the indigenous population in each state is somewhat different as well.Does Carlton have access to indigenous players in the Melbourne metro area under the NGA academy system?
The WA clubs don't have access to indigenous talent within the Perth Metro Area.
I'd push for that to be rookie draft only (or 5th round onwards/Cat B if they abolish the rookie draft).It's because the WA elite indigenous talent from the Perth Metro Area is already going to the AFL and it's not the intention of the NGA system to lock them in to WA teams at a discount.
It has created a storm over here though because community elders aren't happy that their young people are excluded from a system that keeps them on track and engaged with society because of a line on the map.
Fremantle and West Coast have suggested a solution, that would be for every indigenous young player in WA to be in the NGA system but the WA sides won't have bid matching rights for the players if they are bid on before #30. Which will protect the AFL from the Eagles and Dockers adding Lance Franklin to their side every year, which is the fear, but the cost of the second round pick value player being lost is worth it to engage even more young footballers - which is the intention of the NGA system.
The Tiwi Islands has a (mostly indigenous) population of 3,000, while all of NT has an indigenous population of about 62,000.I would think Essendons inner city zone is similar to ours, but then they get the Tiwi Islands and heaps of the NT.
Similar to the Pies
North get a big inner city chunk and Tas
Look at how much the Hawks have been given too
With young guys starting to get drafted through this system, our tiny slice of the pie has all the hallmarks of us being disadvantaged for years to come
Do we have the rights to Penrith given we didn’t draft him last year?
Any chance we take Brazier as a rookie or are we more likely to invite him to join the Northern Blues in 2019, as we did with Penrith this year? Arr0w
We have first right of refusal for the first time they are bid on, which hasn't happened yet.Do we have the rights to Penrith given we didn’t draft him last year?
Any chance we take Brazier as a rookie or are we more likely to invite him to join the Northern Blues in 2019, as we did with Penrith this year? Arr0w
They're category B rookies if pre-listed, so it doesn't impact the rookie draft beyond their name being read out.I doubt we will add Brazier or Penrith, think there are better options that will be available in the rookie draft.
If you look at our phantom draft, not that many recycled players were selected and I believe many clubs will select these guys late in the draft, leaving some interesting prospects for the rookie draft
haven't seen this come up for a year or two, fair question though - a handful of suburbs seems a bit skinny compared to some other clubs
Fremantle and West Coast have suggested a solution, that would be for every indigenous young player in WA to be in the NGA system but the WA sides won't have bid matching rights for the players if they are bid on before #30
I don't know what the response is, if there is one officially but that proposal would mean none of the NGA players out of WA could have matched bids inside pick #30. Whether they are metro or waaaaaaay deep country. It is giving up a substantial list management tool to keep more WA indigenous talent engaged with football, so I think it's worth it.Whats the response to this? I would still be sceptical with this arrangement as its easily manipulated to appear players aren't as developed as they are but its a good starting point.
Oh! I misread this before.I don't know what the response is, if there is one officially but that proposal would mean none of the NGA players out of WA could have matched bids inside pick #30. Whether they are metro or waaaaaaay deep country. It is giving up a substantial list management tool to keep more WA indigenous talent engaged with football, so I think it's worth it.
Ok.Sorry guys I am little confused as to how our NGA actually works.
İs it an actual academy with resources, training, coaching, mentoring etc
Does our NGA actually have a role in developing these young kids into footballers?
And if it does, how much does it have in the way of resources?
How does that compare to, let's say, Sydney's academy?
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Thanks.Ok.
Yes.
Yes.
Self-resourced, with the reward being the draft access.
The same.
Thanks.
So, would pouring more money into it yield better results?
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I don't know what we're investing compared to other clubs, but it is interesting to see how much value the Dogs and Collingwood are getting out of their systems. That being said, the issue may lie with Nothern's talent ID rather than our own, as they've had some problems for a while.Thanks.
So, would pouring more money into it yield better results?
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The challenge will be making sure enough of the eligible youngsters in the region are playing Aussie Rules.This is our region http://nthknights.com.au/our-region/
And if you look at the demographics changes at council of Whittlesea, Darebin, Banyule, Shire of Nillumbik and Yarra will see the region work for us.
We even got the suburb Collingwood under our jurisdiction.
But you know - its a good little spot in Victoria for the future.
Any report on the match or tidbits to get exited about?