Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XIII

[faible]

It was something taught to me growing up and in all clubs I saw, I'd imagine many AFL players know this technique.

It's one thing to know it; it's another to actually put it in to practice with all the goings-on around them.

How many players would be staring directly at old mate in the 5th row with the Essendon jacket and cap on trying to hit them square in the forehead as they're kicking?

More likely they're worried about what's going on, trying to work out the score, what man / position they need to get to, and so on...

Sometimes the basics get lost amongst the noise.

 

[DapperDon]

So Jeff believes that Tasmania having a standalone team would be worse for tourism than having the Hawks stay as their "have our shitty games" team.

Someone worried they might have to play their games against interstate teams in Melbourne and getting North size crowds me thinks

Typical Hawthorn pigheadedness

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

It's one thing to know it; it's another to actually put it in to practice with all the goings-on around them.

How many players would be staring directly at old mate in the 5th row with the Essendon jacket and cap on trying to hit them square in the forehead as they're kicking?

More likely they're worried about what's going on, trying to work out the score, what man / position they need to get to, and so on...

Sometimes the basics get lost amongst the noise.

That's another matter altogether and simply some players don't handle pressure or practice their method enough for it to become habit under pressure. But the technique itself would be well known.

 

[Zach Package]

Michael Johnson and Danyle Pearce have had their retirements prematurely announced by Rosscoe at a press conference

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Michael Johnson and Danyle Pearce have had their retirements prematurely announced by Rosscoe at a press conference

He did the same with Baker and Gardiner.

 

[TheBrightSide]

So I put my tips in this morning, then straight after read that Bontempelli had emergency surgery for his appendix. Will miss 3 weeks.
I tipped the Bulldogs, now it’s too late to change.
Thanks a lot Mr selfish.

 

[TheGrizz]

Michael Johnson and Danyle Pearce have had their retirements prematurely announced by Rosscoe at a press conference

GCS should throw a luke hodge type offer out to Johnson.

Could use him as an older, experienced out there to straighten up their spine.

 

[Beerfish]

GCS should throw a luke hodge type offer out to Johnson.

Could use him as an older, experienced out there to straighten up their spine.

lol Johnson is cooked in every sense of the word. Absolute nutjob too. Was genuinely surprised he wasn't retired last year.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

lol Johnson is cooked in every sense of the word. Absolute nutjob too. Was genuinely surprised he wasn't retired last year.

Not sure he's exactly a leader either in the way Hodge is, except off field I guess.

 

[Kong]

Can you add an excerpt please?


Some of those pictures are horrific. They make an interesting point, I guess people who are prone to violence are more likely to do so when emotions are high and they’re tanked, which usually goes hand in hand with watching sport. It’s not difficult to believe despite what some commenters they referred to in the article may say.

Do you need an excerpt due to referencing agreements? No problem.

Agree with your points, too.

Ban sport.

Ban thugs from society.

 

[Beerfish]

Ban thugs from society.

I'd be fine with both.

 

[Lore]

Do you need an exert due to referencing agreements? No problem.

Link dumping is frowned upon, yeah. Needs some sort of context, either a comment or paraphrasing or a quote so readers know what the article is about. Otherwise it could be anything, and if it's one of those paywalled articles then then link is nearly useless

 

[doug85]

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...p/news-story/56737284a00bf789d0906b8db55b6391

A good reminder to keep perspective with sport. Not implying anyone here assaults their loved ones.

I don’t think people realise just how common domestic violence is. It’s an epidemic in Australian society (and English by the sounds of it).

I took a course on domestic violence through work and was shocked by the levels of domestic violence against both men and women. Something needs to be done about it, but I don’t know what that is

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Kennet worried that if there is a Tasmania team in the future that the Tassie Hawk fans will jump ship haha

 

[doug85]

Kennet worried that if there is a Tasmania team in the future that the Tassie Hawk fans will jump ship haha

Actually that’s probably true.

 

[CBombers17]

If they keep diluting the talent pool with teams I'll get a game soon.

 

[Runk]

Watching the Front Bar. My love for Simon Madden knows no bounds. What a bloke.

 

[Kong]

I don’t think people realise just how common domestic violence is. It’s an epidemic in Australian society (and English by the sounds of it).

I took a course on domestic violence through work and was shocked by the levels of domestic violence against both men and women. Something needs to be done about it, but I don’t know what that is

Yeah likewise, I've had a bit to do with it through work.

The statistics are horrifying. 1 in 3 women suffering physical or sexual violence says it's not just the occasional scumbag.

https://www.whiteribbon.org.au/unde...-violence-women/domestic-violence-statistics/

 

[Barry Roundhouse]

Yeah likewise, I've had a bit to do with it through work.

The statistics are horrifying. 1 in 3 women suffering physical or sexual violence says it's not just the occasional scumbag.

https://www.whiteribbon.org.au/unde...-violence-women/domestic-violence-statistics/

Not entirely true. The 1 in 3 number has some pretty big liberties taken to get there.

17% of women have experienced physical or sexual violence in there lifetime from a current or former partner. Physical or sexual violence also include the threat of (which is horrible). 17% is entirely too high, but that's literally one of the first graphics you see when you click on the personal safety survey white ribbon link as their source. The men's rights activists do the same thing with there campaign of 1 in 4. For men its 6%.

Family violence/domestic violence (as all encompassing terms) include things like controlling behaviour. So if your partner has ever said 'i don't want you hanging out with that person' or 'you can't go that place you want to'; you are a victim of family violence.

This is not to diminish the severity of domestic violence, but stats can be misleading. Ive spoken to people that know that 1 in 3 stat and they assume 33% of australian women have been physically beaten by a partner, which just isn't true.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Not entirely true. The 1 in 3 number has some pretty big liberties taken to get there.

