Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread X

[Zach Package]

Doubt he is AFL standard.

And I am yet to be convinced by Jacksch.

They overpaid for Jacksch if the plan is to play him back, he's simply not a defender.
I feel sorry for Nick Graham in all of this, he's basically their best performed young player but he can't even get a look in. I reckon he'll go elsewhere at the end of the year

 

[Ashton Agar]

I feel sorry for Nick Graham in all of this, he's basically their best performed young player but he can't even get a look in.

Good call. I think Nick Graham could do good things, but he just can't buy an opportunity.

 

[Kakkle]

Good call. I think Nick Graham could do good things, but he just can't buy an opportunity.

Mick Malthouse said on radio last week that him and Patrick Cripps are playing for the same spot in the side. Which I found a little odd. You can't find a another place for Nick Graham in the best 22 at all?

 

[BrunoV]

Mick Malthouse said on radio last week that him and Patrick Cripps are playing for the same spot in the side. Which I found a little odd. You can't find a another place for Nick Graham in the best 22 at all?

It was about Graham needing to develop a game as a forward or a defender so that he can contribute to a whole game of footy.

His rationale is that at this stage Graham can only play as a midfielder which means that he only gets 5 minutes a quarter in the middle (and contributing to the team).

You wonder whether it's jumping at shadows (we have been doing the same thing with Kav).

 

[BrunoV]

I still don't accept that the players who took to the field are that bad. Robbo and King just alluded to Carlton ripping the heart out of its own season by allowing the issue with Malthouse's future to boil over as early in the season as they did.

I don't see how you can expect the players to play their hearts out when it's pretty clear that the coach won't be there next year. It's ridiculous that a season could start like this.

 

[RearNaked]

this carlton demise makes me happy in my pants

 

[HirdyLannister]

Would love to steal Patrick Cripps from Carlton...

 

[Zach Package]

It was about Graham needing to develop a game as a forward or a defender so that he can contribute to a whole game of footy.

His rationale is that at this stage Graham can only play as a midfielder which means that he only gets 5 minutes a quarter in the middle (and contributing to the team).

You wonder whether it's jumping at shadows (we have been doing the same thing with Kav).

Well someone with more foresight would just banish curnow, carazzo and ellard for all eternity

 

[BrunoV]

Well someone with more foresight would just banish curnow, carazzo and ellard for all eternity

You'd think so.

 

[Ashton Agar]

Mick Malthouse said on radio last week that him and Patrick Cripps are playing for the same spot in the side. Which I found a little odd. You can't find a another place for Nick Graham in the best 22 at all?

Yet they can fit in Dennis Armfield, David Ellard and Ed Curnow?

 

[Seagrave_Holmes]

Would love to steal Patrick Cripps from Carlton...

Yes, you would think (hope) that he wouldn't be a part of their next premiership so they should certainly off load him now.

 

[BrunoV]

Listening to Ben Gale on SEN now, I think I worked out why I don't like Richmond.

They like to have their cake and eat it too.

How pathetic that a club the size of Richmond is bitching about equalization not doing enough to help it build its list. This is in the context of the top up that occurred between 2012 and 2014 which has left them with no depth, funnily enough, and a need to finally hit the draft (only 6 years into Hardwick's tenure).

That whole club is just ****ing stupid, totally incapable of the sort of introspection that is required to develop a list properly.

So after two years of top ups they're now spending all of their time managing perceptions, talking up a coach they've tethered themselves seemingly for no reason other than to avoid being seen to be the same old Richmond by sacking coaches (because 6 years in he has either been unable to get his message across of he has neglected any tactical evolution in his game style).

 

[eth-dog]

I wouldn't doubt that Graham will get offered game time at a West Coast/Melbourne sort of club and Carlton will get a 3rd or 4th round pick in return.

 

[Zach Package]

Listening to Ben Gale on SEN now, I think I worked out why I don't like Richmond.

They like to have their cake and eat it too.

How pathetic that a club the size of Richmond is bitching about equalization not doing enough to help it build its list. This is in the context of the top up that occurred between 2012 and 2014 which has left them with no depth, funnily enough, and a need to finally hit the draft (only 6 years into Hardwick's tenure).

That whole club is just ******* stupid, totally incapable of the sort of introspection that is required to develop a list properly.

I've been saying it for probably 2 years, It's almost as if the 'brains trust' sat down in 2010 and just conceded defeat to the expansion clubs for the foreseeable future, and they drafted accordingly to justify their stance and look back at it and go 'see, the expansion sides destroyed our drafting'.

Discounting recycled players they've basically found 2 long term players in the past 5 drafts (Vlaustin and Ellis), plus 2 that are sort of around the mark (Bachelor and Conca), the rest either are yet to get a real opportunity or have been dumped already.

People talk about not wanting to go to Melbourne as an 18 year old, I'd not want to go to Richmond as an 18 year old, if you're lucky enough to be the 1-2 18 year olds they actually take you're pushing shit up a steep, steep hill from day one, having to compete with such luminaries as Ricky Petterd and Aaron Edwards.

 

[Kakkle]

Geelong at $2.20....

 

[Drummer_19]

Quite the master stroke by Hardwick not to start Rance on Hawkins. The old surprise tactic.

 

[monty1104]

Stevie J on food rations? Has no eye for his team mates today, just get ball, kick goal. Hungry as.

 

[Kakkle]

Richmond with 1.11 in their last 3 quarters.

 

[mad_monkey_j]

Flat track bully that Crameri.

 

[eth-dog]

Flat track bully that Crameri.

He's kicked a goal? Surprising (watching vfl)

 

[Zach Package]

Stevie J on food rations? Has no eye for his team mates today, just get ball, kick goal. Hungry as.

wants to make a statement. Trying way too hard at the moment

 

[Kakkle]

Dogs with 5.1 from 8 entries. Amazing.

 

[Zach Package]

lol at the last 5 minutes of the tigs game

 

[HirdyLannister]

I shouldn't of joined BF in Feb 2013 because of the saga, I now have zero sympathy for majority of the teams.
Adelaide and Freo are the only teams I don't mind beside Essendon.

 

[Zach Package]

MCG got the evacuate message happening...

Hardwick probably triggered the fire alarm