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Its an absolute campaigner of a drug. Cheapest of the narcotics and the most addictive.

Ill admit to trying it once (one point), but after seeing first hand what it can do to a person and the life of their loved ones it became apparent very quickly how extremely dangerous it can be and it was not a path i was going down even for a bit of fun every now and then.

I had a mates brother burn down his own house with his wife and kids inside it because she refused to give him money for a fix late one night, luckily for all they escaped in time, their house didn't make it though. His wife has vowed to never speak to him again or let him see his kids (absolutely fair enough) and he is in Barwon Prison for another 8 years yet. He became an addict in just 3 months time after he started using it, it fries your brain so quickly, you go from its just a '$50 weekend for a bit of fun' habit to a '$700 a week because i need to make me feel normal' junkie addict in the blink of an eye.

Ive been and seen him a couple of times with my mate at Barwon Prison, he is understandably a complete wreck, he has been in prison for 2 years now and the realisation of what he has done to his life has sunk in over the past 6 months (as the drugs have worn off). He has nothing to look forward to even when he is released in 8 years time. I dont think he even knows how to smile anymore, let alone laugh, he looks like walking death, the cheeky smile and good looks he once had are long gone. He was a gun footballer, represented the Falcons at U18 level, had a gorgeous wife and 2 kids, a manager at his work and had only had his own house built 1 year before all this happened, now, as his brother thinks and has said to me, he is looking for any opportunity to neck himself whilst inside or at a worst case scenario as he see's it, he will do the job when he's a free man in 8 years. Hopefully he can find a purpose to live in between now and then, but geez, i think i would feel exactly the same if i was in his shoes.

Its a runaway freight train people, dont ever jump aboard it.
 
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Scary shit. And it's ****ing bikies pushing it down kids necks to get them hooked. I'd shoot the campaigners if I was boss for a day. Scum of the earth.
 

Ill admit to trying it once (one point), but after seeing first hand what it can do to a person and the life of their loved ones it became apparent very quickly how extremely dangerous it can be and it was not a path i was going down even for a bit of fun every now and then.

I don't know how people even try this shit once, It's been ruining peoples live for years, how people want to put themselves at risk to this is just insane.
 
I tried it. It's a shit drug. Dunno why people even go back to it after the first time. It's completely wiped towns in the mid west US states off the map. Literally everyone in the town is high or strung out.
 

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Scary shit. And it's ******* bikies pushing it down kids necks to get them hooked. I'd shoot the campaigners if I was boss for a day. Scum of the earth.

Its not just the bikies, you would probably be surprised to know what they would do to someone if they found out a bloke they sold it to is selling it to kids. Im not excusing them as part of the issue, i just dont see them as the sole offender.

Every countries drug king pins are importing it to Australia because of the high street value here, they are more than happy to take the risk of losing a few packages to customs because they are still making an absolute killing on it. Chef's (joe citizen) are now making it here in their backyard tool sheds to make an extra dollar as well because as the addicts grow so does the demand. There is greed on every level.

Its a no quick fix, that's for sure, unfortunately this won't even be close to the last tragedy involving ice. Perhaps out of this horrific story some people will stop and think before having a hit of ice just because their mates are doing it, here's hoping that some lives have actually been saved and spared today.
 
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I tried it. It's a shit drug. Dunno why people even go back to it after the first time. It's completely wiped towns in the mid west US states off the map. Literally everyone in the town is high or strung out.

Agree, did nothing special for me either, my mates brothers incident only drove home the facts to me even more. tried it once but never will again.

Its the price that makes it attractive to people, much more affordable (or so they think starting out) than speed or coke and much easier to get your hands on than pills these days.
 
Yet people push the "decriminalise all drugs, drug users do no harm"

heck that sheet

Drugs ruin lives, society, towns, families, countries

Football is going to feel weird for the rest of the year, this round and in particular

Do the guys who feel bad about any earlier Walsh memes, don't

Seriously, no one could predict that
 
I don't know how people even try this shit once, It's been ruining peoples live for years, how people want to put themselves at risk to this is just insane.

Personally speaking, some friends of mine had bought some and sold it to me (only the first or second time for them as well), i was fairly drunk when i bought it that night (about 3 years ago) . We had ****ed around a bit on the party scene growing up and tried a bit of everything, none of us even bother these days.

Its a dangerous game though, you're right, you never know how something will effect you, be it short term or long term. I actually made it through the whole peer pressure part at school (didn't even smoke weed) and didnt try anything until i was around 23. It was purely a weekend thing with my group of mates. Im not going to lie, some of my best nights out have been on narcotics though.

