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Pie eyed said:
So.....?
Logically, therefore, we are going to win this year 2018 and......be retrospectively awarded the 2014 and 2002 flags?

32-12=20-12=8-12=-4(2014)=-12(2002).

Thanks Hawthorn.

Suck it Brisbane.
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A belated goal review and a decision to retrospectively reduce COLA advantage by dividing a team’s score to the extent it was advantaged should do it :)
 
Not really an omen, but anyway,

Generally, as soon as Collingwood flags are even remotely mooted, some wag in the "meeja" expounds the myth that Collingwood flags are portents of economic doom....

Well this time I'm getting in first with the facts, so go suck these facts meeja short people.


"IF COLLINGWOOD wins this year some would tell us to be afraid. That the correlation between Pies premierships and economic and market mayhem is disturbingly tight.

Unfortunately the bullshit artists cant stretch the truth enough to link Collingwood's premierships in the first two decades of the 20th century to any particular economic portent, but as the roaring '20s peaked and segued into the Great Depression, they will claim the club was both a harbinger of strife and the dominant force while it was happening.


Lets look at the facts, sans convenient omission, wild generalisation or simple blatant lies.


Syd Coventry led Collingwood to a hat trick in 1929.

The team won in 1927 and 1928 when the 1920s boom was at its zenith, and won again in 1929, only a few months after the introduction into the US Congress of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, a piece of protectionist legislation that preceded the Depression.

Syd Coventry led the Pies to a 97-50 win over Richmond that year at the top of a six-year sharemarket bull run that had boosted Wall Street share prices fivefold.

Collingwood beat Geelong to complete a premiership quadrella in 1930, a feat never equalled in VFL or AFL history and also a year in which Australia's economy showed the first signs it had begun to contract.

It was however Geelongs premiership in 1931 which ushered in the depression in Australia, not as falsely claimed Collingwood in 1930 or even more spuriously 1929.

Even the fraudsters agree Collingwoods next premiership, in 1935, actually occurred as the global economy was emerging from the Great Depression, and did not trigger economic chaos here or overseas in fact ushering in a period of stability and prosperity.

It was another Geelong Premiership which allegedly caused the wool price to halve in 1952 as the US buying tailed off, not the Pies as fraudulently claimed.

In fact Australia's biggest export industry was in a recession and facing increasing competition from nylon and other new synthetic materials manufactured in the US not a 1952 VFL flag a world away.

The Pies returned to form in 1953, when they won the premiership, ending the Korean war.

Collingwood next won in 1958 with the purveyors of falsehood conveniently claiming the Pies victory was the cause of another economic downturn - the Menzies government's 1960 credit squeeze, rather than laying the blame squarely at the feet of Melbourne who won both the 1959 and 1960 flags.

Collingwood didn't triumph again until 1990, and that flag was won on the cusp of another economic slump, Paul Keating's “Recession We Had To Have”again lazily laid at the feet of Collingwood but actually brought on by Hawthorn flags in 86,88,89 and punctuated by their 1991 win. All 4 premierships conveniently ignored in order to validate the untenable claim that Collingwood flags cause economic distress.

When the next premiership win finally came in 2010, most observers noted the win heralded the climb away from the wreck of the 2007-09 global financial crisis, despite the venal efforts to fraudulently claim Collingwoods 2010 flag had a negative impact on the Australian economy by the false profits.

An ABS report had the following to say of the Economy in late 2010;

“Australia remains home to one of the world's best performing economies, with the latest data showing growth is now back to pre-financial crisis levels.”
 
60 Yards Out said:
I had a mate who, while we were travelling overseas, dreamed that the 1977 grand final would finish in a draw.
Now speaking of omens... 1958 to 1990 = a gap of 32 years. 1990 to 2010 = a gap of 20 years. Next gap due of 8 years takes us to...
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Furthermore....
Moses 32,20 says"

Then Bucks said to them, “If you will do this—if you will arm yourselves before the barrackers for battle,

and if all of you who are armed cross over the Yarra before the barrackers until we have driven our enemies out before us
 
magpiewarrior said:
Oh, and I have only ever attended 2 GFs, 2003 and 2011. Under no circumstances will I attend another involving our beloved Pies, I just couldn't stand doing that to us again.
Yeah, Yeah, I know, no one person could cause that ( off field ) but why risk it eh!
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I attended both the 1977 and 2010 draws........................and lived.
 