17% of women have experienced physical or sexual violence in there lifetime from a current or former partner. Physical or sexual violence also include the threat of (which is horrible). 17% is entirely too high, but that's literally one of the first graphics you see when you click on the personal safety survey white ribbon link as their source. The men's rights activists do the same thing with there campaign of 1 in 4. For men its 6%.

Family violence/domestic violence (as all encompassing terms) include things like controlling behaviour. So if your partner has ever said 'i don't want you hanging out with that person' or 'you can't go that place you want to'; you are a victim of family violence.

This is not to diminish the severity of domestic violence, but stats can be misleading. Ive spoken to people that know that 1 in 3 stat and they assume 33% of australian women have been physically beaten by a partner, which just isn't true.

What a lot of people don’t realise is that to be a victim of family violence in Victoria covers much more than physical/sexual, it’s interesting you’re aware.

In addition to what you’ve covered, financial abuse is also included in the statistics (and it should be).

All these forms of abuse can have long terms effects on people and should be included in the act to allow for support and legal action.

However the use of the word violence as an umbrella term lends itself to be misleading.

 

[faible]

Not entirely true. The 1 in 3 number has some pretty big liberties taken to get there.

17% of women have experienced physical or sexual violence in there lifetime from a current or former partner. Physical or sexual violence also include the threat of (which is horrible). 17% is entirely too high, but that's literally one of the first graphics you see when you click on the personal safety survey white ribbon link as their source. The men's rights activists do the same thing with there campaign of 1 in 4. For men its 6%.

Family violence/domestic violence (as all encompassing terms) include things like controlling behaviour. So if your partner has ever said 'i don't want you hanging out with that person' or 'you can't go that place you want to'; you are a victim of family violence.

This is not to diminish the severity of domestic violence, but stats can be misleading. Ive spoken to people that know that 1 in 3 stat and they assume 33% of australian women have been physically beaten by a partner, which just isn't true.

What a lot of people don’t realise is that to be a victim of family violence in Victoria covers much more than physical/sexual, it’s interesting you’re aware.

In addition to what you’ve covered, financial abuse is also included in the statistics (and it should be).

All these forms of abuse can have long terms effects on people and should be included in the act to allow for support and legal action.

However the use of the word violence as an umbrella term lends itself to be misleading.

I think it's unfortunate that they use such misleading statistics and terms, and that most people end up thinking the below;

Ive spoken to people that know that 1 in 3 stat and they assume 33% of australian women have been physically beaten by a partner, which just isn't true.

When the reality is that most relationships aren't physically violent - and where they are, it's often overlooked that the violence is mutual.

The term violence is very much being used for maximum political effect, not for the benefit of education.

 

[Old Campaigner]

I don’t think people realise just how common domestic violence is. It’s an epidemic in Australian society (and English by the sounds of it).

I took a course on domestic violence through work and was shocked by the levels of domestic violence against both men and women. Something needs to be done about it, but I don’t know what that is

There’s a pretty atrocious double standard too, if a woman was getting murdered by Islamic terrorists every week it’d be all over the news and something would be done about it but for whatever reason people don’t get as worked up about domestic violence. A bit like the fuss over shark attacks vs our blasé attitude towards deaths from falling off ladders I guess, we seem to irrationally focus on the gore-y or unusual stuff

 

[Kong]

Not entirely true. The 1 in 3 number has some pretty big liberties taken to get there.

17% of women have experienced physical or sexual violence in there lifetime from a current or former partner. Physical or sexual violence also include the threat of (which is horrible). 17% is entirely too high, but that's literally one of the first graphics you see when you click on the personal safety survey white ribbon link as their source. The men's rights activists do the same thing with there campaign of 1 in 4. For men its 6%.

Family violence/domestic violence (as all encompassing terms) include things like controlling behaviour. So if your partner has ever said 'i don't want you hanging out with that person' or 'you can't go that place you want to'; you are a victim of family violence.

This is not to diminish the severity of domestic violence, but stats can be misleading. Ive spoken to people that know that 1 in 3 stat and they assume 33% of australian women have been physically beaten by a partner, which just isn't true.

The research I've read generally lists two categories: domestic abuse, and domestic violence.

Violence being self explanatory, and abuse being what Mojo mentioned; emotional blackmail, withholding funds from a partner when they try to leave etc.

Domestic abuse is rightfully included in statistics. It can ruin a person's life just as much as domestic violence.

 

[Duckworth]

Kennet worried that if there is a Tasmania team in the future that the Tassie Hawk fans will jump ship haha

I think he’s worried they won’t jump ship, cause the new team will be the ‘Tassie Hawks’.


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[Barry Roundhouse]

The research I've read generally lists two categories: domestic abuse, and domestic violence.

Violence being self explanatory, and abuse being what Mojo mentioned; emotional blackmail, withholding funds from a partner when they try to leave etc.

Domestic abuse is rightfully included in statistics. It can ruin a person's life just as much as domestic violence.

Different states and legal jurisdictions have different terms and slightly varied definitions, which adds to confusion.

In Victoria, family violence is the preferred term under law.


http://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/vic/consol_act/fvpa2008283/s5.html

No matter what term is used, if you are seeing stats, especially ones that are high (e.g. 1 in 3) it is almost certainly using the above, all encompassing definition, or very similar.

Ive read hundreds of peer reviewed studies on the topic and its pretty consistent in that regard. Always have to check the definitions and notes of what the stats are made up of, because they aren't always put front and centre.

Anyway, this isn't the thread for this. Sorry mods.

Edit: I'm not trying to diminish or disparage the seriousness of family violence. It is all abhorrent.