NSW govt bans greyhound racing

[sprockets]

The NSW Government and their Department Of Justice would have you believe that greyhound racing is legal in only 8 countries and that it's banned in 40 States of the US.

"National Greyhound Racing United - NGRU
24 August at 20:08 · Animals & Pets · Travel


For those that care to know, and to those that keep saying "ONLY 8 COUNTRIES ALLOW GREYHOUND RACING" here is the full list of countries greyhound racing is NOT ...illegal in:

Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Armenia
Aruba
Australia (NSW only as of next July, but it'll be back!)
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahamas, The
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belgium
Belize
Benin
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burma
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Canada
Cabo Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
Chile
China
Colombia
Comoros
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
Congo, Republic of the
Costa Rica
Cote d'Ivoire
Croatia
Cuba
Curacao
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominica
Dominican Republic
East Timor (see Timor-Leste)
Ecuador
Egypt
El Salvador
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Fiji
Finland
France
Gabon
Gambia, The
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Grenada
Guatemala
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Guyana
Haiti
Holy See
Honduras
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kiribati
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kosovo
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Latvia
Lebanon
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macau
Macedonia
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Mali
Malta
Marshall Islands
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mexico
Micronesia
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
Montenegro
Morocco
Mozambique
Namibia
Nauru
Nepal
Netherlands
Netherlands Antilles
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Niger
Nigeria
North Korea
Norway
Oman
Pakistan
Palau
Palestinian Territories
Panama
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Romania
Russia
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Samoa
San Marino
Sao Tome and Principe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Sint Maarten
Slovakia
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
Somalia
South Korea
South Sudan
Spain
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname
Swaziland
Sweden
Switzerland
Syria
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Thailand
Timor-Leste
Togo
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Tuvalu
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United States (2 states have banned it for now)
Uruguay
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe

You're welcome!"

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Rubbish, it's a GRNSW figure that was given to the McHugh Inquiry by GRNSW. If all you can do is say everything's a lie without putting up any facts of your own to counter it (McHugh's admitted guess isn't a fact btw) then you've lost the argument. Also if someone leaks a fact to the media it's "gutless" - that's one I haven't heard before LOL.

By the way, even though I've told you many times in here, GRNSW is a statutory NSW Government body. So, you're telling us the NSW Government is telling lies... Who'd have thought it!

So where are your figures from? You're drowning here.

 

[sprockets]

Yes, yes, 'hidden agenda' 'conspiracy by the five wealthiest world families in league with the reptoids' 'where's my tin foil hat?'

It is $350 - as outlined on the front page of the website
http://greyhoundrescue.com.au/

Conspiracy? No. Thankyou for putting up a fact of your own with the adoption fee. So I take it you get $350 per greyhound adopted. How much in donations do you get?

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Conspiracy? No. Thankyou for putting up a fact of your own with the adoption fee. So I take it you get $350 per greyhound adopted. How much in donations do you get?

I don't know - I don't work for greyhound rescue.

 

[sprockets]

So where are your figures from? You're drowning here.

Which figures?

 

[FallingLiefs]

If all you can do is say everything's a lie without putting up any facts of your own to counter it then you've lost the argument.

 

[sprockets]

I don't know - I don't work for greyhound rescue.

How convenient, considering you have a link to their email address in your sig, and of course you can't find out just to help us out... Do you volunteer for them?

 

[sprockets]

View attachment 282463

Except I have, many times. As you have nothing more to add here and have also resorted to the silly memes (that are untrue btw) I'll also put you on ignore.

 

[Jugada]

Spoiler

He won't...

 

[FallingLiefs]

Except I have, many times. As you have nothing more to add here and keep suggesting it's a conspiracy I'll also put you on ignore.

before i am ignored, 1 question.

are you as angry with the regulator of the industry with their lack of progress over the recent years of turmoil and ability to document a sound and reasonable number supported by cold hard facts instead of surveys, as you are with the government that had no facts to go on that decided to cut the industry?

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

How convenient, considering you have a link to their email address in your sig, and of course you can't find out just to help us out... Do you volunteer for them?

I have walked rescue greyhounds a couple of times, does that count?

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

How convenient, considering you have a link to their email address in your sig,

My previous signature had something to do with Black Flag - sorry to break the band news, but I don't perform with them.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Which figures?

your 6.9 per cent.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

The NSW Government and their Department Of Justice would have you believe that greyhound racing is legal in only 8 countries and that it's banned in 40 States of the US.

