Pick 6

[Matt_352]

On the topic of Lever as many have already raised here, I've heard a rumour that he is headed to the Pies for pick 6.

Just pick 6? Ok

 

[Johno9911]

Doubt it unless they get desperate for picks to lock in a deal for Kelly.

With Dusty set to stay they may be forced to do that to insure they get him.

 

[mike123]

On the topic of Lever as many have already raised here, I've heard a rumour that he is headed to the Pies for pick 6.

I hope it's not true

 

[loki04]

Coffield is definitely one I think that will surprise a few. I would like to take him if we got a KPP sorted.

IMO he is a better option then Naughton.

 

[wicksy]

How tall is Lever? Langdon was great in the 2nd half of the year once he built fitness and confidence... Do we need Lever when we have Langdon? Go to the draft....lock pick 6...
Thank me later...

194... Same height as Rance and 1cm shorter than Talia.
I was surprised. I didn't think he had the size to play KP but he definitely does.

Langdon is 189... Not even close.

 

[Apex36]

On the topic of Lever as many have already raised here, I've heard a rumour that he is headed to the Pies for pick 6.

I would be comfortable with that, although I'm not convinced he the type we need.

 

[Apex36]

194... Same height as Rance and 1cm shorter than Talia.
I was surprised. I didn't think he had the size to play KP but he definitely does.

Langdon is 189... Not even close.

Adelaide FC bio has him at 195. Never trust Wikipedia.

 

[wicksy]

Adelaide FC bio has him at 195. Never trust Wikipedia.

I did see both and opted for the lesser given clubs often bump up stats.

 

[Roverjg]

You'll also find that their excessive successful drafting was done before Wrights time. Drafting a new core group of players is a new challenge for Wright. It will be interesting to see if he can actually do it.

Here is an article by Michael Warner, in 2015 about Hawthorn's Recruiting over the previous 10 year period.

CYRIL Rioli’s 3km time-trial at the Australian Institute of Sport in Canberra was an unmitigated disaster. It was the 2007 AFL draft camp and remembered to this day as the worst ever seen by club talent scouts. “He came dead last — and by a long way,” former Hawthorn list boss Chris Pelchen recalled. “I don’t think he’d run 3km in quite a long time — his head was wobbling from side to side by the end like he was going to pass out.

“It certainly raised the eyebrows of a lot of recruiters. Everybody knew how talented he was, but his fitness was so poor — even coming into what he knew was such a critical testing period being the draft combine — they didn’t feel he’d got himself in shape. “There was always the concern that we were going to see an unfulfilled talent.”

On draft day a month later, Hawthorn was still unsure if Rioli was a risk worth taking. As pick 12 came around, the Hawks requested extra minutes to make the decision. “We were actually debating between him and Alex Rance when we took that pick,” Pelchen said. “But we clearly needed a crumbing forward and believed he was the best one. “As time has gone on people have seen just how exceptional he is. It’s a credit to Cyril and the people at Hawthorn who got him.”

Hawthorn’s triple premiership triumph is the culmination of pinpoint drafting and shrewd recruiting of established talent. Few would know the Hawks had another crack at Rance at the end of 2009, but opted instead for North Melbourne’s Josh Gibson. “We met with two players in 2009 with a view to getting a key backman into our club and the two players were Josh Gibson and Alex Rance,” Pelchen said. “We’d looked at Alex two years previously and he was struggling at Richmond.” Rance, his manager Tom Petroro, Pelchen and Hawthorn football director Jason Dunstall met at Dunstall’s house. “Ultimately, we went with Josh Gibson, and I don’t think either decision would have been wrong,” Pelchen said.

Brian Lake, Shaun Burgoyne, David Hale, Jack Gunston, Ben McEvoy, James Frawley and Gibson were all poached from rival clubs to suit specific needs.
The hits at the draft table kept coming: Jarryd Roughead, Jordan Lewis, Grant Birchall, Liam Shiels, Isaac Smith, Brad Hill, Taylor Duryea and Lance Franklin.

