Opposition Supporters say the darndest things.

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The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.

What a sad sad person. Nearly 5 years ago.
 
Since it’s a subscription only link I can’t read, I’m interested in what the four goals were. Since I subscribe to the time continuity paradox ( instead of the Australian) that once one event changes all other events following it cease to exist in that reality, I really don’t give a s**t. Dogs were better than Sydney. Should have won by more.


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The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.



Want a tissue, snookums?

About time you Sydney whiners got over it and accepted you weren’t the better team.
 

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The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.

If we did this on your board we’d likely be perma banned lol.
 
The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.


The AFL gifted the Swans a flag in 2005 when the tribunal let Barry Hall off a striking charge incurred in the 2005 Preliminary Final.

Even Barry knew it was a crock:




Swans won the GF by 4 points. Couldn't have done it without Baz.


Want to give back that one back?
 
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The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.


Cry some more bitch
 
The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.

You know there were bad decisions in the grand final that went against the dogs too, Morris being done for holding the ball while franklin had the ball, the hannebury one shouldn't even be a free kick at no point does he even get him below the knee , better team on the day easily won its not like we only won by a goal haha better teams win regardless of umpires
 

Doesnt say anything about costing the Swans four goals, it was four frees that were missed, that doesn’t guarantee goals, and your coach stated we were the better team on the day.


Said it hundreds of times and will say it again.

The Wood on Hannebery one isn’t a free kick. The contact was not below the knees, and it wasn’t from sliding.

The crying over the Morris/Papley one is even worse. Apparently Papley should be rewarded with a free kick for being second to the ball and beaten by a more desperate player.

Sydney’s forward line didn’t do a thing all game. Tippett? Rohan? Papley? One goal from Rohan in the 2nd, aside from that the three of them did nothing.

Their midfield? Kennedy was absolutely fantastic, but the others? Jack? Parker? Hannebery? Hardly offered anything.

Grundy and Rampe were good in their backline, but they had to be. If they weren’t, theyd have lost by even more.

We had Boyd, Picken, Johannisen, Dickson, all having excellent games, Morris, Bontempelli, Macrae supporting them, plus better individual efforts all game from Biggs, Daniel, Smith.

So I repeat once again: get over it Sydney, you were not the better team.
 
Also funny that a Swans fan stalks our board waiting for the time to comment on the GF.

In that poster’s defence, this is essentially a “Dumb things opposition supporters say” thread. They’re just doing us a favour by having their say here directly, rather than relying on one of us lurking on their boards. Imagine a future where all opposition idiocy is restricted to this thread, and this thread alone!
 

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I love that article. "Costing the Swans four goals" - clearly demonstrating a complete lack of understanding towards how the sport actually works, yet delusional Swans fans hang their hats on it.

So convenient that we won by just under 4 goals too, so it was clearly the reason they lost!
 
I love that article. "Costing the Swans four goals" - clearly demonstrating a complete lack of understanding towards how the sport actually works, yet delusional Swans fans hang their hats on it.

So convenient that we won by just under 4 goals too, so it was clearly the reason they lost!
Was it four goals we got from frees in front of goal (I’ll concede the Smith free and goal), or was it four frees in front of goal that the Swans didn’t get but deserved? They’ve been asked and asked to give specific details that would back up their claims but they never give them.
 
The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.


Absolute RUBBISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was 4 free kicks missed for the Swans and 3 free kicks missed for the Bulldogs.

But feel free to continue with the salt ad infinitum - it just continues to remind the world that the 2016 AFL Premiership was WON by the Western Bulldogs.

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The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.


If you actually believe that then I feel genuine sympathy towards you. Unfortunately that's not how the universe works. There's no magical formula or reality simulator which can tell you exactly how much the score would have changed if certain calls were or weren't made. There is of course Laplace's demon, which is a theory that if you know the direction, velocity etc. of every particle in the universe then you could predict the future with 100% accuracy. But that is of course only theoretical as in practice you could never really know the position and movement of every particle on the universe. As an aside there is a pretty good TV series called Devs which deals with this concept. But even if we had some kind of quantum computer that could act as Laplace's demon, what about quantum indeterminacy? How can we account for the randomness that seems to occur at the quantum scale when predicting what would have happened had an umpiring call been different?
 
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If you actually believe that then I feel genuine sympathy towards you. Unfortunately that's now how the universe works. There's no magical formula or reality simulator which can tell you exactly how much the score would have changed if certain calls were or weren't made. There is of course Laplace's demon, which is a theory that if you know the direction, velocity etc. of every particle in the universe then you could predict the future with 100% accuracy. But that is of course only theoretical as in practice you could never really know the position and movement of every particle on the universe. As an aside there is a pretty good TV series called Devs which deals with this concept. But even if we had some kind of quantum computer that could act as Laplace's demon, what about quantum indeterminacy? How can we account for the randomness that seems to occur at the quantum scale when predicting what would have happened had an umpiring call been different?