"National Greyhound Racing United - NGRU
24 August at 20:08 · Animals & Pets · Travel


For those that care to know, and to those that keep saying "ONLY 8 COUNTRIES ALLOW GREYHOUND RACING" here is the full list of countries greyhound racing is NOT ...illegal in:

Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Armenia
Aruba
Australia (NSW only as of next July, but it'll be back!)
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahamas, The
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belgium
Belize
Benin
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burma
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Canada
Cabo Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
Chile
China
Colombia
Comoros
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
Congo, Republic of the
Costa Rica
Cote d'Ivoire
Croatia
Cuba
Curacao
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominica
Dominican Republic
East Timor (see Timor-Leste)
Ecuador
Egypt
El Salvador
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Fiji
Finland
France
Gabon
Gambia, The
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Grenada
Guatemala
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Guyana
Haiti
Holy See
Honduras
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kiribati
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kosovo
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Latvia
Lebanon
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macau
Macedonia
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Mali
Malta
Marshall Islands
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mexico
Micronesia
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
Montenegro
Morocco
Mozambique
Namibia
Nauru
Nepal
Netherlands
Netherlands Antilles
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Niger
Nigeria
North Korea
Norway
Oman
Pakistan
Palau
Palestinian Territories
Panama
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Romania
Russia
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Samoa
San Marino
Sao Tome and Principe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Sint Maarten
Slovakia
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
Somalia
South Korea
South Sudan
Spain
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname
Swaziland
Sweden
Switzerland
Syria
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Thailand
Timor-Leste
Togo
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Tuvalu
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United States (2 states have banned it for now)
Uruguay
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe

You're welcome!"

How many of those countries have greyhound racing?

Please provide evidence in your response.

 

[sprockets]

before i am ignored, 1 question.

are you as angry with the regulator of the industry with their lack of progress over the recent years of turmoil and ability to document a sound and reasonable number supported by cold hard facts instead of surveys, as you are with the government that had no facts to go on that decided to cut the industry?

I'm angry with the NSW Government and the regulator, which is part of the Government. If the Government had chosen to take note of the most accurate assessment of unnecessary euthanasia of them all, their own, greyhound racing wouldn't have been banned in NSW. Compulsory surveys give you facts. Ever heard of the Census? It's a survey. Yes I realise the Government stuffed that up as well this year, although some people believe governments are infallible. There's a reason we vote them out every few years.

Note: You'll only be ignored if you continue to sprout BS as KOB and co have done with the silly memes and asking questions that have already been answered or just commenting for the sake of commenting about something you obviously know little about. The Prime Minister (Lib) and Deputy Prime Minister (Nat) both agree with me as do Luke Foley (Leader of the NSW opposition - Lab), the MPs that crossed the floor as well as some that didn't, but of course, it's all a conspiracy LOL. At least you eventually did the right thing and had a look back through my posts, as requested.

Having said that, at least you can see for yourselves some of the tactics (and there are many, mostly dishonest) used by 'anti's' and animal activists.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

I'm angry with the NSW Government and the regulator, which is part of the Government. If the Government had chosen to take note of the most accurate assessment of unnecessary euthanasia of them all, their own, greyhound racing wouldn't have been banned in NSW. Compulsory surveys give you facts. Ever heard of the Census? It's a survey. Yes I realise the Government stuffed that up as well this year, although some people believe governments are infallible. There's a reason we vote them out every few years.

Note: You'll only be ignored if you continue to sprout BS as KOB and co have done with the silly memes and asking questions that have already been answered or just commenting for the sake of commenting about something you obviously know little about. The Prime Minister (Lib) and Deputy Prime Minister (Nat) both agree with me as do Luke Foley (Leader of the NSW opposition - Lab), the MPs that crossed the floor as well as some that didn't, but of course, it's all a conspiracy LOL. At least you eventually did the right thing and had a look back through my posts, as requested.

Having said that, at least you can see for yourselves some of the tactics (and their are many, mostly dishonest) used by 'anti's' and animal activists.

What a load of rubbish. You still fail to source your stat of 6.9 per cent wastage.

You scream 'conspiracy!' over greyhound rescue hiding the adoption fee, despite it being on the front page of its website

You scream 'conspiracy!' over greyhound rescue not releasing the figures of adoption rates for the last 12 years yet the figures are in the public domain on it's website.

You scream 'conspiracy' over an inquiry presided over by a former Justice of the High Court and throw your lot in with the wing nuts of the NGRU whose supporters argue that animal rights activists kill dogs and bury them on other peoples property to make the industry look bad and that the RSPCA should be shut down because it kills more animals than the greyhound industry.

Go have a lie down mate, I think you're done

 

[kyan]

Watching a youtube video today that was talking about the ban that may happen next year in NSW and a question was raised, 'How will people be able to bet on the dogs in the last week/month?' Referring to trainers with short odds favourites purposefully drugging their dog to lose so they can lay the on betfair etc.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Watching a youtube video today that was talking about the ban that may happen next year in NSW and a question was raised, 'How will people be able to bet on the dogs in the last week/month?' Referring to trainers with short odds favourites purposefully drugging their dog to lose so they can lay the on betfair etc.

It happens now.

 

[sprockets]

Watching a youtube video today that was talking about the ban that may happen next year in NSW and a question was raised, 'How will people be able to bet on the dogs in the last week/month?' Referring to trainers with short odds favourites purposefully drugging their dog to lose so they can lay the on betfair etc.

