Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread X

[Sassafras]

Don't bother expanding the women's league then because they already have a team in each city

I don't think they will expand in small doses, I think they might wait a while to see if it has legs and the next instalment will be a group of teams all at once.

 

[Beerfish]

I meant I didnt understand it Museum as stated, one hell of a place

And I meant the song Hey Monah by Craig McLachlan and Check 1-2 is so bad I refuse to post it.

Now it's just awkward.

 

[yaco55]

Do we really care how a woman looks when they play sport? If they are elite in their field what does it matter what they look like? They could look overweight but if they can set a world record what does it matter? Athletes (both men and women) aren't there to look pretty.

I do care - For a start overweight athletes in track don't break world records - Compare mens and womens tennis players - The gents are generally in good shape, but the ladies shape is poorer - And this excludes S.Williams who is in ripping shape - As an opposite look at Ashleigh Barty whose just returned to tennis - Talented player but out of shape - Women athletes in some sports have to be in better shape.

 

[yaco55]

i would be worried if even the fittest of women had a body shape anything like men

They need to be in shape - Of course they don't look like men.

 

[yaco55]

Women's league will be a serious competition - Already star players are demanding to play for club A - I guess there will be some type of draft analysis on the D and T Board soon.

 

[The Speaker]

s. williams has also had rumours of peds surrounding her for years, as indeed does much of the tennis crowd

 

[bomberman500]

Carlton are a big name though. And maybe, just maybe, they put together a better application.

Either way, I won't be following anyone until Essendon have a team.

I'm on the GWS wagon for the womens... couple of girls that play for my clubs womens team made the squad so I have a vested interest

 

[bomberman500]

Hawks seemingly withdrew from the running for the same reasons we did. Don't think it's any great conspiracy in it, we've got bills to pay and they've got a base to build

which makes it interesting how 2 teams that rely on AFL handouts in the dogs and Melbourne would be allowed a team in a league that will ultimately bleed money

 

[bomberman500]

You don't watch a lot of women's sport do you?

Ok, womens cricket doesn't have the power, but it's not shite. Go play the Vic women's indoor team, they'll wreck you. Same for Women's hockey & soccer. There's a reason why we're ranked where we are in Basketball. As for netball, there's a reason why major channels have been chasing the viewing rights of late. It's fantastic to watch! Bloody brilliant sport!!

I can appreciate that when you compare men's football to women's you might feel like you're getting an inferior product because it's not as fast.
The thing is it's not about being the same thing. It's about embracing the sport for all.

Are you so close minded that you can't just enjoy it for what it is? No one's forcing you to like something but at least give it a chance.

Except when the Newcastle Jets U/15 boys flog the matildas 7-0...
RearNaked has a point, I'll still watch womens sport if I have the spare time but unless I have a vested interest (know a couple of girls in the GWS squad) I doubt I'll be watching much of this league

 

[bomberman500]

Heh. If I were competing in taekwondo I'd rather face a man than a woman. There are sports where men are superior to women, naturally. But there are also sports that women are superior to men as well.

No... men with elite fitness will have greater attributes than women with elite fitness, especially for any of the martial arts.

 

[eth-dog]

No... men with elite fitness will have greater attributes than women with elite fitness, especially for any of the martial arts.

Having sparred against men and women at the elite level in Taekwondo, I can tell you first hand that women are better than men at it. When I'm refereeing, I prefer to ref women's matches because they're usually of a higher quality.

 

[bomberman500]

Having sparred against men and women at the elite level in Taekwondo, I can tell you first hand that women are better than men at it. When I'm refereeing, I prefer to ref women's matches because they're usually of a higher quality.

I've done Taekwondo at a junior level for a couple of years... so obviously not to the extent that you have but even from that I can say that flexibility is only one part of whats required... you still need elite speed, and superior strength goes a long way as well.
slightly different but there's not a chance in hell a female would defeat a man in an MMA match

Hell even in an overtly feminine sport like gymnastics a males physique is a much better asset than a females.