Luke Breust was a rookie out of country NSW and Paul Puopolo a SANFL scrubber nobody wanted.

The foundations for Hawthorn greatness were laid 14 years ago. Fremantle traded the No.1 pick in the national draft to Hawthorn for Trent Croad and Luke McPharlin. Hawthorn recruiting manager John Turnbull snared a kid from Colac called Luke Hodge and, at selection 36, a draft reject from Box Hill named Sam Mitchell. Hodge was picked ahead of Chris Judd and Luke Ball in the 2001 “superdraft”. “I said to John, ‘You’ve seen them play the most, so make a call’. He came back and said, ‘It’s Luke Hodge’,” then Hawks coach Peter Schwab said. “I just think John felt he was potentially going to be a better player. “There was a little bit of doubt about Chris’s shoulders at the time ... which has since proven to be very wrong. “I’m not saying he (Luke) is a better player than Chris, but he certainly stands alongside him.”

Mitchell was overlooked by every AFL club in the 2000 draft. “Sammy was always thought of as being a bit too small and a bit too slow,” Schwab said. “He came down to Box Hill and was just a kid who could play any level. He just kept getting the footy 35 times in the Box Hill seconds and then came up to the Box Hill firsts and did the same thing. “I’m so glad (we picked him). He’s a phenomenal player and probably could have won the Norm Smith on Saturday and a couple of Brownlows. “He’s one of the all-time great Hawthorn players, like Hodgey is.”

Schwab stepped down in 2004 and was replaced the next year by Alastair Clarkson. Clarkson, Pelchen, list boss Graham Wright and recruiters Gary Buckenara and Geoff Morris built a legendary list. “I didn’t expect Hawthorn to have the era they have,” Schwab admitted. “I didn’t expect them to be that good for so long. “Even in Clarko’s first year ... the team took a while to gel. They probably won one ahead of time in 2008, which was a great effort, and they’ve been totally dominant for the last four or five years — and it looks like continuing. “You’ve got to have the talent, and Hawthorn have been able to build on what they had as a base and free agency has allowed them to top up very nicely.”

The historic three-peat has not been without its adversity. The first flag against Fremantle was won with the spectre of Franklin’s contract impasse hanging over the club. Last year’s victory against Sydney came after Clarkson was struck by a serious illness and key players were injured. This year skipper Hodge was busted drink-driving, assistant coach Brendon Bolton left for the senior job at Carlton and assistant coach Brett Ratten’s son Cooper was killed in a car crash. Pelchen says after three flags and four Grand Finals in a row, the Hawks are still in the premiership window. “I don’t think any club expects to win three in a row, that expectation was never there,” Pelchen said. “But we had planned and planned extensively and we believed that our best years would be 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015.

“Everything in terms of the demographic that we set up and the way we tried to complement it with experienced players and positional types was based on being strong over that period, and it has transpired that way. “I don’t want that to sound smug, but that is certainly what the club planned.”

 

[Soups]

IMO he is a better option then Naughton.

I wouldn't be annoyed if they did take him.

 

[Mark W]

Here is an article by Michael Warner, in 2015 about Hawthorn's Recruiting over the previous 10 year period.

CYRIL Rioli’s 3km time-trial at the Australian Institute of Sport in Canberra was an unmitigated disaster. It was the 2007 AFL draft camp and remembered to this day as the worst ever seen by club talent scouts. “He came dead last — and by a long way,” former Hawthorn list boss Chris Pelchen recalled. “I don’t think he’d run 3km in quite a long time — his head was wobbling from side to side by the end like he was going to pass out.

“It certainly raised the eyebrows of a lot of recruiters. Everybody knew how talented he was, but his fitness was so poor — even coming into what he knew was such a critical testing period being the draft combine — they didn’t feel he’d got himself in shape. “There was always the concern that we were going to see an unfulfilled talent.”

some hope for Kirbs then....