List Mgmt. Operation - Get Dyson Sharp 2025.

[noobermensch]

I'm not sure if this is your actual 2025 draft thread or not, apologies if it aint.

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Sam Cumming is a midfield/forward prospect from South Australia with a versatile skill set. He's strong overhead for his size which allows him to present as a marking target in the forward 50 or around the ground, he cracks in at contest and stoppage and possesses finishing skills on the outside. A prospect that many will be keenly watching in 2025, he appears to have the attributes needed to have his name in the first round conversation.

 

[Mutineer]

I'm not sure if this is your actual 2025 draft thread or not, apologies if it aint.

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Sam Cumming is a midfield/forward prospect from South Australia with a versatile skill set. He's strong overhead for his size which allows him to present as a marking target in the forward 50 or around the ground, he cracks in at contest and stoppage and possesses finishing skills on the outside. A prospect that many will be keenly watching in 2025, he appears to have the attributes needed to have his name in the first round conversation.

Aidan Schubert?

 

[noobermensch]

Aidan Schubert?

I liked what I saw of him in the pre-champs warm up games, but that's the only footage I have. I'll need to rewatch to check if either of those performances are worthy of doing a vid for. I don't subscribe to SANFL now so the SANFL u18s stuff I don't have.

 

[1990crow]

I'm not sure if this is your actual 2025 draft thread or not, apologies if it aint.

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Sam Cumming is a midfield/forward prospect from South Australia with a versatile skill set. He's strong overhead for his size which allows him to present as a marking target in the forward 50 or around the ground, he cracks in at contest and stoppage and possesses finishing skills on the outside. A prospect that many will be keenly watching in 2025, he appears to have the attributes needed to have his name in the first round conversation.

Any relationship to Isaac?
Kick looks a bit dodgy.

 

[Crow till I die]

I liked what I saw of him in the pre-champs warm up games, but that's the only footage I have. I'll need to rewatch to check if either of those performances are worthy of doing a vid for. I don't subscribe to SANFL now so the SANFL u18s stuff I don't have.

Have a look at him in the qualifying final V Sturt SANFL mens this year. He (unfortunately for us sturt fans) was superb

 

[noobermensch]

Have a look at him in the qualifying final V Sturt SANFL mens this year. He (unfortunately for us sturt fans) was superb

I think we're on different wave lengths here. If you're referring to Dyson Sharp I already posted that game against Sturt earlier in the thread. The comment you're replying to was a response to a request for some Aiden Schubert, and I'm pretty sure he didn't play in that game.

 

[Crow till I die]

I think we're on different wave lengths here. If you're referring to Dyson Sharp I already posted that game against Sturt earlier in the thread. The comment you're replying to was a response to a request for some Aiden Schubert, and I'm pretty sure he didn't play in that game.

Ahh, that makes sense. Apologies

 

[Jarman3]

So.... hypothetically... if we get to the end of this season and Curtin still hasn't signed a contract extension, do we think about trading him out? Eg if West Coast have a top 4 pick, do we look to trade Curtin out while he's got a year left so we still have a bit of leverage, and use that pick on Sharp (assuming he ends up being meeting these expectations about his draft position)? Or do we back ourselves to get Curtin's signature in his 3rd season and risk missing out on Sharp AND losing Curtin?

 

[1990crow]

So.... hypothetically... if we get to the end of this season and Curtin still hasn't signed a contract extension, do we think about trading him out? Eg if West Coast have a top 4 pick, do we look to trade Curtin out while he's got a year left so we still have a bit of leverage, and use that pick on Sharp (assuming he ends up being meeting these expectations about his draft position)? Or do we back ourselves to get Curtin's signature in his 3rd season and risk missing out on Sharp AND losing Curtin?

Back him in. Hopefully our winning culture starts this year.

 

[spenze]

So.... hypothetically... if we get to the end of this season and Curtin still hasn't signed a contract extension, do we think about trading him out? Eg if West Coast have a top 4 pick, do we look to trade Curtin out while he's got a year left so we still have a bit of leverage, and use that pick on Sharp (assuming he ends up being meeting these expectations about his draft position)? Or do we back ourselves to get Curtin's signature in his 3rd season and risk missing out on Sharp AND losing Curtin?

I reckon the year of trading him was last year. I get where you are coming from as he would get us premium picks and I'd probably want two firsts with a second coming back for him but I'd back us in now to get him. I think he is going to be the player we put a big offer in front of to get his sig this year.

 

[Jarman3]

I reckon the year of trading him was last year. I get where you are coming from as he would get us premium picks and I'd probably want two firsts with a second coming back for him but I'd back us in now to get him. I think he is going to be the player we put a big offer in front of to get his sig this year.

I hope so, too. But what I'm getting at is if we DON'T get that signature this year, it may be time to have that conversation with him, because if he does want to go home I'm just thinking it may be better to do it this year if there's an A grade SA talent in the draft and we can trade Curtin for the pick to get that player. Vs a year later when West Coast may be higher up the ladder so their pick is not as good and there may not be as good a local talent as Sharp available.

I'm not thinking just about the "premium picks" he'd get us but also who would be available to get with those picks. Ie would effectively trading Curton for Sharp be considered breaking even? My preference is to keep Curtin, but if he's going (and if he hasn't signed by the end of this season, that has to start being considered an genuine possibility) then this year is probably better than next year.

