You might want to re-think your example. Port sold away games to China, and still expected to play 11 games at home (plus an away Showdown)...
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I thought about that one and almost didn't include the example but I think it can go either way.
Maybe it helps my case, sort of? Because the opposition got paid and that's what I'm suggesting.
Port didn't sell a home game to China, they convinced other teams to sell theirs while Port played as the away team.
I don't think Gold Coast would of worried about not having the extra home game against Port but the Saints still played 16 games in Victoria in 2019.
I think also special China allowances were made there, I'm not sure the AFL would let us buy a Saints home game and play it at Noarlunga or something but I might be wrong haha we should try!
It's just always been one of those things that's probably annoyed me more than anyone else really cares about it (which is why I can't help but go on about it), especially when Tasmania was a two flight trip, or what are we doing here, flying to Melbourne and then getting a bus to Ballarat? That's almost as long as the flight.
And the average Bulldogs supporter will barely notice they are missing a home game because they'll likely be allocated a ticket to another game at a fairly neutral MCG where capacity is not an issue.
There's really no way for non-Victorian clubs to sell games and still provide 11 game memberships in their home city.
Gold Coast have sold games to the NT and now only get 8 games at home, might work for them (or GWS) but probably not for anyone else.
Its disingenuous to say "it's never been a racist thing". It's been a common racist epithet since the 1930s. I grew up in small town Australia and heard it in that context often. Words and phrases take on different meanings over time. Where I live it's a dog whistle to white supremacists and most people take it in a racial context, so it's rarely used any more. If it's 100% acceptable in Australia in any context that surprises me.
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He has nothing to lose and reminds of my last few years before retirement.
The younger staff in our office wanted issues raised but were afraid of the consequences so I offered to raise concerns on their behalf, thereby senior management not aware of who was actually concerned. Was happy to take it on as I had nothing to lose as I was going to always retire in a couple of years and any performance management plan had a minimum timeline of 12 months so they just couldn’t fire me immediately. Worked a treat and got up the noses of senior management.
He has nothing to lose and reminds of my last few years before retirement.
The younger staff in our office wanted issues raised but were afraid of the consequences so I offered to raise concerns on their behalf, thereby senior management not aware of who was actually concerned. Was happy to take it on as I had nothing to lose as I was going to always retire in a couple of years and any performance management plan had a minimum timeline of 12 months so they just couldn’t fire me immediately. Worked a treat and got up the noses of senior management.
If the player holds pay the free. They shouldn't need a warning.
"Big bucks"? Don't think so
I know the 50m dissent rule is a howler and everyone knows isnt the way to go BUT there is no question that treatment of young kids umpiring other young kids is a huge problem.
The behaviours toward 15-18 kids by grown adults - parents - is often diabolical. Of course this passes down to the players who spend large chunks of games screaming at the umpire.
I’m not here to say I know the answers but I am here to say it’s very definitely a problem that I can see the AFL trying to lead on. I suppose they feel if they have the stars modelling better behaviour it will trickle down.
I know of a few young men who thought umpiring U10 and below was an easy way to make some part time cash. One season and they never go back. It’s bad
The behaviours toward 15-18 kids by grown adults - parents - is often diabolical. Of course this passes down to the players who spend large chunks of games screaming at the umpire.
I’m not here to say I know the answers but I am here to say it’s very definitely a problem that I can see the AFL trying to lead on. I suppose they feel if they have the stars modelling better behaviour it will trickle down.
I know of a few young men who thought umpiring U10 and below was an easy way to make some part time cash. One season and they never go back. It’s bad
This is exactly the issue - there's a problem with umpire treatment at lower levels, so the AFL impose rules at the elite level in the hope that they will "trickle down" to lower levels without doing ANYTHING to address the reasons why umpire treatment at lower levels is poor (a lot of which is societal anyway).
I have a strong belief it’s the extent to which sport has become professional and the pressure parents put on little kids to get themselves on to the established pathways.
No longer is a lot of sport just about having fun. It’s all pressure to perform at every level to get to the next level. There’s an intensity that goes with that from parents and if anything goes wrong they blame coaches - umpires - whoever they can. They invest themselves into the kids performance and become feral during games.
There's always been professional sport and parental pressure.
The issues around abuse/violence/anger in the community now are broad social issues that the AFL can't fix.
I would respectfully disagree that there’s always been pro sport in our footy. It’s not that long ago that it was semi pro at best. SANFL didn’t have a lot of $$$, certainly not a career option as it is now.