 

[eth-dog]

I've done Taekwondo at a junior level for a couple of years... so obviously not to the extent that you have but even from that I can say that flexibility is only one part of whats required... you still need elite speed, and superior strength goes a long way as well.
slightly different but there's not a chance in hell a female would defeat a man in an MMA match

Hell even in an overtly feminine sport like gymnastics a males physique is a much better asset than a females.

Modern day taekwondo (it's changed a lot over the years), flexibility is the most important attribute. You can be slow and not that strong to go places in taekwondo but if you're not flexible you're basically rooted. Of course the best of the best have great strength and speed but that's to separate the top 10 athletes with the top 50 athletes. Without flexibility you'd be lucky to be in the top 100 in the world.

And MMA is very different sporting wise to taekwondo.

 

[Runk]

Except when the Newcastle Jets U/15 boys flog the matildas 7-0...
RearNaked has a point, I'll still watch womens sport if I have the spare time but unless I have a vested interest (know a couple of girls in the GWS squad) I doubt I'll be watching much of this league

I think you'll find that was not a full strength squad. A lot of player trialled that day. In saying that it sounds like you'll be at the least giving it a chance. RearNaked outlined that he won't watch it because women's sport is shit. Which it isn't. Then outlined he's not interested in watching other women's sports which essentially meant he's got no idea how good they are.

 

[bomberman500]

I think you'll find that was not a full strength squad. A lot of player trialled that day. In saying that it sounds like you'll be at the least giving it a chance. RearNaked outlined that he won't watch it because women's sport is shit. Which it isn't. Then outlined he's not interested in watching other women's sports which essentially meant he's got no idea how good they are.

for the most part he's being a realist... There is not a chance the standard will even be close to a country squads reserve grade.
However if you can look past the drop in quality and take it for what it is it could be enjoyable.

On the womens soccer team, even though they trialled players the girls that played were still in and around the top of womens soccer... and they got pumped by an u/15s club side. there is no excuse you can make for that.

The USA women's team (who were world champions at the time) played a friendly a few years back against the USA U-17 men's team.
They lost 8-2.

Canadian womens team played against a Canadian u/15 provincial team and lost 5-2

Swedish womens team lost 3-0 to a local u/17s team, playing with 10 men for the game after the womens coach requested they drop a defender

The Warroad High School boys' team squeaked out a 2-1 victory over the U.S. Olympic women's hockey team in 2006

The Canadian womens national ice hockey team plays in a local Midget AAA league (15-17 year old boys) in Calgary, Alberta. They have finished last in the league every year. Despite winning gold at the last 4 Olympic Games.

in Tennis, Karsten Braasch ranked #203 in the world beat both Williams sisters in a one set exhibition match, Serena 6-1 and Veuns 6-2

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Oh, everytime I look at you
I feel so low I don't know what to do...

• Jenkins is actually a good player
• Brisbane aren't going well
• The previous praise for the return of Carlton arrogance is hereby rescinded and the question is raised of how a shit side can be beaten
• Wild guess: Cloke's playing future at Collingwood is in doubt
• Normal programming will be interrupted to address a very special point made by a very special person:

Basically, what Damien Barrett is saying here in his weekly statement on the EFC is that due to the EFC's most grievous breach of AFL rule 1.campaigner or whatever it was, for which it has been summarily penalised in 2013 by the executive, and due to the charge of doping offence for which punishment is currently being served, that the club should now be subject to a sort of Mad Max level of anarchy and that there should be no rules, that there should be no observance of contractual obligation or that there should be any parameters around this club's involvement in the AFL. That, basically, we can forget about double jeopardy and should be anticipating infinite jeopardy for the club's most horrific maybe crime.

I feel it is important to highlight this as this person is being paid to ejaculate this frothy opinion onto an expectant internet on the executive's website. I cannot be reductive about this statement; the vituperation that courses through this rodent is nothing short of staggering. That he benefits financially from these thoughts is repugnant and downright heinous, but those transgressions are decidedly mild when one considers that nature has seen fit to afford this bilious trail of toad shit the capacity to breathe, let alone walk and talk. It would be forgivable if the bespectacled little collection of toenail gunk had the prowess to be even remotely entertaining from time to time - the host body known as Craig Hutchison has managed to be vaguely amusing at a staggering rate of once per decade, which is a 3,720% increase on The Growth Known As Damien.