Hopefully he'll start playing some regular AFL football this year, and not getting subbed on/off every week, and he'll be enjoying himself enough to want to stay.

 

[noobermensch]

Another example of Dyson Sharp's mature and effective inside game as he racked up an impressive eight clearances as a bottom ager against Vic Country. His spatial awareness in traffic is outstanding, allowing him to find creative angles to release teammates into space. He does a lot of subtle work at stoppage that can go unnoticed such as using his body to block or shepherd, creating space for his teammates.

 

[1990crow]

If the choice is between trading for Wanganeen-Milera and getting Sharp, I'm going Wanganeen-Milera.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

If the choice is between trading for Wanganeen-Milera and getting Sharp, I'm going Wanganeen-Milera.

I am a huge NWM fan but if the opportunity is there to get Sharp you take it

 

[dogs105]

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[Crow till I die]

If the choice is between trading for Wanganeen-Milera and getting Sharp, I'm going Wanganeen-Milera.

I am in the other camp, i think Sharpe is going to be a special midfielder and would do much to get him if we could

 

[adelaidecrows]

Will be interesting to see how it plays out. The odds of us having a top 10 pick is 50/50 in 2025. So we will have to almost sell the farm to get a draft pick high enough assuming he is rated as a top 3 selection. We dont have the players to trade either. So is getting sharp something we want to sell two years worth of first rounders for based on the expanded trading rules. I suspect there will be heavy competition and we all know Port will throw their hand in the ring too.

I think NWM is an option where we dont have to sell as many picks to get him.

 

[1990crow]

Will be interesting to see how it plays out. The odds of us having a top 10 pick is 50/50 in 2025. So we will have to almost sell the farm to get a draft pick high enough assuming he is rated as a top 3 selection. We dont have the players to trade either. So is getting sharp something we want to sell two years worth of first rounders for based on the expanded trading rules. I suspect there will be heavy competition and we all know Port will throw their hand in the ring too.

I think NWM is an option where we dont have to sell as many picks to get him.

I'd like to see Sharp go to Richmond, then target him in a couple of years.
Keep targeting the best SA talents, make clubs second guess drafting SA players.

 

[Cromulant]

I'd like to see Sharp go to Richmond, then target him in a couple of years.
Keep targeting the best SA talents, make clubs second guess drafting SA players.

Why would they ??

Like us with interstate kids, they'll back themselves in to keep them.

Especially a big club like Richmond.

 

[1990crow]

Why would they ??

Like us with interstate kids, they'll back themselves in to keep them.

Especially a big club like Richmond.

If us or Port keep bringing back the best SA talents every single year there will come a time when taking the player needs to consider the high probability of defection.

Same as us and Vic Metro kids.

 

[Cromulant]

If us or Port keep bringing back the best SA talents every single year there will come a time when taking the player needs to consider the high probability of defection.

Same as us and Vic Metro kids.

I get your point, but there hasnt been too many big Vic clubs who've lost SA talent over the years. Personally I think what weve done by pinching the best from the other interstate clubs is the way to go.

Thats not to say we don't look at the Vic based guys like we did with Redman, Petty etc, but its not as easy.

 

[1990crow]

I get your point, but there hasnt been too many big Vic clubs who've lost SA talent over the years. Personally I think what weve done by pinching the best from the other interstate clubs is the way to go.

Thats not to say we don't look at the Vic based guys like we did with Redman, Petty etc, but its not as easy.

Lukosius, Rankine, Rozee, Day, JHF, Philipou, Wanganeen-Milera, Draper

Not been that many high draft pick SA players over 7 years.
5 of 8 on SA club lists.
Get NWM and that's 6.
Philipou every chance to come home at some point you'd think.

Not suggesting it will change anything if the player is ultimately better than the Victorian alternative at the selection, but same as us if it's borderline it'll be a risk factor clubs will have to consider which they probably didn't 15 years ago.

I think cost of living in Melbourne is a bigger factor than it's ever been.

 

[El Doederino]

Best outcome is if other kids start to rise and clubs lose interest in Sharp. Don't we have an NGA next year? If so, even if we end up with a first round pick over 10, by packaging that up with a first rounder next year, we might get close enough to get him.

 

[FR0GGY]

Best outcome is if other kids start to rise and clubs lose interest in Sharp. Don't we have an NGA next year? If so, even if we end up with a first round pick over 10, by packaging that up with a first rounder next year, we might get close enough to get him.

Bear outcome is if he makes it known he will get severely homesick and wouldn’t survive interstate

 

[adelaidecrows]

If us or Port keep bringing back the best SA talents every single year there will come a time when taking the player needs to consider the high probability of defection.

Same as us and Vic Metro kids.

I think you will be surprised how absolute little it plays a part. Its a professional sport and draftees need to be mentally prepared to go anywhere. I will never knock a club for backing themselves in unless the club has an out, like its a 50% choice, like for like situation or in the case of JHF when Adelaide offered NM a godfather offer and they not only turned it down, it was revealed they didnt even speak to JHF until almost draft day. But a club should 100% always take the best player available to them for the role they are looking for. From there its up to the clubs to keep them. If we all start operating in fear, then we will get a state of origin situation where everyone just sticks to their home state. Which is pathetic.