Opinion Non-Crows AFL 12: It's the confectionery with 1000 uses

[Kane McGoodwin]

It's not a result. You don't win the flag in round 21.

Yeah, but we are now in pole position.

But keep being negative if you must...

 

[Moonwatcher]

At worst, 3rd, likely is a strong term whilst top 8 teams are playing each other.

I have said before that this is the hardest finals series to predict because you have the top 8 teams a game or two apart, anyone can win this one.

His question was with respect to only winning 2 of the remaining 3 games.

 

[Soggy2112]

Plenty? Hardly.

2005 Sydney lost their first final to West Coast, came from 5 goals down against Geelong in a Semi, then beat St Kilda in an away Prelim.

2018 West Coast beat Collingwood twice, and on the MCG in a Grand Final after conceding the first 5 goals.

Easy flags don't exist.

Yes, but teams have relied on other clubs taking care of their tough opponents for them.

If Brisbane hadve dropped to fifth that would have increased our chances greatly.

 

[Moonwatcher]

In Port we trust tomorrow. They're not too bad at picking off the Cats.

 

[MrBarry]

Back from my ban, **** me few bottle jobs in here pearl clutching because Brisbane won....

 

[BRL121]

Yeah, but we are now in pole position.

But keep being negative if you must...

I'm not being negative. My interest now is in maximising our chance of top two and two home finals.
Had Collingwood have won, we would paradoxically have been in a better "pole position" to achieve that than we are now.

Now, it is even more vital to beat Collingwood to achieve that.

 

[Soggy2112]

With all the gestures and language you can seemingly direct towards an umpire, why have we drawn the line at pointing to the screen as the one thing you can’t do?

 

[MrBarry]

Both Brisbane and Collingwood have a bloody hard run in, we have two give me games. Collingwood need to play us and hawks and Brisbane play freo away and hawthorn who will throw the kitchen sink at them to win.

 

[pjcrows]

Yes, but teams have relied on other clubs taking care of their tough opponents for them.

If Brisbane hadve dropped to fifth that would have increased our chances greatly.

I reckon Sydney fans felt a bit relieved when Brisbane beat Geelong in last year's Prelim as it meant they wouldn't have to face the Cats again...

 

[Mattrox]

I'd be upset if a reporter doorstopped one of our players like that. I'm with Ginnavan this time. Give him a break.

I'd be more upset with our player being a flog and not taking responsibility for his own actions.

 

[MrBarry]

Thought Collingwood looked old and slow tonight tbh. Take Daicos out and they don't have pure weapons like we do across the board.

Very workmanlike forward line.

 

[Moonwatcher]

We've had a boring few weeks but it looks like it will really heat up in the last 3 weeks.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We've had a boring few weeks but it looks like it will really heat up in the last 3 weeks.

Last 2 nights have been far from boring!

But there have been too many boring games this year, particularly in prime time.

 

[ABAB]

Plenty? Hardly.

2005 Sydney lost their first final to West Coast, came from 5 goals down against Geelong in a Semi, then beat St Kilda in an away Prelim.

2018 West Coast beat Collingwood twice, and on the MCG in a Grand Final after conceding the first 5 goals.

Easy flags don't exist.

Collingwood beat Richmond in the PF who was unbeatable that season with the American playing the game of multiple life so West Coast didn't have to face them in the Grand Final. We know it takes luck to win the premiership, lets hope luck is with us this year.

 

[Mattrox]

What do you reckon we’ve been doing for the last few years?

Arguing about Nicks and our list management team.

 

[Soggy2112]

Collingwood beat Richmond in the PF who was unbeatable that season with the American playing the game of multiple life so West Coast didn't have to face them in the Grand Final. We know it takes luck to win the premiership, lets hope luck is with us this year.

2019 the Giants had a great first half in the PF and then clung on, however were cooked and barely offered a whimper in the GF. The Pies would have been a much stiffer test for Richmond.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Arguing about Nicks and our list management team.

And what else?

 

[_SirStealthy01]

2013 Freo took down Geelong at GMHBA Stadium in the first week of finals and went all the way but lost

 

[PCORF]

Collingwood beat Richmond in the PF who was unbeatable that season with the American playing the game of multiple life so West Coast didn't have to face them in the Grand Final. We know it takes luck to win the premiership, lets hope luck is with us this year.

We choked in 1993 and possibly 2005QF, certainly 2009SF right in front of me, we had luck in 1997 (Leigh Colbert marked = disallowed, Libba goaled = disallowed), we were unlucky in 2012.

If we finish top we might be facing Brisbane in the QF. The way the Lions played tonight was amazing. The last 3 premiers and us in the top 4, they know what it takes to win. It is a massive challenge, but if we played like we did in the final minutes last night we are a chance.

Top 4 of the ladder could be like this.

1. Adelaide (depends on %)
2. Geelong (depends on %)
3. Collingwood (depends on %)
4. Brisbane

 

[Mattrox]

Likely 3rd if we win 2 and 1st if we win 3.

Right now clearly top 2 is preferable.

But at the beginning of the season I was offered 3rd on the ladder, with the double chance, I"d have yelled, "Start the Car!"

 

[Mattrox]

I'm not being negative. My interest now is in maximising our chance of top two and two home finals.
Had Collingwood have won, we would paradoxically have been in a better "pole position" to achieve that than we are now.

Now, it is even more vital to beat Collingwood to achieve that.

Brisbane won from 5th last year.

Teams have to create their own destiny.

 

[BRL121]

Brisbane won from 5th last year.

Teams have to create their own destiny.

I don't see the relevance.

 

[spenze]

His question was with respect to only winning 2 of the remaining 3 games.

Yep

His question also didn't state that every other team won their games

 

[Peter Doherty]

Top 9 record against each other now sits as this,

Brisbane 7-4
Geelong 6-4
Freo 6-2
Adelaide 5-5
Collingwood 5-5
GC 5-5
GWS 5-5
Hawthorn 3-6
Bulldogs 2-8

 

[MrBarry]

Our record against Brisbane in the last few years is extremely good. Isn't it 2 wins a draw and 2 losses at the gabba?