I submit that football does not profit from playing host to "personalities" such as this, but perhaps football is tough enough. Perhaps football can sustain this. Can you imagine what would happen if this mobile pustule turned his attention to fields more worthy of someone as dynamic as he? Fields and groups such as the model train community? Bronies? Soccer? These noble arts and enthusiasms would surely buckle, wither, and die if they had to absorb this Peasant Sarcoptes Scabiei. No, my friends, perhaps this is the noble sacrifice that football shall have to weather up until the point that someone accidentally brutally steps in him. When that day comes my friends then there shall be a wonderful Ewok dance, probably complete with a 1997 montage of the other planets. Until then we must soldier on.

• If a player wants to continue with a new contract, they should try and play well
• Sometimes football doesn't make sense
• Good players don't want to play for shit sides
• Greene is a good player
• Hawthorn are a good side
• Gawn is a good player
• North Melbourne would be well advised to win football games if it would like to maintain its ladder position
• Fremantle mysteriously came good when everyone was talking about the tanking (NB: The bespectacled toenail gunk has not made this observation, as it would have required the basest level of insight. Instead he submits that Fremantle are harder to beat than they were a fortnight ago. Well done.)
• It is entirely possible that Dustin Martin will win the Brownlow; TAB are opening new markets on the likelihood of Martin glassing McAvaney at the end
• Jack Steven will be given the captaincy in 2017, unless he isn't
• Mackenzie is a dubious prospect
• lol boyd

 

[Doss]

Basically, what Damien Barrett is saying here in his weekly statement on the EFC is that due to the EFC's most grievous breach of AFL rule 1.campaigner or whatever it was, for which it has been summarily penalised in 2013 by the executive, and due to the charge of doping offence for which punishment is currently being served, that the club should now be subject to a sort of Mad Max level of anarchy and that there should be no rules, that there should be no observance of contractual obligation or that there should be any parameters around this club's involvement in the AFL. That, basically, we can forget about double jeopardy and should be anticipating infinite jeopardy for the club's most horrific maybe crime.

I feel it is important to highlight this as this person is being paid to ejaculate this frothy opinion onto an expectant internet on the executive's website. I cannot be reductive about this statement; the vituperation that courses through this rodent is nothing short of staggering. That he benefits financially from these thoughts is repugnant and downright heinous, but those transgressions are decidedly mild when one considers that nature has seen fit to afford this bilious trail of toad shit the capacity to breathe, let alone walk and talk. It would be forgivable if the bespectacled little collection of toenail gunk had the prowess to be even remotely entertaining from time to time - the host body known as Craig Hutchison has managed to be vaguely amusing at a staggering rate of once per decade, which is a 3,720% increase on The Growth Known As Damien.

I submit that football does not profit from playing host to "personalities" such as this, but perhaps football is tough enough. Perhaps football can sustain this. Can you imagine what would happen if this mobile pustule turned his attention to fields more worthy of someone as dynamic as he? Fields and groups such as the model train community? Bronies? Soccer? These noble arts and enthusiasms would surely buckle, wither, and die if they had to absorb this Peasant Sarcoptes Scabiei. No, my friends, perhaps this is the noble sacrifice that football shall have to weather up until the point that someone accidentally brutally steps in him. When that day comes my friends then there shall be a wonderful Ewok dance, probably complete with a 1997 montage of the other planets. Until then we must soldier on.

That, folks, is one of the great rants.

So many highlights. So much toenail gunk. So much toad shit.

 

[DapperDon]

That, folks, is one of the great rants.

So many highlights. So much toenail gunk. So much toad shit.

I shed a tear.

Best rant we have ever had, yes Jade, including your own.

 

[Beerfish]

I had to google vituperation.

 

[eth-dog]

Hoping for 3 late changes for NM tonight. I know it's pretty unrealistic but it would be nice.