Nerd. I was happy to go with the Flashpoint Paradox and you bring in Laplace’s Demon! Well played!


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We are not umpire bashers at The Australian. Not even close.
But please, can we all get a perceived fair go tomorrow at the MCG from the men wearing light blue.

Field umpires Matt Stevic, Simon Meredith and Shaun Ryan, you owe us one. We’re not saying the Western Bulldogs weren’t deserved winners last year, but they did get the rub of the green.

Overall, the Dogs received 20 free kicks to the Swans’ eight. The differential of 12 was the biggest in a grand final since the three-umpire system was introduced in 1994.

The AFL review didn’t deem last year’s umpiring performance to be poor, but it was the view of the league that it was beneath the level expected, especially considering the highly-experienced and more than capable trio who officiated — Stevic, Meredith and Scott Jeffery.

The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.

Jeffery was umpiring his first grand final after more than 300 games’ experience, while Stevic and Meredith were each in their fourth grand finals.

Many contentious decisions robbed the Swans, who were hurt by a number of wrong calls, especially on the sliding/contact below the knees rule.

Stevic (No 9) retains his gig after 330 games. Meredith (No 21) also keeps his ranking after 314 games. Ryan (No 25) is no newcomer, having previously umpired five grand finals, but none since 2011. Each will earn about $20,000 for their day’s work.

Ryan, a barrister, retired at the end of 2011, but returned to the AFL senior list in 2015. He said this week he took some convincing to rejoin from umpires’ coach Hayden Kennedy.

“I was pretty happily retired and I hadn’t really thought about coming back to be honest,” Ryan said.

Stevic is a teacher, while Meredith lists his occupation as an IT consultant.

The trio will be under closer than usual scrutiny after last year’s below-par performances.

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We are not umpire bashers at The Australian. Not even close.
But please, can we all get a perceived fair go tomorrow at the MCG from the men wearing light blue.

Field umpires Matt Stevic, Simon Meredith and Shaun Ryan, you owe us one. We’re not saying the Western Bulldogs weren’t deserved winners last year, but they did get the rub of the green.

Overall, the Dogs received 20 free kicks to the Swans’ eight. The differential of 12 was the biggest in a grand final since the three-umpire system was introduced in 1994.

The AFL review didn’t deem last year’s umpiring performance to be poor, but it was the view of the league that it was beneath the level expected, especially considering the highly-experienced and more than capable trio who officiated — Stevic, Meredith and Scott Jeffery.

The league were embarrassed to the point that then-acting AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans rang Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland on the Tuesday after the match to apologise for the umpires costing the Swans four goals. The winning margin blew out late to 22 points after the Bulldogs kicked the final two goals in time on of the final quarter.

Jeffery was umpiring his first grand final after more than 300 games’ experience, while Stevic and Meredith were each in their fourth grand finals.

Many contentious decisions robbed the Swans, who were hurt by a number of wrong calls, especially on the sliding/contact below the knees rule.

Stevic (No 9) retains his gig after 330 games. Meredith (No 21) also keeps his ranking after 314 games. Ryan (No 25) is no newcomer, having previously umpired five grand finals, but none since 2011. Each will earn about $20,000 for their day’s work.

Ryan, a barrister, retired at the end of 2011, but returned to the AFL senior list in 2015. He said this week he took some convincing to rejoin from umpires’ coach Hayden Kennedy.

“I was pretty happily retired and I hadn’t really thought about coming back to be honest,” Ryan said.

Stevic is a teacher, while Meredith lists his occupation as an IT consultant.

The trio will be under closer than usual scrutiny after last year’s below-par performances.

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Looks like a few The Australian journos had plenty on the Swans...
 
Looks like a few The Australian journos had plenty on the Swans...
Is there actually anyone who takes what gets printed in Rupert's little pet newspaper project seriously?
 
If you actually believe that then I feel genuine sympathy towards you. Unfortunately that's now how the universe works. There's no magical formula or reality simulator which can tell you exactly how much the score would have changed if certain calls were or weren't made. There is of course Laplace's demon, which is a theory that if you know the direction, velocity etc. of every particle in the universe then you could predict the future with 100% accuracy. But that is of course only theoretical as in practice you could never really know the position and movement of every particle on the universe. As an aside there is a pretty good TV series called Devs which deals with this concept. But even if we had some kind of quantum computer that could act as Laplace's demon, what about quantum indeterminacy? How can we account for the randomness that seems to occur at the quantum scale when predicting what would have happened had an umpiring call been different?
*en get him Scrag
 

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