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I admire your fortitude, I only just survived sitting in the stand at the Punt Rd end for PF against Hawthorn in 2011.
 
True story...
back in 2010, the morning of the GF Replay, I was out on my front porch having a coffee. My 2 dogs were sitting with me. One dog is all black, and the other all white.

A Magpie noisily flew down and sat on my side fence in clear view of us. My dogs always would get up and bark and scare off any birds, but not this time.
The Magpie looked at us, my dogs stared up at the Magpie. The Magpie walked along the fence for a short distance. Then it started to sharpen its beak on the wooden fence. I looked down at my dogs, expecting them to get up and bark and scare the Magpie away, but all they did was stare back.
The Magpie looked at us again, and then flew off.

It was truly an eerie and strange moment. I sat there for a few moments in silence, just taking in what happened, and wondered what it meant for the rest of the day. I told myself it was a sign of positive things to come.
 
Last team to play Freo in the last round away then play WCE away the following game (finals) won the flag.

The most popular ladder position by the last 10 premiers has been 2 and 3rd.

Richmond was 13th then 3rd last year. We were 13th last year and look like finishing 3rd this year. Both clubs went in to the following year after finishing 3rd with massive external pressure to sack their coaches.

Ladies and gents.... your 2018 premier is Collingwood!!
 
Dreamed a few of these over the years, but mostly after ex wife came over from the states.

Most vivid was the North Melbourne dream in 2015 that I have iterated before, we it was right down to us being well down at half time, and then roaring back to win, and even the scores within a couple of points. What's more alarming is my brother was with me, and he is mad north, and I was checking on my phone on the apple AFL app.

I have had a few this year, of which I recall one where we belted Geelong by a massive margin, and I was told who won in the dream by someone at their house.

Another involved meeting my boss listening to the radio, mad Richmond, and she looked shattered. We were up 36-49, and we just kicked a goal to go 16 points up 36-55. I'd love to down the Tigers in a grand final, because she said she would loathe losing to us in the big dance. Revenge for 1980? Check!

More recent was Collingwood playing in Perth, against the Eagles, and we were winning 29-86, only to come back and win 89-92. Late winner by our boys. I do get these impressions.

From what I have been told is that the dreams illustrate the ups and downs of following the Magpies. How disappointed I get when they lose, and sheer euphoria when we win. It's the same reaction I get from family, and how fickle they can be. But digressing....

Dreams mean something, but whether they can lead to the result literally is another thing. I won't go into massive detail, but feel dreams are possible futures, and I feel time is all past, present and future entwined. Very fluid, and somehow we tap into these depending on how important we perceive them to be.

This west coast dream was so strong, as was the one with my boss. Maybe it'll come to fruition. Absolutely hope so :thumbsu:
 
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I’m not usually the most superstitious person, but this upcoming match makes me very nervous.

In 2008 in the final round we played Fremantle who were at the bottom of the ladder, all we had to do was beat them to secure a home final or possibly 4th spot. That didn’t turn out as expected.

10 years later...

At least this year there’s no chance of us finishing less than 6th.
 
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Interesting that the two last premiership teams have finished with a 15-7 H&A record.

Western Bulldogs (2016) = 15-7 (7th) - 115.4%
Richmond (2017) = 15-7 (3rd) - 118.3%

Collingwood (2018) = 15-7 (2nd-4th) - 120.4%
 

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Prestigerrycomo said:
Well I am currently overseas and Collingwood always do well while I'm overseas.....

But I am back in Australia last 2 weeks of September :/
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The last time I was away for a Collingwood GF was 2010! :thumbsu:

P.S. I'm off to the USA in the morning!
 
Prestigerrycomo said:
I still felt awesome watching 2010 in Milan over a laptop. Hope you find a few supporters to watch it with
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Well as I've said elsewhere, I will be at "The Australian Bar and Restaurant" in New York. As it happens, my mate's son who is a huge Pies supporter is there now and we will meet to watch it. All research I've done suggests it's the p[lace to be in NY for Aussie Rules.
 
2002: Didn’t go, we lost
2003: Didn’t go, we lost
2010/1: Didn’t go, we drew
2010/2: Went, we won
2011: Didn’t go, we lost
2018 ...

 
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