 

[Maddogm]

Basically, what Damien Barrett is saying here in his weekly statement on the EFC is that due to the EFC's most grievous breach of AFL rule 1.campaigner or whatever it was, for which it has been summarily penalised in 2013 by the executive, and due to the charge of doping offence for which punishment is currently being served, that the club should now be subject to a sort of Mad Max level of anarchy and that there should be no rules, that there should be no observance of contractual obligation or that there should be any parameters around this club's involvement in the AFL. That, basically, we can forget about double jeopardy and should be anticipating infinite jeopardy for the club's most horrific maybe crime.

I feel it is important to highlight this as this person is being paid to ejaculate this frothy opinion onto an expectant internet on the executive's website. I cannot be reductive about this statement; the vituperation that courses through this rodent is nothing short of staggering. That he benefits financially from these thoughts is repugnant and downright heinous, but those transgressions are decidedly mild when one considers that nature has seen fit to afford this bilious trail of toad shit the capacity to breathe, let alone walk and talk. It would be forgivable if the bespectacled little collection of toenail gunk had the prowess to be even remotely entertaining from time to time - the host body known as Craig Hutchison has managed to be vaguely amusing at a staggering rate of once per decade, which is a 3,720% increase on The Growth Known As Damien.

I submit that football does not profit from playing host to "personalities" such as this, but perhaps football is tough enough. Perhaps football can sustain this. Can you imagine what would happen if this mobile pustule turned his attention to fields more worthy of someone as dynamic as he? Fields and groups such as the model train community? Bronies? Soccer? These noble arts and enthusiasms would surely buckle, wither, and die if they had to absorb this Peasant Sarcoptes Scabiei. No, my friends, perhaps this is the noble sacrifice that football shall have to weather up until the point that someone accidentally brutally steps in him. When that day comes my friends then there shall be a wonderful Ewok dance, probably complete with a 1997 montage of the other planets. Until then we must soldier on.

QFT

 

[sameolds33]

Oh, everytime I look at you
I feel so low I don't know what to do...

• Jenkins is actually a good player
• Brisbane aren't going well
• The previous praise for the return of Carlton arrogance is hereby rescinded and the question is raised of how a shit side can be beaten
• Wild guess: Cloke's playing future at Collingwood is in doubt
• Normal programming will be interrupted to address a very special point made by a very special person:

Basically, what Damien Barrett is saying here in his weekly statement on the EFC is that due to the EFC's most grievous breach of AFL rule 1.campaigner or whatever it was, for which it has been summarily penalised in 2013 by the executive, and due to the charge of doping offence for which punishment is currently being served, that the club should now be subject to a sort of Mad Max level of anarchy and that there should be no rules, that there should be no observance of contractual obligation or that there should be any parameters around this club's involvement in the AFL. That, basically, we can forget about double jeopardy and should be anticipating infinite jeopardy for the club's most horrific maybe crime.

I feel it is important to highlight this as this person is being paid to ejaculate this frothy opinion onto an expectant internet on the executive's website. I cannot be reductive about this statement; the vituperation that courses through this rodent is nothing short of staggering. That he benefits financially from these thoughts is repugnant and downright heinous, but those transgressions are decidedly mild when one considers that nature has seen fit to afford this bilious trail of toad shit the capacity to breathe, let alone walk and talk. It would be forgivable if the bespectacled little collection of toenail gunk had the prowess to be even remotely entertaining from time to time - the host body known as Craig Hutchison has managed to be vaguely amusing at a staggering rate of once per decade, which is a 3,720% increase on The Growth Known As Damien.

I submit that football does not profit from playing host to "personalities" such as this, but perhaps football is tough enough. Perhaps football can sustain this. Can you imagine what would happen if this mobile pustule turned his attention to fields more worthy of someone as dynamic as he? Fields and groups such as the model train community? Bronies? Soccer? These noble arts and enthusiasms would surely buckle, wither, and die if they had to absorb this Peasant Sarcoptes Scabiei. No, my friends, perhaps this is the noble sacrifice that football shall have to weather up until the point that someone accidentally brutally steps in him. When that day comes my friends then there shall be a wonderful Ewok dance, probably complete with a 1997 montage of the other planets. Until then we must soldier on.