Im older now, i rarely go out-out, the local pub isn't exactly the scene to be reaquinting myself with the times from my youth and honestly i have better things to do with my money, lol, I'm such a wise owl nowadays. I was raised well by my parents and they would have an absolute fit if they knew i ever took any drug at any stage in my life, but the saying, boys will be boys still rings true today as it did when i was growing up, unfortunately ice has changed the game and its now a whole lot more dangerous than it was 10 years ago.
 
Personally speaking, some friends of mine had bought some and sold it to me (only the first or second time for them as well), i was fairly drunk when i bought it that night (about 3 years ago) . We had stuffed around a bit on the party scene growing up and tried a bit of everything, none of us even bother these days.

Its a dangerous game though, you're right, you never know how something will effect you, be it short term or long term. I actually made it through the whole peer pressure part at school (didn't even smoke weed) and dint try anything until i was around 23. It was purely a weekend thing with my group of mates. Im not going to lie, some of my best nights out have been on narcotics though.

Im older now, i rarely go out-out, the local pub isn't exactly the scene to reaquinting myself with the times from my youth and honestly i have better things to do with my money, lol, I'm such a wise owl nowadays. I was raised well by my parents and they would have an absolute fit if they knew i ever took any drug at any stage in my life, but the saying, boys will be boys still rings true today as it did when i was growing up, unfortunately ice has changed the game and its now a whole lot more dangerous than it was 10 years ago.
you sound like me lol, friends offered it to me too but I knocked it back just because I know how bad it is. Didn't smoke week until I was in Amsterdam when I was 23. I've taken other stuff when I was younger but things like Ice, Heroine and a few others I just couldn't ever bring myself to going near it.
 
you sound like me lol, friends offered it to me too but I knocked it back just because I know how bad it is. Didn't smoke week until I was in Amsterdam when I was 23. I've taken other stuff when I was younger but things like Ice, Heroine and a few others I just couldn't ever bring myself to going near it.

Yea, I've never used a needle in my life, never tried heroine and i didn't like ice or weed.

My friends and i were all the same, we all liked our uppers but none of us ever became pin cushion. I think we were all of a similar mind, party hard (not every single weekend, maybe once every two months or something) but dont let it effect your weekdays, be it at Work or Uni.
 

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Saying on SEN the round will go ahead except for the adelaide geelong game. These clubs will not play and each receive 2 premiership points
While i agree its the right thing to do , i wonder how both the clubs will feel if they miss the finals by 2 pts ...Maybe the AFL should scrap the 3 week round and have a weekend off before the finals start .
 
Yet people push the "decriminalise all drugs, drug users do no harm"

heck that sheet

Drugs ruin lives, society, towns, families, countries

Football is going to feel weird for the rest of the year, this round and in particular

Do the guys who feel bad about any earlier Walsh memes, don't

Seriously, no one could predict that
Some drugs do. Should we ban alcohol then?
 
"They're the best using of the ball team." Cameron Ling, ladies and gentlemen

Bruce is on pace to break his own record of use of the word "clever", again. Again. Again and again.
 
Bruce is on pace to break his own record of use of the word "clever", again. Again. Again and again.
I especially like the speculative kick off the ground from the centre square that he only just got his foot to by the grace of Allah. "Cleeeevveeerrr"
 

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Haven't posted today. Bit speechless still, doesn't seem real yet. Very haunting hearing the normally jovial Harford and Kingy break the news this morning on sen. Think I just swore in disbelief for like 5 mins with my girlfriend in the passenger seat worried I was going to crash the car. It's so utterly ****ed up. I remember paying out on the bloke on this forum after his "leaving the field on a stretcher comment" and thinking he was just a meathead neeld clone, then after the shocking news this morning you hear about the character and depth of the man. His eloquent description of a van gough painting and the frustration of a loss is one of the most beautiful things iv ever heard, and in a post match press conference of all places! What's even weirder is I feel the way footy is now everyone will move on from this chapter very quickly and Phil will be consigned to the history books as a tragic character. It's deeply saddening and I'm gutted for his family and the AFC in particular.
 
Shown a few replays of that Cloke boot to the face, starts to look deliberate. Seemed to be looking at him when he did it.
 
Don't really wish to get into it, but I'm not sure what banning alcohol has to do with decriminalising drink driving. My point was that some drugs 'wreck lives', but mostly it's people not being able to stop themselves taking those drugs in excessive amounts that really wrecks lives, like alcohol. But alcohol, which probably 'wrecks' more lives than ice per year worldwide is completely legal.

Now I'm not saying ban alcohol. I love a drink, not to mention other substances, but I don't agree with blanket 'war on drugs' bans for the simple reason that they don't work. It's proven that it doesn't work every day
 
Shown a few replays of that Cloke boot to the face, starts to look deliberate. Seemed to be looking at him when he did it.

In real time it looked accidental and I personally think real time is the best judge

Aside from kicking 7 straight against us, is $5 bill fast enough to make that a deliberate kick?

I think he thought the ball was still up in the air
 
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