Official Off-Season Thread 2017

[stewie griffen]

Except he is worse than both of them. If Lillard or Conley swapped with Irving and played alongside Lebron they'd look leagues better than him.

Thats the one i'd be targeting if i were Cleveland

 

[nahnah]

Thats the one i'd be targeting if i were Cleveland

Conley earns about 10mil more than Kyrie, we would have to do the unthinkable and include shump

 

[stewie griffen]

Conley earns about 10mil more than Kyrie, we would have to do the unthinkable and include shump

Well that's an obvious flaw

The other is, if bron is gone u need something in the cupboard

If you want to still compete for a title I think Conley is about the best available

But rebuilding with a 30 plus Conley and owing him the best part of 90 million is all kinds of blurgh.

I'd also be tempted to tell Irving to suck it up and hold him to his contract for 12 months

 

[jdz101]

Thats the one i'd be targeting if i were Cleveland

They're so far over the cap. To bring Conley in they would need to offload almost 36 million bucks. That's Irving's salary plus another 17 million.

Good luck getting the grizz to take one of korver or jr smith.

Only one that remotely works is adding Thompson, which the grizz also may not want, and ruins the cavs' team make-up anyway.

Irving wouldn't want to go to Memphis in any case I would have thought.

 

[stewie griffen]

They're so far over the cap. To bring Conley in they would need to offload almost 36 million bucks. That's Irving's salary plus another 17 million.

Good luck getting the grizz to take one of korver or jr smith.

Only one that remotely works is adding Thompson, which the grizz also may not want, and ruins the cavs' team make-up anyway.

Irving wouldn't want to go to Memphis in any case I would have thought.

I'd tend to think you throw in love and get gasol back.....

But yeah it ain't happening

 

[nahnah]

Well that's an obvious flaw

The other is, if bron is gone u need something in the cupboard

If you want to still compete for a title I think Conley is about the best available

But rebuilding with a 30 plus Conley and owing him the best part of 90 million is all kinds of blurgh.

I'd also be tempted to tell Irving to suck it up and hold him to his contract for 12 months

I am in favour of keeping the future in mind as in my opinion anything we do ends with a finals loss

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

IMO the Cavs can't be better if they trade Kyrie.

 

[PP34]

Paul George was the perfect fit. Although I am not sure who does the clutch work without Kyrie.

Clutch work is one of the few knocks on LeBron but it is a legitimate one IMO

Except LeBron was better in fourth quarters of the 2016 finals.

 

[QuietB]

Except LeBron was better in fourth quarters of the 2016 finals.

2016 finals was 6 blowouts + Kyrie's 3

 

[PP34]

2016 finals was 6 blowouts + Kyrie's 3

One shot. People conviently forget that he was putting up bricks almost the entire fourth. They wouldn't have even been in the position for him to hit that shot if it wasn't for LeBron's chasedown block plus a number of other things he did in that quarter.

It isn't 2011 anymore. LeBron is more than capable of being good in the fourth quarter.

 

[QuietB]

One shot. People conviently forget that he was putting up bricks almost the entire fourth. They wouldn't have even been in the position for him to hit that shot if it wasn't for LeBron's chasedown block plus a number of other things he did in that quarter.

It isn't 2011 anymore. LeBron is more than capable of being good in the fourth quarter.

Absolutely. Taking the last shot is not the reason he is in the GOAT conversation though. That is fact.

Edit: I was not talking up Kyries 3 either. Just merely pointing out that was the only game that even required a clutch performance. The rest were blowouts and when the Cavs won the Warriors starters were probably sitting on the bench.

 

[PP34]

Absolutely. Taking the last shot is not the reason he is in the GOAT conversation though. That is fact.

Edit: I was not talking up Kyries 3 either. Just merely pointing out that was the only game that even required a clutch performance. The rest were blowouts and when the Cavs won the Warriors starters were probably sitting on the bench.

Game 5 and 6 required constant Cavs buckets to keep the Warriors at bay. Particularly game 6 when the Warriors starting to get going late in the third.

The thing they lose most if they trade Kyrie is his ability to give LeBron a rest from creating offence. Irving isn't much of a playmaker but he can obviously score.

If they trade him and get something average in return I think that's really going to impact LeBron's game negatively. He's not the 24 years old anymore.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Irving is the perfect 1B on that team. If they want to win the East again, they have to keep him and hope he gets over it.

 

[Upgrayedd]

One shot. People conviently forget that he was putting up bricks almost the entire fourth. They wouldn't have even been in the position for him to hit that shot if it wasn't for LeBron's chasedown block plus a number of other things he did in that quarter.

It isn't 2011 anymore. LeBron is more than capable of being good in the fourth quarter.

No Clutch only means hitting iso jump shots according to everyone. No matter if Lebron made every right play, made some monster defensive efforts. I think Cleveland were absolute grit on the defensive end. Those defensive moments where Love managed to contain Curry Iso 1-1, Lebrons block were more telling then Kyrie's 3

 

[PP34]

No Clutch only means hitting iso jump shots according to everyone. No matter if Lebron made every right play, made some monster defensive efforts. I think Cleveland were absolute grit on the defensive end.

Yep. The Cavs defence won them this series.

It lost them the finals this year. Obviously stopping the current Warriors is near impossible though).

I think the Cavs would be just as good with someone like Conley who can provide more defensively.

 

[nahnah]

He's from Brooklyn, do Brooklyn feel like selling their soul again?

 

[QuietB]

He's from Brooklyn, do Brooklyn feel like selling their soul again?

D'Lo to the Cavs

Does Brooklyn have any other assets?

 

[Upgrayedd]

Yep. The Cavs defence won them this series.

It lost them the finals this year. Obviously stopping the current Warriors is near impossible though).

I think the Cavs would be just as good with someone like Conley who can provide more defensively.

Some difference between sagging off Barnes to close harder and trap Thompson and Curry and Sagging off Durant.

I still think Kyrie gives them someone who can consistently score 20ppg and aggredive. Conley is more rounded by Kyrie so dynamic on offense

 

[Son of Skeletor]

https://cavsnation.com/report-kings-ready-to-offer-package-with-deaaron-fox-for-kyrie-irving/

Yeah, Sam Amico rumours are

He's linked us too, tabloid style.

 

[stewie griffen]

He's from Brooklyn, do Brooklyn feel like selling their soul again?

He's from Melbourne [emoji23]

 

[largebus]

D'Lo to the Cavs

Does Brooklyn have any other assets?

LeLinsanity

 

[Upgrayedd]

He's from Brooklyn, do Brooklyn feel like selling their soul again?

Literally the only position the Net's dont need to add to. They wont be throwing any first round picks at anything for years.

 

[2006_Eagles]

If it's only coming from Amico it's made up

Yeah, Sam Amico rumours are

He's linked us too, tabloid style.

I had this idea he was fairly reputable. Myyyyyy mistake

 

[Son of Skeletor]

I had this idea he was fairly reputable. Myyyyyy mistake

You might be confusing him with Sam Amick, who is fairly reliable.

Easy mistake to make.

 

[2006_Eagles]

You might be confusing him with Sam Amick, who is fairly reliable.

Easy mistake to make.

Yeah I am. Damn you Amico!