• If a player wants to continue with a new contract, they should try and play well
• Sometimes football doesn't make sense
• Good players don't want to play for shit sides
• Greene is a good player
• Hawthorn are a good side
• Gawn is a good player
• North Melbourne would be well advised to win football games if it would like to maintain its ladder position
• Fremantle mysteriously came good when everyone was talking about the tanking (NB: The bespectacled toenail gunk has not made this observation, as it would have required the basest level of insight. Instead he submits that Fremantle are harder to beat than they were a fortnight ago. Well done.)
• It is entirely possible that Dustin Martin will win the Brownlow; TAB are opening new markets on the likelihood of Martin glassing McAvaney at the end
• Jack Steven will be given the captaincy in 2017, unless he isn't
• Mackenzie is a dubious prospect
• lol boyd

Next Queen's Birthday honours list nomination for services to a beleaguered community. Can a lord be knighted? Sir Lord Nicholson?

 

[doug85]

Oh, everytime I look at you
I feel so low I don't know what to do...

• Jenkins is actually a good player
• Brisbane aren't going well
• The previous praise for the return of Carlton arrogance is hereby rescinded and the question is raised of how a shit side can be beaten
• Wild guess: Cloke's playing future at Collingwood is in doubt
• Normal programming will be interrupted to address a very special point made by a very special person:

Basically, what Damien Barrett is saying here in his weekly statement on the EFC is that due to the EFC's most grievous breach of AFL rule 1.campaigner or whatever it was, for which it has been summarily penalised in 2013 by the executive, and due to the charge of doping offence for which punishment is currently being served, that the club should now be subject to a sort of Mad Max level of anarchy and that there should be no rules, that there should be no observance of contractual obligation or that there should be any parameters around this club's involvement in the AFL. That, basically, we can forget about double jeopardy and should be anticipating infinite jeopardy for the club's most horrific maybe crime.

I feel it is important to highlight this as this person is being paid to ejaculate this frothy opinion onto an expectant internet on the executive's website. I cannot be reductive about this statement; the vituperation that courses through this rodent is nothing short of staggering. That he benefits financially from these thoughts is repugnant and downright heinous, but those transgressions are decidedly mild when one considers that nature has seen fit to afford this bilious trail of toad shit the capacity to breathe, let alone walk and talk. It would be forgivable if the bespectacled little collection of toenail gunk had the prowess to be even remotely entertaining from time to time - the host body known as Craig Hutchison has managed to be vaguely amusing at a staggering rate of once per decade, which is a 3,720% increase on The Growth Known As Damien.

I submit that football does not profit from playing host to "personalities" such as this, but perhaps football is tough enough. Perhaps football can sustain this. Can you imagine what would happen if this mobile pustule turned his attention to fields more worthy of someone as dynamic as he? Fields and groups such as the model train community? Bronies? Soccer? These noble arts and enthusiasms would surely buckle, wither, and die if they had to absorb this Peasant Sarcoptes Scabiei. No, my friends, perhaps this is the noble sacrifice that football shall have to weather up until the point that someone accidentally brutally steps in him. When that day comes my friends then there shall be a wonderful Ewok dance, probably complete with a 1997 montage of the other planets. Until then we must soldier on.

• If a player wants to continue with a new contract, they should try and play well
• Sometimes football doesn't make sense
• Good players don't want to play for shit sides
• Greene is a good player
• Hawthorn are a good side
• Gawn is a good player
• North Melbourne would be well advised to win football games if it would like to maintain its ladder position
• Fremantle mysteriously came good when everyone was talking about the tanking (NB: The bespectacled toenail gunk has not made this observation, as it would have required the basest level of insight. Instead he submits that Fremantle are harder to beat than they were a fortnight ago. Well done.)
• It is entirely possible that Dustin Martin will win the Brownlow; TAB are opening new markets on the likelihood of Martin glassing McAvaney at the end
• Jack Steven will be given the captaincy in 2017, unless he isn't
• Mackenzie is a dubious prospect
• lol boyd

Can I tweet this to the twerp?

 

[bomberman500]

Can I tweet this to the twerp?

you mean he hasn't blocked you??

 

[doug85]

you mean he hasn't blocked you??

No I haven't had the honour.