Our defence

[Tas]

Actually percentage is not misleading. Or if it is, you're going to need to state a better case than that. It takes account of both points scored and points conceded. Yet you've attempted to dismiss it by only considering points scored.

So we scored few goals in low scoring games; that's hardly unusual.

Plus your sample is also rather unbalanced. There's just as good a chance we'll meet Sydney come finals time. We scored 18 goals against them.

I think Sydney and us will be around early, but both will more than likely make an early exit. The comparison are of teams that I think are in with a chance at the premiership, I do not rate either our chances, Sydney I still have doubts will last much longer than us. The teams that will most likely threaten you this year are the ones I have mentioned.

It is not a matter of lack of respect, it is a matter of being realistic, I have a lot of respect for Adelaide, I have for a long time. You guys are just extremely paranoid of any comments that are not flattering.

I just think if you are going to have finals success you will need to score more than 8 goals against the top teams, is that a bad assumption?

Sydney, like North and Adealaide have racked up a lot of what I call cheap wins. Wins at home, wins against lesser opposition, wins against depeleted lineups. I am just realistic.

We have our own problems, our main area is more in restricting the better opposition than scoring. We have kicked 17 goals against Brisbane, 15 against Saints, 14 against Eagles, 11 against Melbourne and 8 against the Geelong. We can generally score, it is our defensive efforts where we have to improve on.

If you are content with a high home and away percentage or racking up a lot of wins against sides that are not going to be in the last few weeks of the finals then that is your choice. But the bar is set higher than that. I think Adelaide can improve to be successful this year, I have just identified where the main problem lies, that is the ability to score goals against the better sides.

That has to improve if the Crows are going to be successful this year.

 

[Tas]

Oh dear, has poor Tas run off so soon?

I spend too much time on BF as it is. RL gets in the way.

 

[Tas]

Actually, I'd also think we'd be likely to face yourselves and Sydney in the finals as well.

Maybe in the first week, unlikely after that. Are you going to lose to us or Sydney at AAMI in a final? I doubt it.

Odd, why would you leave them out but add Brisbane, who are more tenuous in position than yourselves or Sydney? Oh wait, because you like to run rubbis arguments like the 'large amount of shocking last quarters' the Crows have had...

Brisbane has beaten four of the top 6 sides, the only team they haven't beaten in the 8 are the eagles or sides that are not likely to be there very long (Sydney i think and us I believe). I could have realistically left St Kilda and Melbourne out of the equation if I was interested in making the Crows look bad, but those two sides have a decent chance if they can field a decent side and are in some form.

Oh...hmmm...and what if I was to swap Richmond, who actually ARE in the 8, and Brisbane? I won't, because I don't want to embarrass you or expose your pathetic argument any further.

Richmond are living on borrowed time, another side that has beaten anyone of note? I am talking about teams you have to seriously contend against to win a premiership and you are talking about Sydney, Richmond and us? Seriously...

Funny how you ignore that our games against West Coast, Geelong and Brisbane all could easily have gone our way, and we were ahead of Melbourne for all but half a quarter essentially.

I'm not talking about the end result. I am talking about the number of goals you kick. If you have a solid defense and you kick a decent number of goals you are a good chance to beat anyone. If you kick 8 goals you will struggle to get over the line, even with a good defense. It is extremely difficult to win when you kick a low score.

But don't let REALITY get in the way of your bagging, Tas. Shall we start on your team losing 5 in a row perhaps? No we won't, because I'm not as petty as you.

How did I bag the Crows? By saying you will need to kick more goals to beat the good sides with any confidence? Is this really a new concept in SA? Why are some of the Crows supporters so precious?

You can talk all you like about North, you will probably have me agreeing on most of the negatives you can think about because I am not delusional when it comes where my side needs to improve to become better.

Don't ever come on our board again unless you've got valid facts, tool.

Seriously, are personal insults necessary? Did I really hurt your feelings that much? Very sad and pathetic.

 

[ant]

I think Sydney and us will be around early, but both will more than likely make an early exit. The comparison are of teams that I think are in with a chance at the premiership, I do not rate either our chances, Sydney I still have doubts will last much longer than us. The teams that will most likely threaten you this year are the ones I have mentioned.

It is not a matter of lack of respect, it is a matter of being realistic, I have a lot of respect for Adelaide, I have for a long time. You guys are just extremely paranoid of any comments that are not flattering.

I just think if you are going to have finals success you will need to score more than 8 goals against the top teams, is that a bad assumption?

Sydney, like North and Adealaide have racked up a lot of what I call cheap wins. Wins at home, wins against lesser opposition, wins against depeleted lineups. I am just realistic.

We have our own problems, our main area is more in restricting the better opposition than scoring. We have kicked 17 goals against Brisbane, 15 against Saints, 14 against Eagles, 11 against Melbourne and 8 against the Geelong. We can generally score, it is our defensive efforts where we have to improve on.

If you are content with a high home and away percentage or racking up a lot of wins against sides that are not going to be in the last few weeks of the finals then that is your choice. But the bar is set higher than that. I think Adelaide can improve to be successful this year, I have just identified where the main problem lies, that is the ability to score goals against the better sides.

That has to improve if the Crows are going to be successful this year.

I think part of what Dave was saying though, was that those games you highlighted were relatively low-scoring ones.

Sure, we need to kick more goals, but we're not letting that many through, and in tight, low-scoring games against quality opposition, all we need to do is kick more than whatever side we're facing.

We failed to do that against the Eagles, Dees, Cats and Brisbane, but taking into account the number of goals kicked in the match, we're not far off.

 

[DaveW]

If you're going to exclude higher placed teams on the basis that they won't be serious finals contenders, then drop Melbourne immediately.

The Demons are in shocking form and have a nightmare run home. I can't see them finishing top four, and I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the finals altogether.

Sydney, on the other hand, are a genuine top four chance.

 

[just maybe]

If you're going to exclude higher placed teams on the basis that they won't be serious finals contenders, then drop Melbourne immediately.

The Demons are in shocking form and have a nightmare run home. I can't see them finishing top four, and I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the finals altogether.

Sydney, on the other hand, are a genuine top four chance.

And write off the Saints at your peril.

 

[Mad Dog]

Channel 9 put his stat comparison up this year versus last year and theyre about the same, even considering his reduced gametime.

Would be very very surprised if he's not in the AA side again this year

Well I don't doubt you're right.....but I am quite surprised.

Maybe it's the more even contribution from the side this year that creates the impression that Roo isn't as dominant this year....

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Well I don't doubt you're right.....but I am quite surprised.

Maybe it's the more even contribution from the side this year that creates the impression that Roo isn't as dominant this year....

I think your right, in an average side his performances the last 2 years have stood out.

In a more even team performance he has been as consistent but not as noticable - probably the reason we're second not 13th