Cricket the same. Really only in the last 30 years that AFL has developed into a career where lots of money at stake. Parents think their kid could be a star on TV. Much more pressure now.
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I've umpired a lot of junior sports and feel that the difference with football is there is a chance a parent's child gets hurt during the game.
That ups the ante. Everyone is slightly more on edge when there's a chance their child will get hurt.
There can be flare ups at any sport of course, non-contact and contact alike, but the general vibe of a "typical" game of football includes more yelling at the umpire than other sports imho
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Yes I agree that’s an excellent point
And I’ll relate a personal experience- was at a junior game last year to watch one of the grands play - I thought the 2 boys umpiring did a damned good job, so after the game when they were walking away I went after them to give them a compliment.
As I got close 2 blokes got out of nearby car and got between us. It was the 2 Dads. I said it was ok just wanted to compliment them and encourage them to keep going.
Sad that Dads said they are basically there as security. That’s where we are at though
As I got close 2 blokes got out of nearby car and got between us. It was the 2 Dads. I said it was ok just wanted to compliment them and encourage them to keep going.
Sad that Dads said they are basically there as security. That’s where we are at though
Don’t they get 7-8k per game?If the player holds pay the free. They shouldn't need a warning.
"Big bucks"? Don't think so
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there is a article from 2012 saying field umpires could earn up to $150k per year by 2016, id assume that has changed since
The word "spade"? Yes. The phrase "call a spade a spade"? That predates the "spade" epithet by a long time - in fact, it - or a version of it - dates back much longer.
Are you saying that you've heard people use the phrase "call a spade a spade" as a racist epithet? I suppose some might, but that doesn't mean it's inherently a racist saying, or that someone who uses it in its normal meaning is engaging in "racist dogwhistling". I think it's deliberate misappropriation of an innocent phrase.
Well, where I live, it's just a saying that has no racist connotations whatsoever.
If I say "I like the way he talks, he calls a spade a spade" I am not going to apologise to someone who thinks that's an inherently racist term. I'm not responsible for other people who choose to misappropriate the phrase outside its original meaning.
This is true enough. I just don't think "call a spade a spade" has - or should have - reached that point. These "different meanings" are often not the result of a genuine societal shift in language, they are often imposed by people who want to seek out offence where none is intended, and to sanitise language beyond any reasonable level.
Now, as another example - I like "black humour" or "dark humour". I admit that I will sometimes choose to use "dark" rather than "black" because I know some people will (wilfully) misunderstand. But "black humour" is still not a racist term.
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Is Aliir Aliir the reason Port will continue to fail?
I know he was an All Australian defender but hear me out.
Aliir Aliir was at his best when Port's midfield were able to flat track bully teams, forcing them wide and to blind kick down the line allowing Aliir an easy run and jump intercept mark. But....without doubt I can see why Sydney traded him. He is horrible, one on one, one of the worst in Ports 22. So much so, I think he is a weak link. The Western Bulldogs didn't have to complete a rocket science degree to figure out a way through Ports defence in that Preliminary final. They identified Aliir as a massive defensive one on one weakness and resolved to kick it to his man as much as possible. Yes he had injuries, but Carlton exposed him badly again on the weekend and honestly, unless he changes position out of defence, switch forward maybe, I think he will fade into a depth player pretty quick. Port don't have the midfield dominance anymore which means teams will get a better run at moving it forward which will expose Aliir.
I know he was an All Australian defender but hear me out.
Aliir Aliir was at his best when Port's midfield were able to flat track bully teams, forcing them wide and to blind kick down the line allowing Aliir an easy run and jump intercept mark. But....without doubt I can see why Sydney traded him. He is horrible, one on one, one of the worst in Ports 22. So much so, I think he is a weak link. The Western Bulldogs didn't have to complete a rocket science degree to figure out a way through Ports defence in that Preliminary final. They identified Aliir as a massive defensive one on one weakness and resolved to kick it to his man as much as possible. Yes he had injuries, but Carlton exposed him badly again on the weekend and honestly, unless he changes position out of defence, switch forward maybe, I think he will fade into a depth player pretty quick. Port don't have the midfield dominance anymore which means teams will get a better run at moving it forward which will expose Aliir.
Well done. I figure if you’re going to go you try to leave a workplace better, if that means putting your head on the line then good. Hopefully you walk into the next job where somebody has done the same beforehand.
Too many good people leave because of bad people, if the good people actually banded together and call out the toxic elements then we’d all be better off.
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