I think you'll find that those trainers, if it happened, are breaking the law and will most likely pay a heavier price than they would currently.

 

[sprockets]

Of course, there's no corruption in the NSW Government, so everything's above board...

"Envelopes of cash handed over in the back of a Bentley, sham invoices and a modest artwork that became an expensive masterpiece: Operation Spicer revealed the ingenious ways in which illicit political donations could be disguised.

For nine weeks in 2014, the Independent Commission Against Corruption inquiry into Liberal Party fundraising heard explosive allegations that led to 10 state Liberal MPs joining the crossbench or quitting politics ..."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icacs-operation-spicer-report-two-years-in-the-making-20160829-gr3lua.html

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Of course, there's no corruption in the NSW Government, so everything's above board...

"Envelopes of cash handed over in the back of a Bentley, sham invoices and a modest artwork that became an expensive masterpiece: Operation Spicer revealed the ingenious ways in which illicit political donations could be disguised.

For nine weeks in 2014, the Independent Commission Against Corruption inquiry into Liberal Party fundraising heard explosive allegations that led to 10 state Liberal MPs joining the crossbench or quitting politics ..."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icacs-operation-spicer-report-two-years-in-the-making-20160829-gr3lua.html

Brilliant. There are corrupt politicians therefore every politician is corrupt

 

[sprockets]

Of course, there's no corruption in the NSW Government, so everything's above board...

"Envelopes of cash handed over in the back of a Bentley, sham invoices and a modest artwork that became an expensive masterpiece: Operation Spicer revealed the ingenious ways in which illicit political donations could be disguised.

For nine weeks in 2014, the Independent Commission Against Corruption inquiry into Liberal Party fundraising heard explosive allegations that led to 10 state Liberal MPs joining the crossbench or quitting politics ..."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icacs-operation-spicer-report-two-years-in-the-making-20160829-gr3lua.html

I wonder what time will tell us about the current NSW Police and Racing minister, Troy Grant.

"The New South Wales Director of Public Prosecutions should consider charges against former Labor minister Joe Tripodi and former Liberal minister Chris Hartcher, the state's corruption watchdog says.

A number of prominent businessmen and MPs in NSW tried to evade election funding laws, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) found.

They include former Liberal police minister Mike Gallacher - who remains an MP in the state's Upper House, but left the parliamentary Liberal Party after being named at the ICAC inquiry."

"The report found that the Free Enterprise Foundation was used to channel donations to the NSW Liberal Party for its 2011 state election campaign.

It also found undisclosed political donations were channelled through a business called Eight By Five to benefit the Liberal Party's 2011 state election campaign on the state's Central Coast.

The ICAC named a string of people who it found acted with the intention of evading election funding laws, which govern public disclosures and bans on donations from developers.

Along with Mr Hartcher, Mr Cornwell and Mr Gallacher, they include:

• former Liberal MP for The Entrance Chris Spence;
• former Liberal MP for Newcastle Tim Owen;
• former Liberal MP for Swansea Garry Edwards;
• former Liberal Londonderry MP Bart Bassett;
• former Liberal Port Stephens MP Craig Baumann;
• former Liberal Wyong MP Darren Webber;
• former Newcastle lord mayor Jeff McCloy; and
• solicitor Nick Di Girolamo.

Labor leader Luke Foley said the commission had "uncovered an orchestrated scam from the Liberal Party in this state to evade the electoral funding laws of New South Wales"."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-...against-corruption-icac-spicer-report/7796928

But, of course, it's all above board up there.

 

[sprockets]

Wouldn't have anything to do with the investigation in the previous post... nah, surely:

"The NSW corruption watchdog says it is facing a "funding crisis" and will be forced to fire 16 people after State Government cuts.

Key points:

• ICAC's staff budget to be reduced by around 9.5 per cent
• PSA's Steve Turner says funding cut takes accountability away from government
• Premier leaves door open to future supplementation of watchdog's budget

A statement issued by the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) said its staff budget would be reduced by approximately 9.5 per cent for the next financial year, which means it will be forced to drop its workforce from 124 to 103 positions."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-...o-fire-staff-as-government-cuts-funds/7477796

 

[ash_1050]

So in short Sprockets can't provide any source evidence for his 6.9% claim or a list of other countries that have established greyhound racing. Nothing to see here move along.

 

[sprockets]

LOL, 'ash_1050'... You wouldn't have more than one account here by any chance or maybe you're using someone else's account? I don't see where you've asked that question previously sorry. In answer to it, I provided you with where the figure comes from. Just a page or so ago another member also provided you with the post I made stating where it comes from.

I didn't realise anyone had asked for a list of countries that race greyhounds but maybe it was one of the people I have on 'Ignore'. There are currently 29 countries that have organised greyhound racing. Now, if I tell you the names of those countries will you accept that I'm telling the truth and instead of asking questions trying to find a loophole or typo somewhere, come up with some facts of your own (memes aren't facts and neither is "sprockets is wrong") to support whatever argument you're trying to make?